internet resources

Yes, thank you, Brendan, and all servicemen and veterans the world around, living and dead, who fought for freedom and liberty for all.

https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Lower_Norfolk_County,_Virginia

Lower Norfolk was a county, now extinct, in seventeenth-century Virginia. This website has information about the extinct county and a list of resources for researching that county. The site was put together by LDS and is a beta wiki using their extensive files.

https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Lower_Norfolk_County,_Virginia

Lower Norfolk was a county, now extinct, in seventeenth-century Virginia. This website has information about the extinct county and a list of resources for researching that county. The site was put together by LDS and is a beta wiki using their extensive files.

http://www.progenealogists.com/colonialwitches.htm
Lists accused witches, dates, location and outcomes. Lower on the page is a section called "Misidentified, Unconfirmed, and “Phantom” Witches," a list of people who appear on various lists of Colonial American witches, but a closer review of current literature suggests that there is no proof that formal charges were ever filed against them.

http://sources.nli.ie/
Databases at the National Library of ireland

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Searchable records at National Archives in London

http://www.learnnc.org/nchistory/

North Carolina History: A Digital Textbook

Primary sources, multimedia, readings, and lesson plans to tell the many stories of North Carolina's past.

Pages link to original documents at the University of North Carolina archives.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/
UK and Ireland Genealogy

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/dorcassavage1833.htm
Saint John, N.B. Customs House Passenger Lists 1815, 1832, 1833-1834 & 1837-1838

http://ukcc.uky.edu/vitalrec/
Kentucky vital records

http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0&next=/html/obi...
Cleveland Ohio Necrology FIles

Thanks to Shari Jo Bruce for bringing up this resource:

http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search/?Tab_ID=1

Ancestor search:

The Ancestor Database contains the names of Revolutionary War Patriots whose service and identity have been established by the NSDAR. Included is information on the dates and places of birth and death, names of spouses, residence during the Revolution, rank and type of service, and the state where the patriot served.

The Ancestor Database also includes some previously established patriots whose lines are currently closed to new members. The lines were closed because it was subsequently determined that the person could not have performed the service attributed to them. These persons are displayed with the notice “Future Applicants must prove correct service” or “Ancestor and/or lineage in error”.

EH -- Would you class DAR as primary source?

Applications for DAR membership have to include primary resources to prove they were descendents of Rev. War. veterans. I ordered the records from 1925 of a cousin who applied for membership using my 4th great-grandfather's service (her great-grandfather). It provided a wealth of information on not only him, but also his family.

MEZ,

I would consider the DAR Ancestor # to be the appropriate reference to the primary source documents collected in the DAR register (that you need to pay for). So no, not a primary source.

In fact, DAR is verification of ancestry, so not sure you could consider *their* validation a primary source either. The primary sources for a Revolutionary War ancestor would be images of his pension records, muster rosters, original affidavits, land grants for service, etc.

Heritage Quest has a "Revolutionary War" section that includes many actual images of pension applications, usually about 6 pages each. The applications contain the stories of veterans' service in detail. Heritage Quest is available for free at many libraries.

One of my distant cousins is DAR. It is her research that got my cousin started on genealogy. And then my first cousin tracked me down and got me started. What I find interesting in your original post about the DAR is that they annotate their own records when lineage is disputed.

London marriage licences, 1521-1869 By Joseph Lemuel Chester, John Ward Dean
downloadable as a PDF from Google Books.

http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1

Search for burial locations of veterans and their family members in Veterans Association National Cemeteries, state veterans cemeteries, various other military and Department of Interior cemeteries, and for veterans buried in private cemeteries when the grave is marked with a government grave marker.

The Nationwide Gravesite Locator includes burial records from many sources. These sources provide varied data; some searches may contain less information than others. Information on veterans buried in private cemeteries was collected for the purpose of furnishing government grave markers, and we do not have information available for burials prior to 1997.

http://www.stirnet.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=v...
Complete ONE-PAGE list of kings of England post-conquest

http://www.stirnet.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=v...
Complete list of Scottish Kings "pre-competition"

http://www.stirnet.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=v...
Kings of Scotland post-competition

Just found a terrific way to access old books over the internet.

http://www.genealogybooklinks.com/default.htm

.. simplies searching for our ancestors by identifying and linking to the freely available digitized American biographies, genealogies and history books ...

Contributing sources include the Internet Archives, Google Books, Library of Congress, US Gen Net, and Hathitrust.

http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/index.html

From their introduction:

One of the major drawbacks of traditional printed-on-paper peerages such as Burke's Peerage or Debrett's Peerage is that they quickly become out of date, especially when published once every few years or so.

We hope to avoid this with Cracroft's Peerage by issuing several updates each year, containing not only updated information but also new and additional information.

Would love feedback on the accuracy of the site from people.

Today I was over at the Lynnfield Gen. Room. Turns out the Gen. Soc. was having there monthly meeting and this was the subject they were going to be speaking on. Unfortunately I had to head home so I couldn't go. Gona see if I can get a copy of what was discused. Haven't joined yet but they don't care if you join or not. You can just come. Must remember when the next meeting is and go and join.

Maybe they can send you email reminders of the meetings? That would be great Judith. You know what -- we should start a new discussion about "evaluating sources."

EH - re: Cracroft site -- MUCH harder to navigate than thepeerage.com. To find someone on Cracroft you have to know their title. To find someone on thepeerage.com, you need a surname, it has a easy to use index to search by surname. Both are updated frequently. I have seen a great number of 2010 rev. dates on thepeerage.

I did a couple side-by-sides to compare information. thepeerage.com puts its sources at the end of each entry. Cracrot's are buried. Both sites hyperlink to others mentioned in the profile if the site has further information on that person.

One interesting and useful features of Cracroft is a list all Prime Ministers from 1721 to today. EH, it's a project waiting for you!

All in all, I will continue to rely on thepeerage.com as my first choice, and use Cracroft if I know someone's title, as an additional source.

I'm glad you detailed the differences.

1. The Peerage is good for individual name search
2. Cracroft is good for searching by title / honor held

I'm not doing Prime Ministers of England, they're not my ancestors. I will leave that to someone English. :) I am involved in PRIOR to 1721 English / Irish / Scots.

I did start Projects for the office holders of High Sheriff of Lancaster and High Sheriff of Cheshire to 1850, as I have ancestors among them.

I'm hoping others will start similar projects for their ancestors in the other counties.

That's a good idea. I always forget about the meetings. Then when I'm heading to cousin's house in Lynnfield I always say wonder when that meeting gona be. I'll double check in the Gen. room,it's always posted there,the next time I'm over there. Hopefully they'll be next Friday. love that gen. Room! The one in Wakefield is nice too. Neither one of them make you sign in or show an ID. In Saugus they they practically make you give them your 1st born for colloidal! But they are not as bad as Kittery. They take everything away from you and give you a little piece of paper. Can't even have a note book.! Then when you finally get into it there's hardly anything there. Plymouth , Mass is another nice one. So isn't Portsmouth,N.H. and the one in Rye is good too, not too big but it's nice. Same thing with the Fed Vitals and State Vitals in Mass. Fed. ones are nice to go to. Been too a lot of them over the years. You do have to leave everything in a locker but you can take paper and pencil in with you. State ones much more expensive and rude. beleave it or not the gentleman there ,who gets the books made me cry, if you can beleave that. Never went back. Probably will have to give in and go back some time. Judy

I'm going to try to take a trip over to Lynnfield and pick up the Hist. Soc. phone number and call them. See if there's a meeting in Dec. Might not because of the holidays!I have to get my membership in.They are nice group.

EH, I am currently working on a Cheshire family. I think one may have been a sheriff. I"ll take a peek at your project and let you know.

"The final rolls of citizens and freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes" is a book published by the United States Commission to the Five Tribes.

I found it on Google but it is available on Amazon.com. It's not out of copyright, so I couldn't download a pdf. The original 1907 version has a $2000 price tag. Hopefully some of the libraries with good genealogy departments will also have it. There have been several recent reprints that sell for $125.

The book gives the name, age in 1902, sex, degree of Indian blood and census reference for each entry. The Five Tribes are Choctaw, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Seminole and Creek.

I will add this book as a resource to the various Native American project that cover the Five Tribes.