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William Fychan ap Gwilym

Also Known As: "William ap Gwilym Griffith", "William Griffith", "William Gryffyth", "Gwilym ap Gwilym"
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Birthplace: Penrhyn, Llandygai, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Death: Died in Pembrokeshire, Wales
Immediate Family:

Son of Gwilym ap Gruffudd and Jonet Stanley
Husband of Gwenllian verch Iorwerth Ddu and Alice Dalton
Father of Agnes Velville; Robert Griffith; Elizabeth Griffyth and Jonet verch William
Brother of Angharad verch Gwilym; Tudor ap Gwilym of Penmynydd and Ellen verch Gwilym

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About William "Fychan" ap Gwilym, Chamberlain of North Wales

  • William Fychan ap Gwilym, Deputy Chamberlain of North Wales1,2,3
  • M, #90657, b. circa 1420
  • Father Sir Gwilym Griffeth4 b. c 1390
  • Mother Janet Stanley4 d. 1466
  • OTHER REFERENCES HAVE DIFFERENT MOTHER FOR ALICE DALTON
  • William Fychan ap Gwilym, Deputy Chamberlain of North Wales was born circa 1420 at of Penryhn, Caernarvonshire, Wales.1 He married Alice Dalton, daughter of Sir Richard Dalton and Isabel Stanley, circa 1444.1,2,3
  • Family Alice Dalton b. c 1424
  • Child
    • Sir William Griffith, Chamberlain of North Wales+1,2,3 b. c 1447, d. 1505 or 1506
  • Citations
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 243.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 559.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 345.
  • [S61] Unknown author, Family Group Sheets, Family History Archives, SLC.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p3018.htm#i90657

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  • Joan (Jane) TROUTBECK
  • Born: ABT 1459, Mobberley, Cheshire, England
  • Notes: The Griffiths of Penrhyn were one of the most powerful families in North Wales at the time and were a branch of the Tudor family descended from Ednyfed Fychan (d. 1246) and the Welsh royal and princely houses. The half-sister of Sir William (according to some pedigrees, but possibly his daughter), Agnes Griffith (d. 1542), married Sir Roland de Velville.
  • Father: William TROUTBECK of Dunham (Sir Knight)
  • Mother: Margaret STANLEY (B. Grey of Codnor)
  • Married: William GRIFFITH of Penhryn (Sir Knight) (son of William Griffith and Alice Dalton) ABT 1475, Penrhyn, Carnaervonshire, Wales
  • Children:
    • 1. William GRIFFITH of Penrhyn (b. ABT 1476) (m.1 Jane Stradling - m.2 Jane Pulleston)
    • 2. Edmund GRIFFITH
    • 3. Alice GRIFFITH
    • 4. Jane GRIFFITH (b. ABT 1505)
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/TROUTBECK.htm#Joan (Jane) TROUTBECK1

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  • Bangor University
  • Penrhyn Castle Papers
  • .... etc.
  • Between 1431 and 1531, the son, grandson and great-grandson of Gwilym ap Griffith held the Penrhyn estate and added to it. They succeeded in allying themselves with prominent English houses, especially the Stanleys, which began with the marriage of Gwilym ap Griffith with Joan Stanley of Hooton. Gwilym Fychan, the son of that marriage, married before 1447, Ales daughter and heiress of Sir Richard Dalton of Althorp, Northants. The marriage reflects the Stanley connection, as Ales Dalton was the granddaughter of Isabel de Pilkington by her second marriage, whose daughter by Thomas de Lathom, her first husband, brought Lathom and Knowsley to the Stanleys. Gwilym Fychan married secondly, Gwenllian, daughter of Iorwerth ap David. Robert, his eldest son by this marriage, was the ancestor of the family of Griffith of Plas Newydd, Anglesey, and Llanfair-is-gaer, Caernarvonshire. Edmund the second son founded the estate of Carreg-lwyd, Anglesey. His son and heir from his first marriage was William Griffith (ca.1445-1505/6). He is not always easy to distinguish in the documents from his father. He married firstly Joan Troutbeck, widow of Sir William Butler of Bewsey, Cheshire, whose mother was Margaret, daughter of Sir Thomas Stanley, first Baron Stanley.
  • From: http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=39&coll_id=10875&expand=

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  • Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition ...
  • https://books.google.com/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA1-PA448&lpg=RA1-PA448&dq=dorothy+hilton+1563&source=bl&ots=kvmDGXPP73&sig=_tEATIE3oPQx2W9Gas-zL6t5j8c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwju9suQ1vfJAhVJ2GMKHbOBBcs4FBDoAQgzMAY#v=onepage&q=DALTON&f=false
  • Pg.559
  • 12. JOAN TROUTBECK, born in 1459. She married (1st) WILLIAM BOTELER, Knt., 2nd but eldest son and heir of John Boteler, Knt., of Bewsey (in Warrington), Burtonwood, Great Sankey, etc., Lancashire, by his 1st wife, Margaret, daughter of Peter Gerard. He was born 25 Nov. 1450. They had no issue. SIR WILLIAM BOTELER died 8 June 1471. His widow, Joan, married (2nd) (as his 1st wife) WILLIAM GRIFFITH, K.B., of Penrhyn,Caernarvonshire, Marshal of the King's Hall, Chamberlain of North Wales, son of Gwilyn Fychan ap Gwilym (otherwise know as William Griffith), Marshal of the King's Hall, deputy to various Chamberlains of North Wales, by his 1st wife, Alice, daughter of Richard Dalton, Knt. He was born about 1447. They had one son, William, Knt., and three daughters, Jane (wife of William Herbert, Knt.), Margaret (wife of Nicholas Dutton, Knt., and Simon Thelwall), and Ann (wife of ——Winnington). He married (2nd) ELIZABETH GREY, daughter of Robert Grey, Esq., Constable of Ruthin Castle. They had one son, William Grey, and one daughter, Alice .... etc.

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  • Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, 2nd Edition ... By Douglas Richardson
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Plantagenet+ancestry&hl=en&sa=X&ei=U8VLUYTME-boiALhroHwBw&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Dalton&f=false
  • Pg. 595
  • 15. JOAN TROUTBECK, born in 1459. She married (1st) WILLIAM BOTELER, Knt., 2nd but eldest son and heir of John Boteler, Knt., of Bewsey (in Warrington), Burtonwood, Great Sankey, etc., Lancashire, by his 1st wife, Margaret, daughter of Peter Gerard. he was born 25 Nov. 1450. They had no issue. SIR WILLIAM BOTELER died 8 Jun 1471. His widow, Joan, married (2nd) (as his 1st wife) WILLIAM GRIFFITH, K.G., of Penrhyn, Caernarvonshire, Marshal of the King's Hall, Chamberlain of North Wales, son of Gwilym Fychan ap Gwilym (otherwise know as William Griffith), Marshal of the King's Hall, deputy of various Chamberlains of North Wales, by his 1st wife, Alice, daughter of Richard Dalton, Knt. He was born about 1447. They had one son, William, Knt., and three daughters, Jane (wife of William Herbert, Knt.), Margaret (wife of Nicholas Dutton, Knt., and Simon Thelwall), and Ann (wife of __ Winnington). He married (2nd) ELIZABETH GREY, daughter of Robert Grey, Esq., Constable of Ruthin Castle. They had one son, William Grey, and one daughter, Alice (wife of Pierce Vychan, of Coetmor). SIR WILLIAM GRIFFITH died in 1505 or 1506.

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  • 'Dalton01'
  • Sir Richard Dalton of Bypsam, Lancashire
    • 1. Sir Robert Dalton
    • m. _Latham (dau of Sir Thomas Latham)
      • A. Sir John Dalton
      • m. _ Hussey (dau of Sir Henry Hussey)
        • i. Sir John Dalton
        • m. _ Pilkington (dau of Sir Richard Pylkyngton)
          • a. Sir Richard Dalton 'of Apethorpe'
          • m. Katherine Venables (dau of Sir Thomas Venables)
            • (1) Ales Dalton
            • m. William Gryffyth of Penryn
            • (2)+ other daughters
          • b. Robert Dalton .... etc.
  • Main source(s): Visitation (Yorkshire, 1563-4, Dalton), Commoners (vol i, Dalton of Thurnham)
  • From: Stirnet.com
  • http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/dd/dalton01.php

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William "Fychan" ap Gwilym, Chamberlain of North Wales's Timeline

1390
1390
Caernarvonshire, Wales
1430
1430
Age 40
Llandygai, Caernarvon, Wales
1478
1478
Age 88
Penrhyn, Wales
1483
1483
Age 93
Pembrokeshire, Wales
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