William de Courtenay

• Traditionally seen as son of Renauld de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay. However, it seems more likely he was the son of Reynold l de Courtenay, 1st lord of Sutton
• wrong generation to be husband of Matilda du Don Jon
• not the same as Guillaume de Courtenay (son of Milo de Courtenay)

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William de Courtenay, elder son, d bef 1209 m Avis D'Aincourt, d 31 Jul 1209

Children

1. 6 - Robert, died at his Manor of Iwerne Courtenay, County Dorset, 26 Jul 1242, bur Ford Abbey. m Mary de Redvers, of Vernon; many years a widow; Abbess of Quarr, in the Isle of Wight; Abbess of Pratelles, in Normandy

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Origins

Douglas Richardson, Post at SGM, 6 November 2019 < GoogleGroups >

Published at "Royal Ancestry" D. Richardson Vol. II. page 314

Reynold de Courtenay, of uncertain parentage. He married (1st) an unidentified wife, ____, kinswoman of Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine. They had three sons, William, Robert, and Reynold, and one daughter, Egeline. He married (2nd) after 1173 Maud FitzRobert. He was first recorded as holding lands in Devon in 1175-6. Sometime prior to his death, he granted two islands in the Thames between Witteneiam [?Wittenham] and Wadeiam [?Waddeson] to Abingdon Abbey. He died before Michaelmas 1191. In 1204-5 the king presented to the chapel of Musbury, Devon, which should have been in his widow, Maud's gift. In 1215 the king directed the Constable of Wallingford to deliver to her seisin of the vill of Waddesdon, Buckinghamshire, which formed part of her dower. In 1220 she sued Robert de Courtenay an Reynold de Courtenay (her nephews and step-grandsons) for the manors of Oakhampton, Chawleigh, Chulmleigh, Kenn, and Musbury, and Sampford, Devon and Hemington, Somerset, which she claimed as her right; Robert answered that no claims under French titles were valid; Maud rebutted that the properties were in England and she was English. Maud died shortly before 3 August 1224. In 1227 a mandate was sent to the sheriff of Gloucestershire ordering him to make enquiry of Peter FitzHerbert concerning scutage for the manor of Okehampton, Devon which belonged to Maud de Courtenay.

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From Colonial families of Long Island, New York and Connecticut, being the ancestry & kindred of Herbert Furman Seversmith., vol.5. Seversmith, Herbert Furman, (1904-Seversmith, Herbert Furman, 1904-,) Page 420-421 < text link > https://hdl.handle.net/2027/wu.89063148589

… While at first, in the earlier years of his association with Henry II, both in Normandy and in England, de Courtenay appears to have held only of the king's gift, he formally received a grant of the manor of Sutton at some date between 1172 and 1178. This was perhaps associated with the wardship of the two daughters of Matilda or Maud d'Avrlanches, which, to- gether with their marriages were given to Reginald de Courtenay after their mother died in 1172. Shortly thereafter Reginald married Matilda Fitz-Ede, , one of the daughters, and by 1178 his son by an earlier wife, Reginald, married Matilda's half-sister, Hawise de Courcy. The senior Reginald de Courtenay died during Michaelmas term (October. December), 1190. Both he and his son Robert, who received the manor Sutton during the term, are recorded successively in the Pipe Roll the term. for Reginald de Courtenay married at least twice, and perhaps three times. The name of the mother of his son Reginald is not known. His last wife, who survived him, was Matilda or Maud 'Fitz-Ede', daughter of Robert Fitz- Ede or Edith, illegitimate son of king Henry I of England and Edith, dau.. of Forn, by Matilda (d'Avranches) de Courcy, widow of William de Courcy. By her he had no known issue. His first wife has been unauthoritatively termed the sister of one Guy de Donjon. Issue, by first wife: 1. William. He had a wife named Ada, who after his death married to Theobald de Lascelles, kt. Issue is said to have included a son Robert, who died without hei'ss of his body. Issue, wife's name unknown: 2. Robert, who paid a relief of 300 marks to the king in 1191 to en. joy in peace ( saving the rights of the heirs of his first born brother William) the manor of Sutton, which had been his fa ther's. William had no heirs to claim the manor, and when Ro. bert died in 1209, also without heirs of his body, the went to his brother Reginald. 3. REGINALD, married Hawi se de Courcy. See page 2, 419. 4. Egelina, married Gilbert Basset. See CURTENAY. second line. manor NOTES See Calendar of Documents in France.

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Comments

Also seen as Died 10 Sep 1217 at about age 89 in Christchurch Borough, Twynham, East Dorset, England

Disputed information

Guillaume de Courtenay s/o Renaud Sire de Courtenay husband of Maud d/o Henry I and Maud d'Avranches

Medlands:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm

MAUD (-1224). The Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey names “Matildam” as the daughter of “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” and his wife “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”, adding that she married “Reginaldo de Courtenay…filio suo Willielmo de Courtenay”[220]. Dame du Sap. m GUILLAUME de Courtenay, son of RENAUD Sire de Courtenay & his first wife Helvise de Donjon (-before 1190).

[NOTE from Curator Pam Wilson: this is likely incorrect. I believe that Charles Cawley of Medlands database is incorrect in his interpretation here-- there is great confusion about which daughter or wife of Robert d'Avranches married which de Courtenay. It appears that Hawise d'Avranches (daughter of Maud d'Avenell) married Reginald II de Courtenay and not his brother Guillaume]

Curators Note: there was a mix up here which has now, hopefully. been cleared up

Terry Jackson 28 August 2010

References

• http://courtenaysociety.org/courtnde.htm COURTENAY LINE per Charles Worthy's "digression"
• https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Courtenay-1038