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Csaba / Choba prince,son of Athila took part in the "battle of Kriemhild" in 142 ( according to Seleykid aera in 454 ),and then having been defeatd by germans moved to Greece to his maternal grandfather or rather uncle,Honorius,who died in 147 ( according to Arshakeni counting in 423 ),and then back to Skythia again. His name corresponds to that of Toba Huallpa inca ruling in Huilkapampa for a couple of years or so after the devastation of Inka Empire of Kosko about 146,what is 1495/1533 according to spaniards ( just like for example the dialectiacal deifffernce in the pronounciation of the wors tunka or chunka ). Chaba begot two sons after all this called Ed and Edumen who became chiefs of komans descending from Manko Inka anyway,and finally returned into Pannonia together with some ruthens and turks some years later driven out from the Andes by the spanish,about 173 ( 896 according to roman aera that began in 723 b.c.,and 1238 according to british counting from 1065 b.c. all equal to "1522/1560").

Huil-ka-Pampa itself might have very likely been founded by descent of Pamphylos ( Pampa-Huil ) son of Aigimios king of dórs,of whom pampa and huili tribes in Patagonia come. These events might have been the occasion toba and inka-nabacte people appeared near Gran Chaco.

His counterpart in the mentioned battle was Aldrian / Aladarius alias Durik or Ort (b)lieb,son of Athila to Kriemhild. Name Ortlieb can be derived from that of Atahuallpa / Atabaliba this way : Or-Ata-(Ba)- Lib. He seemingly was not - like popular for germans Nibelunglied claims - slaughtered together with everyone else at the visit of burgundians in Etzelburg in 124,but survived and ruled in ancient Skythia until his alleged death at about his age of 33 or so - and then seemingly somewhen after Halarik even at wesigoths in Spain for some years under the german name Athaulph. Wesigoths under Thaiwudi (Theoderik ) are called toba or tabgach ( tob'-gotsh ) in inner parts of Asia. He also seems to be identical with Elterish ( Aldariush ) king of Asian turks who died in 145 ( counting from Dareios in 691).

Athila's brother-in-law through Gudrun was Giselrik - alias Gisel-Herr - son of Godigiskl,king of wandals from about 116 until 165 ( 428 and 477 of Seleykid aera ),who was contremporane to Halarik elected king of goths from131( Arshakeni 407) for some 15 or less years. Another sibling of theirs was Pilgerim who served as episcope in Passau from about 113 until 133 ( 971 and 991 according to greek counting beginning in 858 b.c. ) and thus became a mediate witness of the events in Etzelburg.

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