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Also Known As: "Widow of Swain", "wife de Vesci", "Veceio", "Matilda"
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Birthplace: Silkstone, South Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Death: 1159 (55-65)
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Wife of Swaine fitz Alaric and Hervey de Vesci
Mother of Richard fitz Swaine, of Swillington and Adam fitz Swain

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About wife of Hervey de Vesci

Could not have been the daughter of Lady Alda de Vesci who died in childbirth with the single child Baroness Beatrix de Vesci

Ref: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm


In relation to Hervey de Vesci marrying the widow of Adam Fitzswein whereupon he had to pay a 10 shilling fine to the King:-

Notes and Queries 6th Series Volume VII of January 20, 1883 states that:

“Hervey De Vesci – Hervey (Nephew of Ivo and grandson of Robert de Vesci) is mentioned by the Viscount of Westmorland in the Pipe Roll 31 Hen. I. As his name does not again occur in that form in the records of the counties of Westmorland or Cumberland..."

It would appear that Hervey de Vesci may have been the grandson of Robert de Vesci and not his son.


https://cybergata.com/roots/2166.htm

• Background Information. 936
A portion of Wennington, Farleton and Tunstall, formed the estate of Swain fitz Alreic, togehter with other large estates in Cumberland and Yorkshire, presumably by grant from Henry I. He was a benefactor to the Priories of Pontefract and Nostel, and died before 1130, at which date his widow had been married to Hervey de Veceio [Pipe Rolls, 32 Henry I]. His son and heir was Adam Fitz Swain, who founded the Priory of monk-Bretton, and died before 1159 [Pipe Roll, 5 Henry II].

~William Farrer, Lancaster Chirographs, or Feet of Fines, p. 57

Genealogy

From https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntdk.htm#AmabelMWilliamNeville

FITZSWEIN

  • 1. AILRIC . m ---. The name of Ailric’s wife is not known. Ailric & his wife had one child:
    • a) SWEIN . "Swanus filius Ailrich" donated land and "capellam de Calthorn" to "ecclesiam de Silkistuna" by undated charter[754]. m ---. The name of Swein’s wife is not known. Swein & his wife had three children:
      • i) ADAM FitzSwein (-1159). The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Adam fil Sueini" in Yorkshire, Northumberland[755]. "Adam filius Suwani" confirmed the donation to St Bees made by "Mahald uxor Godardi" by undated charter[756]. "Adam filius Suani" confirmed "ecclesiam de Silkistuna" to Pontefract by undated charter, dated to [1154], witnessed by "…Henrico fratre meo…"[757]. A charter of King Henry II records donations to York St Mary, including the donation of “heremum S. Andreæ” by “Adam filius Suani”[758]. "Adam filius Suani" confirmed the foundation of "sancte Marie Magdalene de Lunda" by undated charter, dated to [1158][759]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "hæredes Adæ filii Swein" held one knight’s fee "de feodo de Sciptone" in Yorkshire[760]. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Rogerus de Monte Begonis, Simon filius Walteri, Alexander de Nevill" held land which was from "Willelmi de Nevill" in Cumberland, which King Henry I had granted to "Ade filio Swein, antecessori predictorum"[761]. m ---. The name of Adam’s wife is not known. Adam & his wife had two children:
        • (a) AMABEL . Her parentage and first marriage are indicated by the undated charter under which [her husband] “Alexander de Creuequer” donated "molendinum meum de Culgait" to Wetherhal priory[762] and another undated charter [her supposed father] “Adam filius Suani” also donated "molendinum meum de Culgait" to Wetherhal[763]. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Rogerus de Monte Begonis, Simon filius Walteri, Alexander de Nevill" held land which was from "Willelmi de Nevill" in Cumberland, which King Henry I had granted to "Ade filio Swein, antecessori predictorum"[764]. m firstly [as his second wife,] ALEXANDER de Crèvecœur, son of RENAUD de Crèvecœur & his wife Matilda --- (-before 1204). m secondly WILLIAM de Neville, son of --- (-after 1212).
        • (b) MATILDA . The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Rogerus de Monte Begonis, Simon filius Walteri, Alexander de Nevill" held land which was from "Willelmi de Nevill" in Cumberland, which King Henry I had granted to "Ade filio Swein, antecessori predictorum"[765]. m firstly ADAM de Montbegon, son of --- (-[1171]). “Adam de Mundegame” donated "molendinum de Culgaid" to Wetherhal priory by undated charter, witnessed by "…Symone de Cruaqr…"[766]. “Alexander de Creuequer” donated land "in Culgait" to Wetherhal priory by undated charter, witnessed by "Adam de Mortegeg, Warino, Symone de Creuequer…"[767]. "R[oberti]. de Monte Begonis" confirmed possessions of "ecclesiam de Silkestona" as donated by "A. filio Suani" by undated charter, dated to before 1197[768]. m secondly GERARD de Glanville, son of ---.
      • ii) HENRY FitzSwein (-after [1154]). "Adam filius Suani" confirmed "ecclesiam de Silkistuna" to Pontefract by undated charter, dated to [1154], witnessed by "…Henrico fratre meo…"[769]. “Adam filius Suani” donated "molendinum meum de Culgait" to Wetherhal by undated charter witnessed by "…Henrico fratre meo…"[770].
      • iii) RICHARD FitzSwein (-after [1180]). "Ricardus filius Swani" granted concessions to the monks of Pontefract relating to "prato de Wixstalker" to "ecclesiam de Silkistuna" by undated charter[771]. "Ricardus filius Swani" confirmed the grant of "pratum de Wixstalker in villa de Swinlingtona" to "Willelmo filio Hervei" by undated charter, dated to [1180][772].
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Silkstone, South Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
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West Yorkshire, England
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Worsbrough Manor, Yorkshire, England
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