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Renaud ‘Reynold ll’ de Courtenay

Also Known As: "Reginald", "Rainald", "Renaud"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: (Probably), Courtenay, Loiret, Centre, France
Death: September 27, 1194 (39-48)
Okehampton, Devonshire, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Renauld ‘Reynold l’ de Courtenay and 1st wife of Reynold de Courtenay
Husband of Hawise de Crucy, lady of Okehampton
Father of Reynold Ill de Courtenay; Henry Courtenay and Sir Robert de Courtenay, Baron of Okehampton
Brother of Robert de Courtenay, lord of Sutton; William de Courtenay and Egelina de Courtenay

Occupation: Castellan of Exeter
Managed by: James Fred Patin, Jr.
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About Renaud ‘Reynold ll’ de Courtenay

Traditionally seen as son of Renauld de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay. However, it seems more likely he was the son of Renauld ‘Reynold l’ de Courtenay


Reynold de Courtenay

  • AKA Reginald, Renaud
  • b. about 1150 in France
  • d. 27 September 1194 in Okehampton, Devonshire, England

Reynold de Courtenay was the son of Reynold de Courtenay and his first wife. He married Hawise de Crucy, Lady of Okehampton, daughter of William de Crucy and Matilda d'Avranches, Dame du Sap, before 1178.1

He died on 27 September 1194.1

Reynold de Courtenay held the office of Castellan of Exeter.1 He held the office of Sheriff of Devon.1

Children of Reynold de Courtenay and Hawise de Crucy, Lady of Okehampton:

  1. Reginald Courtenay, Born about 1174 in Of Okehampton, Devon, England
  2. Henry Courtenay, Born about 1176 in Okehampton
  3. Robert de Courtenay, Born about 1183 in Okehampton, Devon, England d. 26 Jul 1242. Married Mary Vernon.

Possibly Egelina (b abt 1165 - d aft 1219) was his daughter. Richardson places her as daughter of his father.

Biography

(1) Renaud II de Courtenay, ( - d. 27 September 1194) who in 1172, accompanied King Henry II of England on the Irish Expedition to the Wexford. He married Hawise de Curcy (d.1219), heiress of the feudal barony of Okehampton in Devon, and half sister to his father's second wife, Maud du Sap. Through the marriage, he acquired Okehampton Castle, which remained in the Courtenay family for many generations. They had a son, Robert de Courtenay (d. 1242), who was the great-grandfather of Hugh de Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon (d.1340).


“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):

REYNOLD DE COURTENAY, in right of his wife, of Okehampton, Alphington, Kenn, Musbury, Wimple, and Winkleigh, Devon, younger son by his father's 1st marriage, born about 1150.

He married after 1173 and before 1178 HAWISE DE COURCY, daughter and heiress of William de Courcy, by Maud, daughter of Robert d'Avranches. She was born before 1162, and was the older half-sister of his father's 2nd wife, Maud Fitz Robert.

They had three sons,

  • 1. Robert, Knt.,
  • 2. Reynold, Knt., and
  • 3. Henry.

In 1178 he and his wife, Hawise, were granted license to have a free chapel at Oakhampton, Devon.

At an unknown date, he witnessed a charter of his brother, Robert de Courtenay. REYNOLD DE COURTENAY died 27 Sept. 1194, and was buried at Ford Abbey, Dorset.

In 1199 she fined for 300 marks for the lands of her mother, which included 40 librates in England and just as many in Normandy. In 1201 she owed 40 marks and one palfrey for 18 knights' fees. The same year she paid 40 marks for permission to cross the seas. In 1205 she owed 500 pounds and five palfreys to have livery of the honour of Oakhampton, Devon.

At an unknown date, she confirmed to Christchurch Priory the land of Wicha in the manor of Chulmleigh, Devon, which land her predecessor, Richard Fitz Baldwin, previously gave to William Martel.

Sometime during her widowhood, she granted the advowson of the church of Alphington, Devon to Henry de Courtenay. At an unknown date, she gave Ford Abbey the whole land of Haregrave, Devon in frankalmoin for maintaining three poor persons in the infirmary of the said house.

Hawise died 31 July 1219, and was buried at Ford Abbey, Dorset. On 14 August 1219 the king ordered the Sheriff of Devon to take into the king's hand all lands and tenements in his bailiwick formerly of Hawise de Courtenay, and keep them safely until the king orders otherwise. The same year her sister, Maud de Courtenay, brought a lawsuit against her, but the action was stayed due to Hawise's death.


https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/57342178/renauld-de_courtenay

BURIAL
Forde Abbey
Thorncombe, West Dorset District, Dorset, England
MEMORIAL ID 57342178

Renaud de Courtenay, married Hawise de Courcy, daughter and heir of William de Courcy by Maud d'Avranches, lady of Okehampton, and daughter of Robert d'Avranches, lord of Okehampton.

Renaud was in great favor with Henry II, was with him in his wars, and esteemed a noble and valiant warrior, and was witness to many of his deeds and charters. By Hawise, he had three sons and one daughter: Robert, Reginald, Henry and Egeline de Courtenay, the wife of Gilbert Basset, Baron of Heddington, by whom she had a son, Thomas, who died young, and a daughter, Eustachia, who married Richard de Camvil, by whom she had one daughter, Idonea, who married William Longspee, Earl of Salisbury, and natural son of Henry II by Rosamond Clifford.
Renaud was the son of Renauld de Courtenay

Sheriff of Devon

Gravesite Details
Forde Abbey was in Devon until 1842, when it passed to Dorset, and is now within the limits of Chard, Somerset. Find A Grave contributor Todd Whiteside


Origins

Douglas Richardson, Post at SGM, 6 November 2019 < GoogleGroups >

Published at "Royal Ancestry" D. Richardson Vol. II. page 314

Reynold de Courtenay, of uncertain parentage. He married (1st) an unidentified wife, ____, kinswoman of Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine. They had three sons, William, Robert, and Reynold, and one daughter, Egeline. He married (2nd) after 1173 Maud FitzRobert. He was first recorded as holding lands in Devon in 1175-6. Sometime prior to his death, he granted two islands in the Thames between Witteneiam [?Wittenham] and Wadeiam [?Waddeson] to Abingdon Abbey. He died before Michaelmas 1191. In 1204-5 the king presented to the chapel of Musbury, Devon, which should have been in his widow, Maud's gift. In 1215 the king directed the Constable of Wallingford to deliver to her seisin of the vill of Waddesdon, Buckinghamshire, which formed part of her dower. In 1220 she sued Robert de Courtenay an Reynold de Courtenay (her nephews and step-grandsons) for the manors of Oakhampton, Chawleigh, Chulmleigh, Kenn, and Musbury, and Sampford, Devon and Hemington, Somerset, which she claimed as her right; Robert answered that no claims under French titles were valid; Maud rebutted that the properties were in England and she was English. Maud died shortly before 3 August 1224. In 1227 a mandate was sent to the sheriff of Gloucestershire ordering him to make enquiry of Peter FitzHerbert concerning scutage for the manor of Okehampton, Devon which belonged to Maud de Courtenay.


From Colonial families of Long Island, New York and Connecticut, being the ancestry & kindred of Herbert Furman Seversmith., vol.5. Seversmith, Herbert Furman, (1904-Seversmith, Herbert Furman, 1904-,) Page 420-421 < text link > https://hdl.handle.net/2027/wu.89063148589

… While at first, in the earlier years of his association with Henry II, both in Normandy and in England, de Courtenay appears to have held only of the king's gift, he formally received a grant of the manor of Sutton at some date between 1172 and 1178. This was perhaps associated with the wardship of the two daughters of Matilda or Maud d'Avrlanches, which, to- gether with their marriages were given to Reginald de Courtenay after their mother died in 1172. Shortly thereafter Reginald married Matilda Fitz-Ede, , one of the daughters, and by 1178 his son by an earlier wife, Reginald, married Matilda's half-sister, Hawise de Courcy. The senior Reginald de Courtenay died during Michaelmas term (October. December), 1190. Both he and his son Robert, who received the manor Sutton during the term, are recorded successively in the Pipe Roll the term. for Reginald de Courtenay married at least twice, and perhaps three times. The name of the mother of his son Reginald is not known. His last wife, who survived him, was Matilda or Maud 'Fitz-Ede', daughter of Robert Fitz- Ede or Edith, illegitimate son of king Henry I of England and Edith, dau.. of Forn, by Matilda (d'Avranches) de Courcy, widow of William de Courcy. By her he had no known issue. His first wife has been unauthoritatively termed the sister of one Guy de Donjon. Issue, by first wife: 1. William. He had a wife named Ada, who after his death married to Theobald de Lascelles, kt. Issue is said to have included a son Robert, who died without hei'ss of his body. Issue, wife's name unknown: 2. Robert, who paid a relief of 300 marks to the king in 1191 to en. joy in peace ( saving the rights of the heirs of his first born brother William) the manor of Sutton, which had been his fa ther's. William had no heirs to claim the manor, and when Ro. bert died in 1209, also without heirs of his body, the went to his brother Reginald. 3. REGINALD, married Hawi se de Courcy. See page 2, 419. 4. Egelina, married Gilbert Basset. See CURTENAY. second line. manor NOTES See Calendar of Documents in France.


From Medlands:

RENAUD de Courtenay (-27 Sep 1194). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified, although the Testa de Nevill confirms that the father of Robert de Courtenay was the son of Renaud de Courtenay: a writ of King John dated 1212 records that "Robertus de Curtenay" held "terre in Sutton" in Berkshire which King Henry II had granted to "Reginaldo de Curtenay avo suo"[1541]. The 1176/77 Pipe Roll names "Reginaldo de Curtenai…in Sutton" in Berkshire[1542]. m (1178 or before) HAWISE Lady of Okehampton, daughter of [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy] & his wife Mathilde d'Avranches (-31 Jul 1219). Two versions of her parentage are recorded. Bracton records a claim, dated 1222, by "Matillis de Curteney" against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", which records that "Robertus" claimed that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam [%E2%80%A6filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem"[1543]. However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, by "Matillis de Curtenay" against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha" states that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[1544]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Hawisa de Curtenay" holding three knights´ fees in Debonshire in [1210/12][1545]. The sheriff of Devon was ordered "to take into the king´s hand…lands…formerly of Hawise de Courtenay, who is dead as the king has heard", dated 14 Aug 1219[1546]. Renaud & his wife had one child:

i) ROBERT de Courtenay (-26 Jul 1242, bur Ford Abbey, Devon). The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Robertus de Curtenay" held "terre in Sutton" in Berkshire which King Henry II had granted to "Reginaldo de Curtenay avo suo"[1547]. Of Okehampton.


References

  1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1122. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
  2. Pedigree in Visitation of Cornwall, Vivian ed., 1887, p.105
  3. https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#_Toc77580860
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(Probably), Courtenay, Loiret, Centre, France
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Okehampton (Devonshire) England
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