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Complete Peerage, 8 (1932): 271-273 (sub Lumley) has a good account of the life of Sir Thomas Lumley, 2nd Lord Lumley, who died in 1485. Sir Thomas Lumley was the son and heir of Sir John Lumley, of Lumley (in Little Lumley), Durham, by his wife, Felice Redman.

Regarding the birth date of Sir Thomas Lumley, the following information is provided by Complete Peerage: "Thomas Lumley, son and heir, was born at Morpeth [Northumberland] 29 Sept. 1408, and baptized in the church there the following day."

The source given for this information is Thomas Lumley's Proof of Age, namely "Inq. p.m. 10 Henry VI, no. 56." The birth date for Sir Thomas Lumley provided by Complete Peerage is evidently in error as Felice Redman's first husband, John Wodecok (or Woodcock), Citizen and mercer of London, left a P.C.C. will which was probated 21 April 1408.

A transcript of the actual Proof of Age of Sir Thomas Lumley is published in Archaeologia Aeliana, 22 (1900): 125, which may be viewed at the following weblink:

  http://books.google.com/books?id=VZUbAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA125 

While it is true that the Proof of Age records that Thomas Lumley was born 29 Sept. 1408, the inquisition further indicates that the jurors stated that Thomas Lumley was aged 22 on the feast of St. Michael last past [1431], or born 29 Sept. 1409.

Given that Felice Redman's 1st husband, John Wodecok, died in early 1408, it is apparent that her son, Sir Thomas Lumley, by her next marriage can not have been born in Sept. of the same year. Rather, the jurors appear to have correctly stated that Thomas Lumley was aged 22 on 29 Sept. 1431, or born in 1409.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah.

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• A genealogical history of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited, and extinct ...
• http://books.google.com/books?id=K3MaAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA337&lpg=PA337&dq...
• Pg.337
• SIR JOHN DE LUMLEY, b. 1384, who, doing his homage in the 6th HENRY IV. had livery of all the castles, manors, and lands, whereof his father, Ralph, Lord Lumley, was seized at the time of his attainder; and was restored in blood by act of parliament, in the 13th of the same reign. He was subsequently, temp. HENRY IV., and V., distinguished in the wars of France, and fell at the battle of Beaugé, in Anjou, 13 April, 1421. Sir John m. Felicia, dau. of Sir Matthew Redman, governor of Berwick, and was s. by his only son,
• SIR THOMAS DE LUMLEY, b. 1408, who, in the 33rd HENRY VI., 1455, was governor of Scarborough Castle, and upon the accession of King EDWARD IV., having petitioned the parliament for the reversal of the attainder of his grandfather, Ralph Lord Lumley, and that prayer being granted by the repeal of the said attainder, was summoned to parliament as BARON LUMLEY, 26 July, 1461, and from that period to 16 January, 1497, in which year he is supposed to have died. His Lordship m. Margaret, dau. of Sir James Harrington, Knt., brother of Sir Wm. Harrington, K.G., and was s. at his decease, by his only son,
• SIR GEORGE LUMLEY, 3rd baron, who does not appear to have been summoned to parliament. He was sheriff of Northumberland, 2nd EDWARD IV., 1462. This nobleman m. Elizabeth, dau. and co-heir of Roger Thornton, Esq., and opulent merchant
• Pg.338
• of Newcastle-upon-Tyne (by his wife Elizabeth, dau. of John, Lord Greystoke), and had issue,
• .... etc. ______________________
• Thomas LUMLEY (2° B. Lumley)
• Born: ABT 1408 / ABT 1416
• Died: ABT 1485 / ABT 1497
• Father: John LUMLEY
• Mother: Felicia REDMAN
• Married: Margaret HARRINGTON (B. Lumley)
• Children:
  • 1. George LUMLEY (3° B. Lumley)
  • 2. Joan LUMLEY
  • 3. Margaret LUMLEY
  • 4. Elizabeth LUMLEY
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/LUMLEY.htm#Thomas LUMLEY (2° B. Lumley)1 ______________________
• Margaret HARRINGTON (B. Lumley)
• Born: ABT 1410
• Died: AFT 1435
• Father: James HARRINGTON (Sir)
• Mother: Ellen URSWICK
• Married: Thomas LUMLEY (2° B. Lumley)
• Children:
  • 1. George LUMLEY (3° B. Lumley)
  • 2. Joan LUMLEY
  • 3. Margaret LUMLEY
  • 4. Elizabeth LUMLEY
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HARRINGTON.htm#Margaret HARRINGTON (B. Lumley) _________________________
• The visitations of Northamptonshire made in 1564 and 1618-19 : with Northhamptonshire pedigrees from various Harleian mss. (1887)
• http://archive.org/details/visitationsofnor00harvrich
• http://archive.org/stream/visitationsofnor00harvrich#page/180/mode/1up SAVED IMAGE
  • Harrington of Westley and Brixworth.
• Sir James Harrington of Westley, Kt., 2 son of Sir Nicholas Harrington of Tarlington in Toresdale, co. Westmoreland, Kt. = . . . . da. and heir of . . . . Urswick. ; ch: Margarett (m. Thomas, Lord Lumley), Margery (m. . . . Butler), Agnes (m. Sir Thomas Ashton), William (m. Anne Parr), (Pg.181 John (called Long John), Sir Richard (m. . . . Verdun) Harrington.
  • William Harrington. = Anne, da. of Thomas Parr. ; ch: Thomas Harrington.
    • Thomas Harrington. .... etc.
  • Agnes, ux. Sir Thomas Ashton, Kt.
  • Margery, ux. . . . . Butler.
  • Margarett, ux. Thomas, Lord Lumley.
  • http://archive.org/stream/visitationsofnor00harvrich#page/181/mode/1up
  • John, called Long John.
  • Sir Richard Harrington, Kt., 1 son and heir. = . . . . da. and heir of . . . . Verdun. Sable, a lion rampant Argent vulned on the shoulder Gules. ; ch: Sir William (m. . . . . Pickering of Pilkington) Harrington.
    • Sir William Harrington .... etc. __________________________
• Peerage of England: containing a genealogical and historical ..., Volume 3 By Arthur Collins
• http://books.google.com/books?id=FIoUAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA108&lpg=RA1-...
• Pg.108
• This Sir John Lumley, Lord Lumley, by Felicia his wife, daughter of Sir Matthew Redman, Governor of Berwick, had iffue a daughter Maud, married to Sir William Thirkhill, Knt. and Thomas de Lumley, his fon and heir.
• Which Thomas, in 10 Henry VI. on making proof of his age, had livery of his lands, when John Swynburn, of the age of 60 years and more, depofes that he was born at Morpeth, in Northumberland, on the feaft of St. Michael the Arch-Angel, in 1408, and was of the age of 22 years and more on the feaft of St. Michael laft, paft. Alfo by inquifition in 10 Hen. VI. was found heir to his father Sir John Lumley, who died poffeffed of meffuage and lands, called Sulam, in the parifh of Baryftany, in com' pla. Lanc. .... etc.
• Pg.109
• .... Having married Margaret, daughter of Sir James Harrington (brother of Sir William Harrington Lord Harrington, and Knight of the Garter in the reign of King Hen. V.) he had iffue by her, Sir George Lumley, his fucceffor, and three daughters, Joan wife of Bertram Harbottle, of the county of Northumberland, Margaret married to Bertram Lumley of Ravenfholm, in the Bifhoprick of Durham, and Elizabeth wife of William Tylliot, Efq;
• .... etc. _____________________

JUST A NOTE : all the accendung Tree information was gathered from the Smith-Goodale-Caldwell family tree on Ancestry.com I have attempted to copy accurately, however I may have made mistakes in transfering, so I would suggest going th that site and checking for yourself. I am only copyint the info here, and have done none of the research. Any errors in research belong to the owners of the S-G-C tree.

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