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Toba Chaye Rosenberg (Fine)

Also Known As: "Toby", "TaubaTobey", "Taube?"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Kovno, Russia (Russian Federation)
Death: January 16, 1907 (103)
Burlington, Chittenden, VT, United States
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Moses Fine
Wife of Jacob Yehuda Rosenberg
Mother of David Rosenberg; Harris (Hirsh) Rosenberg; Simon Rosenberg; Mayer Elihu Rosenberg; Khassa Rozaitsky and 5 others

Managed by: Private User
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About Toba Chaye Rosenberg

-According to her obit, she was born in "Knowo" (or "Knowono" or "Kowno", depending which paper). Russia on January 6, 1804. She died in Bulington VT the morning of Jan. 16, 1907
The Barre Daily Times gave it as Knowono, Russia on Jan. 6, 1804. Said "survived by seven sons the eldest David of this city 81, Harris, Simon and Myer, and Isaac also of Burlington, Samuel of New York and Max of Chicago. There are 42 grandchildren and 36 great grandchildren and 4 great great grandchildren."
We have 6 sons with surname Rosenberg - for 33 grandchildren listed so far: David - 5 --- Harris - 6 --- Simon Samuel - 2 --- Mayer - 9 -- Samuel Zorach - 6 --- Isaac - 5
Great grandchildren as of 1907 - David 10 thru Max, --

--On 1900 Census as Tobey Rosenberg - born "unknown" 1804 - M-in-law of Head(really wife's Grandmother) - Age 96 - Wd (for Widow) - Years married is blank -- 8 born, 7 alive - self & parents born Russia - immigrated 1888 - in US 11 years

IF 8 BORN, 7 ALIVE IN 1900 IS CORRECT - then there was just one other child. So either Khassa Rozaitsky or Herbert (and his private purposely created duplicate), not both.
Have found info in JewishGen / LitvakSig of Marriage record for son Isaac and birth record for one child of his, plus birth records for children of David, children of Harris -- all surname Rozaitsky or spelling variation thereof --See Isaac's About for more info tieing to that surname

1906 Article: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-burlington-free-press-mrs-to...

NOTE: Confirmed Match to 1870 Census is almost certainly ERROR!! There is no reason to believe she is Bertha there. It has a Chas. for Charles and a Sarah, neither of which we have a record of being in this family. .
Removed "Bertha" from AKA - because have seen no record for that, and there is no info entered supporting it. -- -- There is a Death Record for Max Bloom of Chicago which shows his Mother's Name as "Bertha Tobey", that may be where that came from. But that is still majorly in doubt as being the right Max.

=== GEDCOM Source ===
@R-1576397378@ Vermont Death Records, 1909-2008 Ancestry.com Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.Original data - Vermont. Vermont Death Records, 1909-2003. Vermont State Archives and Records Administration, Montpelier, Vermont. Vermont. Vermont Death Records, 2004-2008. Vital Rec 1,1607::0 Vermont State Archives and Records Administration; Montpelier, Vermont, USA; Vermont Death Records, 1909-2003; User Box Number: PR-01924; Roll Number: S-30859; Archive Number: M-2051389 1,1607::75463641

GEDCOM Source

@R-1576397378@ Vermont, Vital Records, 1720-1908 Ancestry.com Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.Original data - State of Vermont. Vermont Vital Records through 1870. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.State of Vermont. Vermont Vital Records, 1871–19 1,4661::0 1,4661::1077214

GEDCOM Source

@R-1576397378@ 1900 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623, 18 1,7602::0 Year: 1900; Census Place: Burlington Ward 2, Chittenden, Vermont; Roll: 1690; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 0065; FHL microfilm: 1241690 1,7602::61935612

GEDCOM Source

@R-1576397378@ 1900 United States Federal Census Ancestry.com Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623, 18 1,7602::0 Year: 1900; Census Place: Burlington Ward 2, Chittenden, Vermont; Roll: 1690; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 0065; FHL microfilm: 1241690 1,7602::61935612

GEDCOM Source

@R-1576397378@ Ancestry Family Trees Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=36772492&pid...

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Toba Chaye Rosenberg's Timeline

1804
January 6, 1804
Kovno, Russia (Russian Federation)

-According to one obit, she was born in "Knowo" Russia on January 6, 1804. She died in Bulington VT the morning of Jan. 16, 1907 (or "Knowono" or "Kowno", depending which newspaper)

--On 1900 Census as Tobey Rosenberg - born "unknown" 1804 - Age 96 - self & parents born Russia

--On 1907 Death Record as Tobey Rosenberg -- Age 103 -- born Rus. -- Father: Moses Fine born Rus. (For Mother and her place of birth, each just a dash)

--On son David's Death Record her maiden name is Tobe Rosiatzky -- on son Samuel's 1933 Death Record it is Toby Rosenberg

1835
1835
Russia (Russian Federation)

--On 1900 Census as David Rosenberg - born Aug 1838 - age 61 -- self & parents born Russia

1839
February 10, 1839
Russia

--In his 1891 Dec. Intention he is born Russia in 1843

--On 1900 Census as Harris Rosenberg -- born "not Know" 1832 - Age 68 -- self & parents born Germany
--On 1910 Census as Harris Rosenberg -- age 77 -- self & parents born Russ

--On his 1924 Death Record as Hirsche Rosenberg -- died July 10 1924 -- Age 85 Yrs. 5 Mos. 0 Days --- born Russia - Feb. 10, 1839 -- Father: Jacob Rosenberg born Russia -- Mother: Tobiah Fine born Russia

1847
1847
Russia (Russian Federation)

--His obit in the Burlington Weekly Free Press, 18 Dec 1919, p.5. Includes: "Simon Rosenberg died ... yesterday morning ... Mr. Rosenberg was born in Russia about 74 years ago -- -- 1919-74 = 1845

On the 1888 Declaration of Intention, 1890 Petition variously as Simel and Smiel Rosenberg - both say born in Russia in 1848

1848
1848
Russia

--On 1888 Nat. Petition for M. E. Rosenberg, born in Russia Poland in 1855

--On his Death Record he is born 1848

1855
1855

--1865 Death Record has ROZAITSKOI?, Khassa -- Father: Yankel -- Date of Death: 13/Jun/1865 -- Age: 10
Yankel for Jacob -- -- 1865-10=1855

1857
1857
Kaunas governorate, Lithuania, Russian Empire

--Arrived in 1906 aboard the ship "Neckar" as Mordche Blum, age, 52 -- place of birth (and last residence) Jurburg, Russia -- -- 1906-52= 1854
--On 1910 Census as Max Bloom - age 50 - self & parents born Rus. - -- suggests b: 1860
--On 1920 Census as Max Bloom - age 56 - self & parents born Russia -- suggests b: 1864
--On his 1925 Death Record he is Max Bloom - Age: "about 68" -- Father: Jacob Bloom -- Maiden Name Mother: Bertha Toby -- self and each parent born Kovno/Kovna Russia - Informant is Sam Bloom -- -- 1925-68 = 1857
If this Max is really the Max referred to in Obits/Death Notices as a Sibling of Rosenbergs, I would expect his son Sam to give his father's name as Jacob Rosenberg, not Jacob Bloom.

1859
1859
Russia

--On 1900 Census as Sam Rosenberg - born Mar 1862 - age 38 - self & parents born Russi
--On 1910 Census as Samuel Rosenberg - age 48 - self & parents bor Rus-Russian

1859
Lithuania

ESTIMATING BIRTH As Twenty Years before birth of first (known) child. May be born well before that.

Descendants known to have DNA Results
Private User - Ancestry, FTDNA, Gedmatch
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Discussed in https://www.geni.com/discussions/239445?msg=1514013 from previous posts - he and
Private User . - Ancestry - gen 4 - thru Sarah (Bloom) Cohen
Diane Elefson - Ancestry - gen 4 - thru Sarah (Bloom) Cohen
Private User - Ancestry - gen 4 - thru David Bloom
Jess Lacher - gen 5
Alexander Nachman - son of Arthur Aaron Nachman - gen 5
Many also here: https://www.geni.com/discussions/239445?msg=1515999

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Leslie Hausner Montanile - gen 5
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Steven Albert - Ancestry, FTDNA - gen 4 - thru Sarah (Bloom) Cohen