Lady Elizabeth Denman

NOT the wife of Sir Ralph Dunham.

Ralph Denman was the son of Nicholas of East Retford, Esq., Ralph married Elizabeth daughter of "Golden" Thomas Wentworth.

Children:

• his heir was Nicholas Denman (m. Ellen, daughter of Ralph Beeston). His other known children were
• 2. Thomas Denman of London (m. first Alice daughter of William Heneage; married secondly the widow Alice [Unknown] Allpoole),
• 3. Ralph Denman, Jr., and
• 4. Brian Denman.

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Notes

Caution - fraudulent pedigree in circulation. Fact: "Ralph DUNHAM" never existed in reality. There is no one by that name on either the Wentworth or Dunham published pedigrees. And her husband was specifically identified as "Ralph DENMAN of Newhall Grange". The Denman family did indeed at times hold Newhall Grange, in Yorkshire (in addition to Tickhill and numerous other properties).

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/9njNYuYgXoU

“the wife of Ralph or Raffe Dunham/Denham (but remember the name Denham can be equivalent to Dinham, a completely different family), belonged to the family of Wentworth of Wentworth-Woodhouse, and was married by 1530. She would be born possibly about 1505-10, and therefore could not have been mother of a fictional person named Thomas Dunham born in 1560 or 1556.”

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• The Wentworth genealogy, comprising the origin of the name, the family in England, and a particular account of Elder William Wentworth, the emigrant, and of his descendants (1870)
• https://archive.org/details/wentworthgenealo01inwent
• http://www.archive.org/stream/wentworthgenealo01inwent#page/n162/mo...
• Pg.11
• (18) William Wentworth, Esq., married, 1460-1, Isabel, daughter of Sir Richard Fitzwilliams, of Aldwarke, in Yorkshire, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Thomas Clarell of the same place, and had issue, Thomas, Ralphe, George, William, and Elizabeth. The latter married, first, Thomas Lea, Esq., of Middleton, and secondly, Henry Arthington, Esq. Of the three younger sons, there is no record save of their names. The father died in 1477, and the line was continued by the eldest son—
• (19) Sir Thomas Wentworth, who was knighted for his bravery at the battle of Spurs, 16 August, 1513. It will be seen that down to this period, the successors to the estate of Wentworth-Woodhouse were almost invariably only sons, and as invariably married heiresses or co-heiresses.
• By this, time, therefore, the wealth of this family had become enormous, as may be judged by the fact, that this Sir Thomas bore the sobriquet of "Golden Thomas." He paid at one time a heavy fine to be excused from accepting the Order of the Bath, and in 1528 abtained a license* from Henry VIII. to remain covered in the
• http://www.archive.org/stream/wentworthgenealo01inwent#page/n164/mo...
• Pg.12
• royal presence. The reason alleged was his infirmity arising from old age. But, as he lived twenty years longer, (he died 5 Dec., 1548,) the presumption is, that the license was purchased at a great price for the purpose of gratifying a whim or some feeling of personal pride. He married Beatrix, daughter of Sir Richard Woodruff, Kt., of Woolley, in Yorkshire, and widow of John Drax, Esq., of Woodhull, by whom he had five sons and three daughters, viz: William, Gervase, Michael, Thomas, Bryan, Elizabeth, Isabel, and Beatrice.
• .... etc.
• .... Of the three daughters of Sir Thomas and Lady Beatrix, Elizabeth married Ralph Denham, Esq., Isabel married Nicholas Wombwell, Esq., and Beatrice married Thomas Worrel, Esq.
• .... etc. __________________________
• Heraldic visitation of the northern counties in 1530 By Thomas Tonge, William Hylton Dyer Longstaffe
• http://books.google.com/books?id=swQVAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=J...
• Pg. 76
• WILLIAM, son and heyre of Thomas maryed Isabell, doughter of Syr Richard Fytzwillyam of Aldwerk: and by her had yssue, Thomas, son and heyre; Rauff, ijde son; George, iijde son; Elisabeth, maryed, furst to Thomas Lee, and after to Henry Ardyngton, esquier.
• THOMAS, son and heyre of Willyam, maryed Beatrix, doughter of Syr Richard Woderofe: and by her had yssue, Willyam, son and heyre; Mighell, ijde son; Thomas iijde son; Brian, iiijth son; Elisabeth, maried to Rauff [sic], esquier; Isabell, maried to Nicholas Woomwell, esquier; and Beatrix.
• WILLYAM, son and heyre to Thomas, maryed Kateryn, doughter to Syr Rauf Boston: and by her hath yssue, THOMAS, son and heyre; Margaret; and Meriell. __________________
• Pedigrees of the county families of Yorkshire (1874) Vol. 2
• http://archive.org/details/pedigreesofcount02fost
• http://archive.org/stream/pedigreesofcount02fost#page/n257/mode/2up
• http://archive.org/stream/pedigreesofcount02fost#page/n258/mode/1up
• Pedigree Chart - 4 pages
  • Wentworth of Wentworth Woodhouse, Earls of Strafford (Watson Wentworth, Marquess of Rockingham), Vernon Wentworth of Wentworth Castle, and Wentworth of Woolley.
• .... etc.
• SIR THOMAS WENTWORTH of Wentworth Woodhouse, son and heir, aged 26, 23 Henry VII., he paid £7, 10s. 5d. in part of a fine for refusing knighthood; 20 Henry VIII. he received the honour of Knighthood for his bravery at the battle of Spurs 16 Aug. 1513. From his great opulence he was styled GOLDEN THOMAS. In 1528 he obtained a licence from Henry VIII. to were his bonnet and be covered in the royal presence because he was infirm. Married before 13 June, 5 Henry VIII., died 5 Dec 1548, aged 70 years, will dated 21 August 1546, and proved 8 March 1548-9, buried at Wentworth, where there is a brass to his memory. The monumental inscriptions of the Wentworths in their chapel commence at this period. = BEATRIX, daughter of Sir Richard Woodruffe of Woolley, knight, and widow of John Drax, Esq., by Beatrice (2nd wife), daughter of Thomas Fitzwilliam of Mablethrope, co. Lincoln. ; ch: William (m. Catherine Beeston), 2. Gervase, 5. Bryan, Isabella (m. Nicholas Wombwell), Elizabeth (m. Ralph Denman (? Denham)), Beatrice (m. Thomas Worrall), Thomas (m. Grace Gascoigne), Michael (m. Beatrice or Isabel Whitley & Agnes __ ) Wentworth
  • ELIZABETH WENTWORTH, married to Ralph Denman (? Denham) of Newhall Grange.
  • .... etc. _________________________________
• ACCORDING TO OTHER SOURCES THESE ARE NOT THE CORRECT PARENTS FOR ELIZABETH
• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/WENTWORTH.htm#Elizabeth WENTWORTH5
• Elizabeth WENTWORTH
• Born: BET 1536, Nettlestead, Suffolk, England
• Died: ABT 1570, Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, England
• Father: Thomas WENTWORTH (1° B. Wentworth of Nettlestead)
• Mother: Margaret FORTESCUE (B. Wentworth of Nettlestead)
• Married: Ralph DUNHAM (Esq.) ABT 1556, Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, England
• Children:
  • 1. John DUNHAM
  • 2. Thomas DUNHAM (m. Jane Bromley) ___________________________
• Re Thomas Wentworth, we are descended twice from Thomas Wentworth, through his daughter Elizabeth to the Dumhams, and through his Daughter Mary who is accepted by the Mayflower Society to have married William Brewster, religous leader of the Pilgrims on the Mayflower. A marriage certificate for them has not been found. The Mayflower society has put up a monument to Elder William Brewster and his wife Mary Wentworth. Evidence rests upon the fact that they were descenter. She was born in the right place at the right time to have been married to him. Not all discenter marriages are registered in the Church of England.
• Source: Adrienne Anderson chart of Scandinavian Norman Descent of Hamblins ______________________
• ACCORDING TO OTHER SOURCES HER HUSBAND WAS Ralph Denham OR DUNHAM, Esq
• http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/WENTWORTH.htm#Elizabeth WENTWORTH1
• Elizabeth WENTWORTH
• Born: 1524, Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, England
• Father: Thomas "Golden Thomas" WENTWORTH (Sir Knight)
• Mother: Beatrice WOODRUFFE
• Married 1: John COCHE
• Married 2: Leonard MATHER ________________

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GEDCOM Note

!Father: Thomas Wentworth; Mother: Beatrice Woodruff

GEDCOM Note

Daughter of "Golden" Thomas Wentworth and wife of Ralph Denman, Sr. (son of Nicholas Denman of East Retford, Esq. and his first wife, Elizabeth Eyre). I made this duplicate for my ancestor, because her MP profile was incorrectly connected to "Ralph DUNham" of a completely different family (not a Denman/Denham).