William de Lindsay, Lord of Lamberton

Biography

William de Lindsay, Knight (son of Walter Lindsay and Christiana) was born 24 Jun 1250 in Mordington, Berwickshire, Scotland, and died 06 Nov 1283 in Died in the war against Llewllyn, Prince of Wales.

William married 8 Ada de BALIOL, daughter of Sir John de BALIOL Knight & Devorguilla of GALLOWAY, on 23 May 1266 in Mordington, Berwickshire, Scotland. She [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] was born 1246 in Gainford, Durham, England. She died after 20 Nov 1285. She was the sister of John de Baliol, King of Scotland.

Their child

1. Christian De Lindsay, b. 1267, Mordington, Berwickshire, Scotland. married Enguerrand de Guisnes, Seigneur de Courcy, son of Comte Arnold III de Guignes.1

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WALTER de Lindsay ([1231/32]-2 Nov 1271). A writ dated 25 Dec "31 Hen III", after the death of "William de Lancastr" names "Peter de Brus of full age and Walter son of William de Lyndeseys aged 16 are his heirs", adding that he died "on Wednesday the vigil of St Andrew"[907]. … m as her first husband, CHRISTIANA, daughter of ---. She married secondly (before 23 Sep 1274) Walter Percy. Alexander III King of Scotland informed Edward I King of England that "with his assent Cristiana widow of Walter de Lyndesay had married Walter de Percy" by letter dated 23 Sep 1274[910]. "Walter de Percy of Kyldale" paid a fine of 80 marks for marrying "Cristiana widow of Walter de Lindeseye" without King Edward’s permission by charter dated 14 Jun 1275[911].

Walter & his wife had [three] children:

• a) WILLIAM de Lindsay of Lamberton (1250-before 28 May 1283). A writ dated Thursday after Epiphany "56 Hen III", after the death of "Walter de Lyndesay", states that he died "on the day of the Commemoration of All Souls last" and names "William his son, aged 21 at the nativity of St John the Baptist last, is his heir, and five years ago at Whitsunday last contracted marriage with Ada daughter of John de Balliolo, with his father’s consent"[912]. m (15 May 1266) ADA Balliol, daughter of JOHN de Balliol of Barnard Castle, co Durham & his wife Devorguilla of Galloway. A writ dated Thursday after Epiphany "56 Hen III", after the death of "Walter de Lyndesay", states that he died "on the day of the Commemoration of All Souls last" and names "William his son, aged 21 at the nativity of St John the Baptist last, is his heir, and five years ago at Whitsunday last contracted marriage with Ada daughter of John de Balliolo, with his father’s consent"[913]. A charter dated 27 Dec 1283 records the protection granted by King Edward I to "Ada widow of William de Lyndeseye about to set out for Scotland"[914]. William & his wife had one child:
  • i) CHRISTIAN de Lindsay ([1267]-1320 or after). An undated manuscript relating to Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire, names “Christiana de Lyndesay” as daughter of “secundo Willielmo”, adding that she married “Ingelranum de Gynes”[1222]. Inquisitions following a writ dated 10 Nov "10 Edw I", after the death of "William de Lyndeseye”, name “Christiana his daughter aged 16 at the Annunciation 11 Edw I is his heir”[1223]. A charter dated 28 May 1283 records the fealty sworn to King Edward I by "Ingeram de Gynes" who has married "Cristiana daughter and heiress of William de Lindesi deceased" for her father’s lands[1224]. 1320. m (before 28 May 1283) ENGUERRAND de Guines, son of ARNOUL [III] Comte de Guines & his wife Alix de Coucy (-after 1321). He succeeded in 1311 as Seigneur de Coucy.
• b) [MARGARET de Lindsay . Balfour Paul shows her parentage and marriage[917]. m DAVID de Lindsay, son of ---.]
• c) [ALICE de Lindsay (-after 18 Nov 1279). Balfour Paul suggests that her parentage is confirmed by her possession of Ulseby and her son John Comyn (presumably indicating John Comyn "the Black") being guardian of Alexander Lindsay, son of her supposed sister Margaret and David de Lindsay[918]. However, the chronology suggests that John Comyn "the Black" was the son of John Comyn’s first wife. Considering the birth of her supposed father Walter de Lindsay in [1231/33], it is unlikely that Alice could have married John Comyn before [1265] at the earliest. m ([1265/70]%29 as his second wife, JOHN Comyn Lord of Badenoch, son of RICHARD Comyn & his wife --- (-1277).]

[911] Balfour Paul Scots Peerage, Vol. IV, Hamilton, pp. 350-2.
[912] Balfour Paul Scots Peerage, Vol. I, p. 20.
[1222] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Cokersand Abbey, Lancashire VI, p. 909.
[1223] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. II, Edward I, 447, p. 269.

Parishes: Molesworth - Manor

… The subtenancy in 1086 was held of the Countess Judith by Eustace the Sheriff. (fn. 9) From him it seems to have passed early in the 12th century to Walter L'Engleis, and by the marriage of his sister with Walter (?) de Lindsey (Lindesei) it descended in that family. (fn. 10) Walter apparently had a son Walter de Lindsey of Earlstown in Lauderdale, who granted the church of Earlstown to the Abbey of Kelso for the soul of Walter, his uncle, about 1159. (fn. 11) His brother William, son of Walter de Lindsey I, between 1156 and 1166 bestowed on Chicksand Priory (Beds), for the health of his father and for the souls of his mother and of Walter L'Engleis, 160 acres in Molesworth and common of pasture for twenty score sheep and 24 beasts. (fn. 12) The grant was attested by the donor's father, Walter, and this and other grants in Molesworth made by William de Lindsey and Walter, his brother, were confirmed to Chicksand by Henry II between 1163 and 1166. (fn. 13) Walter appears to have succeeded his brother William about 1165, when he paid £20 for the right of his lands in Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire. (fn. 14) Richard de Lindsey, said by Dr. Farrer to be Walter's successor, may have been his son, who was succeeded by a brother Walter, as in 1201 Walter warranted the charter which Richard had made to Crowland Abbey. Walter attested an agreement in 1213, but in 1216 the lands late of Walter de Lindsey in Molesworth were committed to Roger de Millers, presumably during the minority of the heir. Sir Walter de Lindsey, knt., probably, from the dates, son and heir of the last named Walter, presented to the church of Molesworth in 1220, when he would have reached his majority. He seems to have died 'before 1230, before which year William de Lindsey, who, again it would appear from the dates, was a brother of Sir Walter, married Alice, sister and later co-heir of William de Lancaster, Baron of Kendal. In 1232 William de Lindsey brought an action against William, son of Hamel, as to half a hide, less 5 acres, of land in Molesworth and in 1235 presented to the church. (fn. 15) He was holding half a fee in Molesworth in 1242–3 of Isabella de Brus of the honour of Huntingdon. (fn. 16) William died before 1250, when the lands of his son and heir, Walter, were taken into the king's hands. (fn. 17) Walter, while still a minor aged 16, was returned as co-heir of his uncle William de Lancaster, Baron of Kendal, in 1246. (fn. 18) He was heavily burdened with the debts of his uncle, William de Lancaster, and died in 1271, leaving William, his son and heir, aged 21 years, (fn. 19) and a widow Christiana, who held dower in 1282. (fn. 20)

William married in 1266 Ada, daughter of John de Balliol, and died in 1282, leaving a daughter, Christiana, wife of Ingram de Gynes. (fn. 21) William seems to have settled Molesworth on his brother, Gilbert de Lindsey, who in 1279 is said to have held the manor of William de Lindsey for the rent of a pair of gilt spurs or 6d., and he of William de Brus by foreign service, and he of Robert de Brus. (fn. 22) In 1286, however, Ada, widow of William de Lindsey, claimed dower. (fn. 23) In the same year Gilbert de Lindsey failed to justify a claim to view of frankpledge and other liberties in the manor, which was thereupon taken into the king's hands, but replevied in 1289. (fn. 24) In 1319 complaint was made by Gilbert de Lindsey, presumably son of the former Gilbert, as to an assault upon him and his men by a multitude of persons at Molesworth. (fn. 25) Probably the younger Gilbert settled the manor on his sister Margaret, the wife of Simon de Drayton, for life. Simon de Drayton and John his son, with others, were accused of killing John de Overton Longueville at Holborn (Midd.), and were pardoned in 1339. Apparently the matter was raised again in 1342, when the king confirmed the pardon. (fn. 26) Simon de Drayton died in 1357, when the manor was said to be held of Christiana de Lindsey by the rent of one gilt spur. (fn. 27) Margaret died in the following year, when the manor was returned as held of William de Lindsey. (fn. 28) Both these returns as to the superior lord are clearly out of date. On the death of Margaret the manor reverted to the daughters and heirs of Gilbert de Lindsey, or their representatives, namely his daughter, Christiana, who had married her first cousin, John de Drayton, son of Simon de Drayton and Margaret, and Thomas Dacre, son of his other daughter, Isabel. (fn. 29) Christiana sold her moiety of the manor and advowson in 1360 to Simon Simeon of Gosberkirk (Lincs), (fn. 30) who with his wife Elizabeth (daughter of Sir Gilbert de Neville) settled the manor in 1377 and in 1386, (fn. 31) and died without issue in 1387.

Source: 'Parishes: Molesworth', in A History of the County of Huntingdon: Volume 3, ed. William Page, Granville Proby and S Inskip Ladds (London, 1936), pp. 92-96. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hunts/vol3/pp92-96 [accessed 23 September 2023].

Notes

Norman Settlement: lll. - Barony of Kendal.

Gilbert FitzReinfrid and Helwise, his wife, had one son, William, who took his mother's name and called himself William de Lancaster; he married Agnes de Brus, and died without issue. He had three sisters: Helwise, who married Peter de Brus of Skelton; Alice, who married William de Lindesay, and Serota, who married Alan de Multon, and dying without issue goes out of the story. The barony of Kendal was thus early divided into two moieties, one of which was " heired " by the De Bruses and the other by the De Lindesays. The descent of these moieties we must now briefly trace, leaving the curious in the minutiae of pedigrees to refer for further information to Nicolson and Bum, or Hodgson. The moiety inherited by the elder sister, Helwise, became presently further subdivided into two quarters, known for reasons which will appear presently as the Marquis and Lumley Fees. The moiety inherited by the younger sister, Alice, remained more entire, and acquired the name of the Richmond Fee ; we will take it first.

Alice de Lancaster married William Lindesay, and carried her moiety into that family; including her husband, four De Lindesays in direct succession enjoyed it, the last of whom, also named William, left an only daughter, Christian, married to an alien, Ingelram de Guisnes, Lord of Coucy in France ; by him she had two sons: William the elder, born in France, and therefore an alien incapable of inheriting landed estates in England; and Ingelram the younger, born in England, but who died without issue; this moiety of the barony of Kendal therefore escheated to the Crown.

Source: Ferguson’s “… A History of Westmorland (1894), page 118-119. < Archive.Org >

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  • Walter, while still a minor aged 16, was returned as co-heir of his uncle William de Lancaster, Baron of Kendal, in 1246. (fn. 18) He was heavily burdened with the debts of his uncle, William de Lancaster, and died in 1271, leaving William, his son and heir, aged 21 years, (fn. 19) and a widow Christiana, who held dower in 1282. (fn. 20) William married in 1266 Ada, daughter of John de Balliol, and died in 1282, leaving a daughter, Christiana, wife of Ingram de Gynes. (fn. 21) William seems to have settled Molesworth on his brother, Gilbert de Lindsey, who in 1279 is said to have held the manor of William de Lindsey for the rent of a pair of gilt spurs or 6d., and he of William de Brus by foreign service, and he of Robert de Brus. (fn. 22) In 1286, however, Ada, widow of William de Lindsey, claimed dower. (fn. 23)
    • 18. Farrer, op. cit. 378–9.
    • 19. Cal. Inq. Hen. III, no. 820.
    • 20. Cal. Inq. ii, no. 447.
    • 21. Farrer, op. cit. 379.
    • 22. Rot. Hund. (Rec. Com.), ii, 618.
    • 23. Assize R. 348, m. 6.

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