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Thomas Monins, Esq.

Also Known As: "Moninges"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Kent, England
Death: after 1574
Kent, England
Immediate Family:

Son of John Monins and Margery Monins
Husband of Elizabeth Monins and Alice Monins
Father of Peyton Monins; Edward Monins; Mary Maycott and Steven Monins

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About Thomas Monins, Esq.

John Monyns, Lieut, of Dover Castle, temp. Henry VIII. (2nd son of John Monyns, of Swanton, and younger brother of Edward Monyns, Esq. of Waldershare, ancestor of the extinct Baronets, Monyns, of Waldershare (see Burke's Extinct Baronetage), m. Jane, dau. and co-heiress of Thomas Alde, of Chequer, Kent, and has issue, two sons and four daus. John Monyns d. in 1554, and possessed the advowson of the Church of Charlton, near Dover, which has remained to his descen- dants ever since. He devised his lands in the parish of St. Margarets, at Cliffe, to his son and heir,

THOMAS MONYNS, of Dover, who was twice married, 1st, Elizabeth, dau. of Sir John Peyton, Knt. (by whom he had Edward, who d. without issue, and a dau., Peyton, who m. John Toke, Esq. of Bere, Kent), and 2ndly, Alice, dau. of William Cryspe, Esq., Lieut, of Dover Castle, by whom he had Stephen, and several other sons, who d. without issue, and three daus., Mary, m. Sir Cavilero Maycot, Knt.; Marion, m. 1st, Coldwell Rogers, and 2ndly, Sir Christopher Mann, Knt. ; and Frances, m. Leonard Sprecklyn, Esq. of St. Dunstans, near Canterbury. The eldest son,

Stephen Monyns, of Dover, m. Mary, dau. of Sir Charles Hales, of Thannington, Knt., by whom he had issue several sons and daus.

Bernard Burke. A genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry of Great Britain & Ireland (Volume 2)

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From the Genealogy Page of John Blythe Dobson

"The Exherst Family"

http://library.uwinnipeg.ca/people/dobson/genealogy/ff/Exherst.cfm

Last revised 15 December 2011

http://library.uwinnipeg.ca/people/dobson/genealogy/ff/Exherst.cfm

Thomas Monins, of Barton, in the parish of Canterbury, and of Swanton, in the parish of Lydden, near Dover, Kent, son of John Monins and Margaret/Marjorie Aldy, was b. say 1537, and was still alive in 1574. He m. (1) probably in the 1560s, Elizabeth Peyton, who d. considerably before 1574, sister of Sir Thomas Peyton, ancestor of the baronets Peyton, and daughter of Sir John Peyton, lord of the manors of Calthorpe in Burnham St. Martins, and of Knolton, by the latter’s wife Dorothy, daughter of Sir John Tindall.[65] He m. (2) well before 1574, Alice Crispe, living 1574, said to have been a daughter of William Crispe, lieutenant of Dover Castle, by the latter’s first wife, Mary, daughter of Avery Randolf, of Baddlesmere.[66] 
   The sixteenth-century pedigree already cited in relation to Thomas’ father gives the following account of him: Thomas Mongynges, of Barton near Dover … Esquire, sonne and heire to John, maried to his firste wyfe Elizabeth, daughter of John Peyton, of Knowlton in the said Countie [i.e. Kent], Esquire, and by her had yssue: Edwarde his eldest sonne; Peyton, a daughter, married to George Toke of Bere in the said Countie, Esquire. After the said Thomas maried to his second wyfe, Alys, daughter of William Cryspe, leife tenante [i.e. lieutenant] of the Castell of Dover in the said Countie, Esquire, and had yssue: William, John, and Ryce Monynges, dyed all three sans yssue; Stephen, Thomas, and John Monynges, nowe lyvinge; Marye maried to Cavelers Maycott, of Reculver in the said Countie, gent., and Marye the yonger, Francis, and Anne.[67]

“Thomas Monninges” signs as the informant for the Moninges pedigree in the 1574 Visitation of Kent, which gives his arms as:

Quarterly of five:

1. gules three crescents or [for Monins]

2. gules, crusily a cross humetty argent [unidentified]

3. ermine, on a chief gules three sinister hands, couped or [in the 1530-31 Visitation cited below the tincture of the sinister hands is given as argent, and this is surely the same as ermine, on a chief gules three sinister hands, couped and appaumés argent, which appear for the family of Malmaynes in the 1619 Visitation, s.v. Toke]

4. gules, a chevron ermine between three squirrels or [for Gren(e)ford]

5. ermine, on a chief sable two griffins combatant argent [for Aldy].

Comparing these arms with those of his paternal uncle, Edward Monynges, of Waldershare, as given in the Kent Visitation of 1530-31, p. 14, we find that of the five quarters given above, they shared (1) through (4), which are described — with a few variations including a different tincture of the sinister hands in (3) — as follows:

1. gules three crescents or

2. gules, semée [semy] of crosses crosslet, a cross humetty argent

3. ermine, on a chief gules, three sinister hands couped argent

4. gules, a chevron ermine between three squirrels sejant or, each holding a nut between the front paws

Depite the minor discrepancies, the correspondences are clear enough; thus only (5) can have been inherited by Thomas through his mother, and it must therefore be for Aldy.[68]

   Although the 1574 pedigree shows all of Thomas’ issue as being by his second wife, this is probably a drafting error, as the other pedigree is so clear on the point; and I am inclined to follow Berry in assigning the two eldest children to the first marriage. 
   Issue:

(almost certainly by first wife)

 i   Edward Monins, d.s.p., not named in the 1619 Visitation. 

7 ii Peyton Monins (daughter).

(by second wife; order uncertain)

8 iii Mary Monins, b. by 1574.

  iv   Mary Monins “the younger,” called Marian by Berry, b. by 1574. She m. (1) 4 Oct. 1598 at Canterbury (IGI), Goldwell Rogers, fifth son of Richard Rogers (1532?-1597), Dean of Canterbury and Suffragan Bishop of Dover [72]....Mary or Marian Monins m. (2) (as his second wife, and reportedly without issue) well after 1605, but by 1619, Sir Christopher Man(n), of Canterbury, who was knighted 15 June 1625 at the same place.[73]  
 v  William Monins, d. young. 
 vi  John Monins, d. young. 
 vii  Ryce Monins, d. young. 

9 viii Stephen Monins, b. after 1574.

 ix  John Monins, b. after 1574, who according to the 1619 Visitation was of London; Berry says he d.s.p. 
 x  Thomas Monins, youngest son, b. after 1574; Berry says he d. s.p., which is probably correct as he is not mentioned in the 1619 Visitation. 
 xi  Frances Monins, b. after 1574. She m. before 1605, Leonard Sprackling (Jr.), of St. Dunstan, near Canterbury....[77] son of Leonard Sprackling.[78]  
 xii  Anne Monins, b. after 1574, probably d. young as she is not mentioned in the 1619 Visitation.

NOTES:

1559. 65. 1619 Visitation of Kent, p. 66; Berry, p. 213; John Burke, A genealogical and heraldic history of the extinct and dormant baronetcies of England, Ireland, and Scotland, 2nd ed. (London, 1841), p. 411. She was collaterally related to the Viriginia immigrant Robert Peyton, for whom see Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Immigrants, 2nd ed., pp. 274-5.

66. See 1619 Visitation of Kent, pp. 73-5, at p. 75; Berry, pp. 154-5, at p. 155. However, this man’s will, abstracted in Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica. 5th series, vol. 5 (1923-25), 148, mentions no such daughter.

67. 1574 & 1592 Visitations of Kent, ed. Bannerman, appendix, 2:136-7 (punctuation added).

68. 1574 Visitation of Kent, in Visitations of Kent, ed. Bannerman, 2:10. Additional evidence for the identifications of these arms, apart from the 1530 and 1574 visitations themselves, is as follows: Monins: 1619 Visitation, p. 28; Gren(e)ford: 1574 Visitation, 1:26; Aldy: 1574 & 1592 Visitations, Appendix, 2:121, and Burke’s General Armory (1842), 9. Even reference to Papworth’s Ordinary of British Armorials has not discovered the identity of the other two coats.

69. The Visitations of Kent taken in the years 1574 and 1592… (Harleian Society, vol. 75), 25 (this pedigree being signed by Richard Rogers himself), 143. Richard Rogers appears in the DNB, where it is noted that “his sister Catherine married as her second husband Thomas Cranmer, only son of the archbishop, and his cousin [was] Sir Edward Rogers, comptroller of Queen Elizabeth’s household. … During the reign of Queen Mary he is said to have been an exile for religion. Soon after Elizabeth’s accession … he was made archdeacon of St. Asaph…. [etc.] He died on 19 May 1597, and was buried in the dean’s chapel in Canterbury Cathedral. By his wife Ann (d. 1613) he left several children, of whom Francis (d. 1638) was rector of St. Margaret’s, Canterbury.” The second of the visitation pedigree cited indicates that this Rogers family impaled the arms gules, on a cross argent, five double-headed eagles displayed sable. These are precisely those of the “Dygges” family treated in The Visitations of Kent taken in the years 1530-1 … and 1574… (Harleian Society, vol. 74), 9, and of the “Diggs” family treated in the 1619 Visitation (Harleian Society, vol. 42), 64-65, of which the mathematician and astronomer Thomas Digges (the first Copernican in England), and his son Sir Dudley Digges, grandfather of William Digges of Maryland, were members (see Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Immigrants, 118-20). As noted above, Mary Monins’ great-great grandfather Richard Exherst was a beneficiary in the will of an unidentified widow Anne Dygges, of Canterbury; but this was nearly a century earlier, and any connection between these events must be somewhat tenuous.

70. Harleian Society, vol. 74, p. 10; his family held the manor of Goldwell in that parish, but it is not certain that William Goldwell was the head of the family in his day.

71. John Venn & J.A. Venn, Alumni Cantabrigienses (London: Cambridge University Press, 1922-1954).

72. Will of Richard Rogers, dated 14 May, 39 Elizabeth I [i.e. 1597], proved 14 June 1597; P.C.C. Cobham, modern archival reference PRO prob/11/90.

73. He is called “Christopher Man” in the 1619 visitation pedigree of Monins (p. 29) but “Charles Man” in that of Man (p. 23), and Berry (pp. 179, 1 & 92) repeats both names without noticing the contradiction (and moreover gives essentially the same pedigree of Man on pp. 1 and 92). The name Christopher agrees with Shaw, The Knights of England, 2:188, and is also supported by an entry in the 1663-68 visitation cited below.

74. See the editorial additions in the 1619 Visitation of Kent, pp. 126 (where her father is called “Gouldwell Rogers of Canterbury”) and Berry’s Kent pedigrees, pp. 474-5, at 474 (where her father is called “Godwell [sic] Rogers, of Denton, Esq.”). The best modern treatment seems to be A.J. Pearnman, “The Kentish Family of Lovelace,” Archaeologia Cantiana 10 (1876): 184–200, especially at pp. 216–20, and I draw heavily from it; however its author inexplicable calls Anne Rogers ”Elizabeth” and fails to realize she was the same as “Anne relict of Francis Lovelace,” whom he unneccesarily makes into a second wife. Daniel Lovelace, The Reliability of Florance Loveless Keeney Robertson’s Research on Colonel Francis Lovelance, Colonial Governor of New York during 1668-1673, available online at http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lovelace/frankexcerpt.htm, discusses some of the identification problems caused by repetition of names in this family. Our Francis Lovelace was third cousin to the father of Sir Richard Lovelace, the poet. The edition by W. Carew Hazlitt of Lucasta: The Poems of Richard Lovelace, Esq. (London, 1864), explicitly distinguishes him from the poet’s brother Francis on p. xiii, then confuses the two men on p. 218.

75. Entitled The speech of Francis Lovelace Esquire recorder of Canterbury: To the Kings most Excellent Majestie at his coming to Canterbury the 27 day of October 1660, quarto (1660), which I have not seen.

76. Calendar of State Papers, Domestic, 1660-1, p. 139.

77. The Booke of Regester of the parish of St. Peter in Canterbury…, 1560–1800, ed. Joseph Meadows Cowper (Canterbury, 1888) [hereafter Register of St. Peter’s, Canterbury], p. 130.

78. There is a fragmentary pedigree of this family in the 1619 Visitation of Kent, p. 124. The pedigree in the 1574 Visitation, pp. 72-3, erroneously calls his father “Lourens” instead of Leonard. The son Leonard shown for this man in 1574 apparently d. young, the son treated in our text being given the same name. The name of the wife of Leonard Sprackling Sr. is given as “Margareta ____” in the 1619 Visitation, but an abstract of some Sprackling memorials in St. Peter’s Church, Canterbury, given in the Kent Family History Society’s finding aid to the D’Elboux Manuscripts, suggests that she was actually Frances, d. 1605, daughter of Vincent Huffam.

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Thomas Monins, Esq.'s Timeline

1537
1537
Kent, England
1565
1565
Kent, England, United Kingdom
1574
1574
1574
Age 37
Kent, England
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Lydden, Kent, England