Thomas Hulse, of Marbery & Astley, Esq.

Not the father of Rev. John Howse, of Eastwell

Biography

Extracted from https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Howse-6

Thomas Hulse was born before 1533 [one of his children by his wife Alice Hinton was buried in December 1546[1]]. Thomas was probably born in Norbury, Cheshire, England, where his family had lived since Edward III was king of England.[2]

Thomas was the oldest son and heir of Philip Hulse of Norbury son of Thomas, and his wife, Margaret, the daughter of Robert Corbett of Hatherton, esq.[2]

Thomas married Alice the daughter and coheir of Gefferie/Gruffith/Gryffith Hinton of Hinton co Salop,[3] [4] and his wife, Margaret, the daughter of John Dodd de Clorley (Cloverley)[5] and his first wife Elizabeth Egerton.[6] There was an an indenture agreed to by the parties involved in October 1537.

Thomas and Alice had children:

1. John Hulse of Norbury married Alice, daughter to Lloyd;[3] [4]
2. Robert;[4]
3. George,[3] [4] baptized 19 November 1548 at Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England.[7]
4. Thomas;[3] [4]
5. Margery married David Merry;[3] [4]
6. Margrett;[3] [4] and
7. Amy,[3] [4] baptised 10 May 1553 at Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England.[8]
8. Gryffyth buried 14 Dec 1546, at Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England,[1]
9. Richard who was buried 8 Mar 1547 at Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England.[9]
10. Marie baptised 7 November 1551 at Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England.[10]

His wife Alice was buried on 6 February 1554 Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England.[11]

After Alice's death, Thomas married a second wife, Margaret, the daughter of Thomas Cotton of Whitchurch, with whom he had four children.[3] [4]

1. Hugh Hulse of Norbury, son and heir;[2]
2. Robert,[2] christened on 1 Sep 1559 at Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England[12]
3. Isabell;[2] and
4. Eleanor.[2]

Thomas died in 1588,[4] and was buried at Marbury[2] on 19 August.[13]

Mistaken Identity

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Howse-6

Thomas Hulse, said to be born about 1545 in Moxbury, and buried in 1580 in Kent, England, who was the husband of Alice Hinton, and father of John Hulse ho married Alice Lloyd, is sometimes claimed to be the father of Rev John House who was the rector of Eastwell, Kent, from 17 May, 1601 until his death in 1630.[15]

There is no evidence at this time to support a relationship between the Hulses of Norbury, Cheshire, and Rev Thomas House or Howse of Kent. See this website for a discussion about this:

http://web.pdx.edu/~davide/gene/Howse_John.htm.

It is commonly asserted that John Howse was born at Eastwell in County Kent and was the son of Thomas and Alice Hinton Howse. Although, this could be correct, there does not seem to be any documentary evidence in support of such a presumption. After 1603, he was, indeed, the rector of the parish church at Eastwell (St. Mary's), but it may be reasonably supposed that like many clergymen of local parishes, he had originated somewhere else. Accordingly, it is reported that John Howse was educated at Cambridge University, but details of his matriculation and subsequent graduation are unknown. Moreover, it may be reasonably inferred that if he was rector at Eastwell, he had likely served previously as a lower ranking clergyman, e.g., a curate, in some other parish, which remains unknown. In support of this presumption, it appears that he had married and had several children prior to his service at Eastwell. Therefore, as a matter of chronology one may reasonably suppose that John Howse was born, perhaps, about 1570 and that he attended university in the late 1580's. Within this context, it has also been asserted without significant substantiation that John Howse and Alice Lloyd married August 30, 1593, at Lavenham in County Suffolk. Again, no documentary source affirming this date or his wife's identity is known (although, her given name as "Alice" can be established from John's will). Even so, some researchers have associated Rev. John Howse with a minor noble family of the same name having estates at Besthorpe near Attleborough and Morningthorpe Manor near Long Stratton in County Norfolk.3 Indeed, this geography would be favorable in support of his education at Cambridge, his marriage in nearby Suffolk, and his probable Puritan sympathies, since the general region of East Anglia was a stronghold of Puritan sentiment. Moreover, due to the custom of primogenture it was common for younger sons of country gentlemen to enter the service of the Church, since they did not inherit land. Nevertheless, although these coincidences are suggestive, they remain entirely unsubstantiated and the origin of John Howse and his wife must be properly regarded as unknown.

Marriage

https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~dearbornboutwell/genealogy/fam8964....

FILE - [no title] - ref. 2028/1/2/27 - date: 1537Contents8 November 29 Henry VIII (1537)Marked S "Deed relating to the Marriage of Thomas Hulse and Alice Hinton Dot, 8 Novr 29 Henry 8o""Mariage of Hulse with Hynton" "Hulse"William Hieghfeld gentleman, Henry Typpyng chaplain, John Beryngton and Robert Typpyng yomen, John Dod of Clorley esq and Hugh Hulse gentleman, sent greeting. Thomas Huls of Knuttesforde esq in consideration of a marriage to be celebrated between Thomas Huls son and heir of Philipp Huls son and heir of the same Thomas Huls and Alice Hynton daughter of Gruffith Hynton esq and in performance of an agreement, by indentures tripartit 1 October 29 Henry VIII(1) Thomas Huls(2)Philipp Huls(3) Gruffith HyntonBy indenture dated 13 October in the said year demised and granted to them all his manors, messuages, burgages, lands etc in the townships and hamlets of Knuttesforde, Bryffrd et, Merbury and Norbury in the County of Chester, in Whitchurch co Salop, and in the City of London or elsewhere within the kingdom of England and Wales (except these messuages etc now in jointure of Margery wife of the said Philip Huls) with the intention and under the condition that they or their successors within quarter of a year from the date of this deed, by their deed indented tripartite (of which one part should be kept by Thomas Huls, another part by Elizabeth Huls, Blanche Huls and Alice Huls daughters of the same Thomas, and the third part by Gruffith Hynton) at the instance of Thomas Huls or of the said Elizabeth, Blanche and Alice, demise to Thomas a certain yearly rent of £4 received yearly from the issues of a tenement in the City of London now occupied by Ambrose Willys, to hold to him, Thomas, for his life, and after his death to his daughters, to each one of them 20 marks for separate marriage portions (as specified in the deed)The trustees at the instance of Thomas Huls and according to the intent of the deed, demise to him a yearly rent of £4 as above for his life; after his death each of his daughters to receive 20 marks. If any daughter die before marriage, then her portion is to lapse. If the £4 is in arrears in part [...] whole after the death of Thomas Huls for 40 days after any day of payment, the daughters may distrain for arrears and expenses.The trustees put Thomas Huls into possession of the rent by payment of 14Signatures of trustees

Note: "29", means 29th year of Henry VIII. Since Henry VIII began his reign 22 April 1509, that translates to 1537.

Family of Phillip Hulse of Merbury & Margery Corbett

References

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   9. "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3KS-9TL : accessed 16 Jul 2014), Ric Hulse, 08 Mar 1547, Burial; citing item 12, , Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2093579.
   10. "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3KS-CJH : accessed 16 Jul 2014), Marie Hulse, 07 Nov 1551, Christening; citing item 12, , Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2093579.
   11. "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3KS-ZTP : accessed 16 Jul 2014), Alice Hulse, 06 Feb 1554, Burial; citing item 12, , Marbury (near Crewe), Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2093579.
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   14. http://www.house-empire.com/personpage.lasso?token.cardid=1940
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