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Adèle Alice, Alix de Vermandois, gravin van Vlaanderen

Also Known As: "Alice", "Aleidis", "Adela", "Aelis", "Alix", "Adèle", "Adelheid", "van Vloandern", "van Vlaanderen", "de Flandres", "of Flanders", "von Flandern", "Alix de Vermandois", "a Carolingian as well as a Robertian Frankish noblewoman who was the Countess of Flanders"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Comté de Vermandois (Present Département de l'Aisne), (Present région Picardie), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (Present France)
Death: Died in Bruges, Comté de Flandre (Present West Vlaanderen), (Present Gewest Vlaanderen), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (within present Belgium)
Place of Burial: Abbaye de St Pierre, Ghent, Flemish Region, Belgium
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Héribert II, count of Vermandois and Adèle de France
Wife of Arnoul I the Great, count of Flanders
Mother of Luitgard van Vlaanderen; Wickmann (Wieman) Ist Count De Gand (Gaunt); Boudewijn III, graaf van Vlaanderen; Egbert van Vlaanderen; Elstrude, countess of Flanders and 3 others
Sister of Robert de Vermandois, comte de Meaux et de Troyes; Eudes, count of Vienne & Amiens; Heribert III "le Vieux", Comte d'Omois, Comte de Meaux et Troyes; Albert I, comte de Vermandois; Hughes de Vermandois, Archevêque de Reims and 8 others
Half sister of Comte Renaud [Raimond] ROUCY, de Reimes

Occupation: Hertiginna, Gravin
Managed by: Sally Gene Cole
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About Adelaide, Alice, Alix, countess of Vermandois

  • nl.wikipedia.org - Aleidis van Vermandois.... ;
  • Adela (Adèle, Alix) de Vermandois,
  • wife of Arnoul the Great (the Old)
  • Spouse: Arnulf I 'den Grôotn' van Vloandern (Arnoul 'le Grand' de Flandre)
  • Parents: Heribert de Vermandois & Liegarde
  • Children:

1. Luitgard 2. Baudouin III 3. Egbert 4.Elstrude, married Siegfred

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Adele of Vermandois in Wikipedia English

MEDIEVAL LANDS

ADELA de Vermandois ([915]-[Bruges 10 Oct] 960, bur Ghent, St Pieter). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Adelam, domni Heriberti comitis filiam" as wife of "comes Arnulfus", specifying that she was "duorum Francorum regum, Odonis atque Rotberti, neptem"[1300]. Flodoard refers to the wife of "Arnoul" as sister of "Hugo [de Vermandois Archbishop of Reims]"[1301]. Her marriage was arranged to seal the alliance made in 934 between her father and her future husband[1302]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea…Adala atque…filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[1303]. "Adhela comitissa" freed two serfs and granted them to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "fidelis nostri Amalrici", by charter dated 8 Sep 954, signed by "Balduini comitis…Odacri advocati"[1304]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 960 of "Adala comitissa"[1305].

m (934) as his second wife, ARNOUL I "le Grand" Count of Flanders, son of BAUDOUIN II "le Chauve" Count of Flanders & his wife Ælfthryth of Wessex ([885/890]-murdered 27 Mar 964, bur Ghent, St Pieter). -------------------- Children 1. Count Baudouin III De FLANDERS, b. Abt 930, Flanders, Belgium , d. 1 Nov 962

2. Elstrude De FLANDERS, b. Abt 932, Flanders, Belgium , d. Between 937 and 1036

3. Count Arnold of FLEMING, b. Abt 940, Flanders, Belgium, Netherlands , d. 30 Mar 987, Gent, Flandre-Orientale, Belgium, Netherlands

4. Countess Ledgarde De Flanders of GAND, b. Abt 941, Flanders, Belgium , d. 29 Sep 964 -------------------- WIKIPEDIA (Eng) Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 and had four children:

   * Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent
   * Egbert, died 953
   * Baldwin III of Flanders
   * Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes

Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family. ----------------------- Neustria The territory of Neustria originated in A.D. 511, made up of the regions from Aquitaine to the northern seacoast approximating most of the north of present-day France. The two main cities were Paris and Soissons. Previously, Neustria was the western part of the kingdom of the Franks during the sixth to eighth centuries under the rule of the Merovingians. The distinct area originated at the time of the death of Clovis I (reigned 482-511) when his lands were divided between his sons.

The constant re-divisions by his offspring resulted in many rivalries that, for more than two hundred years, kept Neustria in almost constant warfare with Austrasia, the eastern portion of the Frankish kingdom.

Despite the wars, Neustria and Austrasia were only reunited briefly on a few occasions, the first time by Clotaire I during his reign from 558 to 562. The struggle for power continued with the widow of King Chilperic I (reigned 566-584) when a bitter war was led by Queen Fredegund of Neustria, mother of the new king Clotaire II (reigned 584-628).

After his mother's passing and burial in Saint Denis Basilica in Paris (597), Clotaire II continued the struggle against Queen Brunhild of Austrasia (d. 613) and was victorious, but only for a short time. Finally under Dagobert I (reigned 628-637) the ongoing generational war resulted in another temporary unification but by then the authority of the warring kings began to decline as the mayors of the palace rose to prominence.

In 687, Pippin of Herstal, mayor of the palace of the king of Austrasia, defeated the tenacious Neustrians at Tertry and united Austrasia and Neustria.

Pippin's descendants, the Carolingians, continued to rule the two realms as mayors. With the Pope's blessing, after 751 the Carolingian Mayor of the Palace, Pippin the Short, formally deposed the Merovingians and took control of the empire, he and his descendants ruling as kings.

Neustria, Austrasia, and Burgundy were then united under one authority and the names Neustria and Austrasia gradually disappeared. -------------------- Aleidis van Vermandois (910 - Brugge, 10 oktober 958) was een dochter van Herbert II van Vermandois en van Adelheid van Frankrijk.

In 934 werd zij (vermoedelijk de tweede) echtgenote van graaf Arnulf I van Vlaanderen. Het paar kreeg volgende kinderen:

Odo I, graaf van Kamerijk Elftrude (geboren in 935), in 950 gehuwd met Siegfried I van Guines Hildegard (935 - 10 april 990), in 945 gehuwd met Dirk II, graaf van West-Friesland, Egbert (937 - 10 juli 953) Boudewijn III Luidgard (941 - 29 september 964), in 955 gehuwd met Wichman II, graaf van Hamaland.

-------------------- From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps05/ps05_061.htm

Alix (or Adele) may be daughter of Herbert II and another wife, Hildebrante of Neustria.

References: [RFC],[MRL],[WallopFH] -------------------- From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Flanders: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#_Toc212185309

m [secondly] (934) ADELA de Vermandois, daughter of HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois [Carolingian] & his wife Adela [Capet] ([915]-[Bruges 10 Oct] 960, bur Gent, St Pieter).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Adelam, domni Heriberti comitis filiam" as wife of "comes Arnulfus", specifying that she was "duorum Francorum regum, Odonis atque Rotberti, neptem"[116].

"Adala coniunx Arnulfi" is named in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[117]. The Annales Elnonenses Minores records the marriage [undated between 931 and 949] of "Arnulfus" and "Adelam, filiam Heriberti Vermandorum comitis"[118].

Her marriage was arranged to seal the alliance made in 934 between her father and her future husband[119]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea…Adala atque…filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[120].

"Adhela comitissa" freed two serfs and granted them to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "fidelis nostri Amalrici", by charter dated 8 Sep 954, signed by "Balduini comitis…Odacri advocati"[121].

The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 960 of "Adala comitissa"[122].

Count Arnoul I and his second wife had four children: 1. Liutgard de Flandre (935 to 962, before Oct 18) 2. Baudouin de Flandres (935/940 to 1 Jan 962, b. Abbey of St. Bertin, OUR ANCESTOR). 3. Egbert de Flandre (d. before 10 July 953) 4. Elstrude de Flandre (d. 966 or after)

From the Celtic Casimir online family tree: http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/3/5474.htm

Adaele (Alice, Alix) DE VERMANDOIS Born: Abt 910-915, Vermandois, Neustria Married: Apr 932, Flanders, Belgium Died: 10 Oct 960, Bruges, Belgium Buried: Abbaye De St Pierre, Gand, Flandres Ancestral File Number: 9G82-Q5.

Marriage Information: Adaele married Comte Arnolf (Arnulph) I "the Elder" DE FLANDRES et Artois, son of Comte Baudouin (Baldwin) II "The Bald" DE FLANDRES and Жfthryр (Elfridam) DE WESSEX Princess of Wessex, in Apr 932 in Flanders, Belgium. (Comte Arnolf (Arnulph) I "the Elder" DE FLANDRES et Artois was born in 889 in Flanders and died on 27 Mar 964.)

From the Wikipedia entry on Adele of Vermandois: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Vermandois http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleidis_van_Vermandois

Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 (presumably his second wife) and had four children:

1. Luitgard (935 to 29 September 964), married Wichmann, Count of Ghent in 955. 2. Egbert, died 10 July 953 3. Baldwin III of Flanders 935 or 940 to 1 January 962. 4. Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes (died after 965), married Siegfried de Gulnes in 950.

Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family. -------------------- Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 and had four children:

Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent Egbert, died 953 Baldwin III of Flanders Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family. -------------------- Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 and had four children:

Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent Egbert, died 953 Baldwin III of Flanders Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family. -------------------- Arnulf I "The Old" of FLANDERS Count of Flanders [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 was born 890 in , Flanders, Belgium. He died 27 Mar 964 in , Flanders, Belgium. Arnulf married Alix de VERMANDOIS on 934 in , Flanders, Belgium.

Alix de VERMANDOIS [Parents] 1, 2, 3 was born 918 in Vermandois, Normandie, France. She died 10 Oct 960 in Brugge, West Flanders, Belgium. Alix married Arnulf I "The Old" of FLANDERS Count of Flanders on 934 in , Flanders, Belgium.

They had the following children:

     		M 	i 	Baldwin III of FLANDERS Count of Flanders was born 935 and died 1 Jan 962.
     		F 	ii 	Liutgard of FLANDERS was born 937 and died 29 Sep 964.
     		F 	iii 	Hildegarde of FLANDERS was born 939 and died 10 Apr 990.
     		M 	iv 	Heribert of FLANDERS 1 was born 941 in , Flanders, Belgium.
     		F 	v 	Elftrude of FLANDERS was born 943.

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Another name for Adele was Alice. She was a Countess of Vermandois

Adela de Vermandois is the daughter of Heribert II, Comte de Vermandois and Liégarde de France.

-------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Vermandois

descended from Charlemagne: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Adele of Vermandois (910-960), daughter of Herbert II Count Vermandois and his first wife Adela de France Marriage and descent [ edit ]

In 934, she married Arnold I, er , son of Baldwin II of Flanders and Elftrude of Wessex (in) (or Elfrida, or Ælfthryth). They had 5 children:

   * Elftrude was born circa 932, married in 964 to Siegfried († 965), Lord of Guines . They had two children:
         o Ardolf I of Guines (° v.966-ap.996)
         o Hawise de Guines (c. 958 -?)
   * Hildegarde (934 † 990), married 943 to Thierry II of Holland (or Dirk II of Holland) (930 † 988), Count of West Friesland . They had three children:
         o Arnould (° Ghent 951 - † 993), Count of Friesland
         o Egbert (951 - † 993), Imperial Chancellor and Archbishop of Trier
         o Herlinde (° 953 - 1012), abbess of Egmont and Bennebrock
   * Egbert (937 † 953)
   * Lutgarde (938 † 964), married in 950 to Wichmann II Count Hamaland and Ghent. They had four children:
         o Theodoric I of Ghent (AD 950 -?), Count of Ghent
         o Wichmann Ghent (ap. 951 -?)
         o Adele of Ghent (c. 955 -1017)
         o Lutgarde of Ghent (c. 950 -?)
   * Baldwin III (940 † 962), count of Flanders, married to Matilda of Saxony . They had 2 children:
         o Arnulf II of Flanders (c. 941 - March 30, 987)
         o Bertha of Flanders (v.1008-1034)

Among his descendants are found Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England , it is therefore among the ancestors of the British royal family. -------------------- Hildegard's mother

Partner of Arnoul

[m firstly ---. Both Rösch[114] and Europäische Stammtafeln[115] state that Count Arnoul had another wife before marrying Adela de Vermandois.

No evidence has been found concerning this supposed first marriage. However, as discussed below, the estimated birth date of Arnoul´s supposed daughter Hildegard, as well as his own advanced age when he married Adela de Vermandois, both suggest an earlier marriage. Although logic points to such a first marriage, doubt remains. The genealogical traces of this family are well marked in numerous contemporary sources. It is difficult to imagine that all of such sources would have ignored an earlier marriage of Comte Arnoul, who was such a prominent figure in his day.]

-------------------- Leo: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von, Reference: Page 9.

Leo: Caroli Magni Progenies, Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977 , Rösch, Siegfried, Reference: 124.

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Adelaide, Alice, Alix, countess of Vermandois's Timeline

910
910
Comté de Vermandois (Present Département de l'Aisne), (Present région Picardie), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (Present France)
920
920
Age 10
932
932
Age 22
934
934
Age 24
Comté de Flandre (Present West Vlaanderen), (Present Gewest Vlaanderen), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (within present Belgium)
935
935
Age 25
Ghent, (Present Provinsje Ôost-Vloandern), Flanders (Present Vlams Gewest), (Present Belgium)
937
937
Age 27
Flanders,Nord,France
940
940
Age 30
Vlaanderen
945
945
Age 35
West-Vlaanderen, Vlaams Gewest, Belgie
960
October 10, 960
Age 50
Bruges, Comté de Flandre (Present West Vlaanderen), (Present Gewest Vlaanderen), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (within present Belgium)
960
Age 50
Ghent, Flemish Region, Belgium