Maria Elizabeth Erasmus, SM/PROG

Baptism 1693

Judi Marais -Meyer registe MRIN 403

Eie boedel MOOC8/4.47 ged. 4 Nov 1723

Sy laat haar man Pieter Erasmus en 6 kinders na.

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Staat ende inventaris mitsgaders taxatie der goederen van den wedunaer, Pieter Erasmus ten voordeele van hem selfs ter eener, ende desselfs ses kinderen

Erfgenamen desen boedel

Pieter Erasmus ter eener en

ses sijner kinderen met name

Erasmus Pieters Erasmus oud 25 jaar

Ester oud 20 jaar

Lourens oud 19 jaar

Catharina oud 18 jaar

Laris is oud 17 jaar en

Jacob Erasmus oud 16 jaar ter andere zijde

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Aldus geinventariseert en getaxeert, op de plaats genaemt de Groene Berg den 4:e Novemb:r 1723

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Mijn PE merk Pieter Erasmus

Erasmus Pieters Erasmus

[Inventories of the Orphan Chamber Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa Reference no.: MOOC8/4.47]

From http://www.e-family.co.za/remarkablewriting/PaiTimor.pdf by Mansell Upham

Page 17: By this time Iba presumably gives birth to a third daughter Maria Elisabeth van de Caab who later goes by the name Maria Elisabeth Jooste(n). Seven family members are enumerated (1682) in the census (Opgaaf): three extra members presumably being Iba’s daughters. Amsoeboe is now recorded as Paay Timorees.25 The latter name is later contracted to ‐ or erroneously [?] recorded as ‐ Moor26. His wife now appears as Ansela van Timor. The Netherlandized terms pa(a)ij and ma(a)ij are Portuguese for ‘father’ (pai) and ‘mother’ (mãe) commonly used as a term of respect throughout the colonial East Indies – also in the Dutch settlements – to address or refer to elderly Asian and African ‘blacks’. 28 Both words have been carried over into modern Afrikaans. Amsoeboe is not to be confused with the contemporary banished Muslim convict (bandiet) Miera / Mira / Mirra Moor van Ceylon.

• Page 33: Maria (Marritje) Elisabeth Jooste(n) born Cape, baptized Cape 8 February 1693

Syn deze onder geschrevene personne op hare voorgaende belijdenisse door het sacrement van den H:[eilige]e Doop Christi kerke ingelijfen Isaac van Bengalen met Catharina van Bengalen, Willemina van Mauritius met Catharina van Mauritius en de Maria Elizabeth van de Caab alle vrylieden alhier.

dies September 1723

• marries [no record] c. 1698

P(i)eter Rasmussen [Erasmus] (from Denmark) alias Pieter den Deen burgher 1691; farmer at Groenkoof [now Ovewacht, Bovlei](granted 28 February 1699 but registered 1714, Drakenstein (Wagenmakersvallei)

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http://upetd.up.ac.za/thesis/available/etd-10152004-071549/unrestri...
p33 indicates that she might be the sister of Frans Jooste SV/PROG
Reference Chapter 2 p 33 in the University of Pretoria Thesis (2003) by: Rossouw, T. (2003) Die Erasmusse van Garstfontein in Die Erasmuskasteel (1903) in Pretoria - 'n kultuurhistoriese studie (Afrikaans). retrieved from http://hdl.handle.net/2263/28714

8/9 February 1693

last entry bottom right

GEDCOM Note

Category:Cape of Good Hope ReadyCategory:Cape_of_Good_Hope_Project_Needs_Research

Biography

Notice ===:: <font color=red>In the past there might have been a conflation / confusion two Maria Elisabet Joost [van de Caep] profiles. One set of information suggests that she was an orphan girl from the Netherlands (primary sources are still needed to validate this suggestion), another suggests that she was from the Cape. Evidence for the last is much more clear. The baptism (for the Maria from the Cape) states van de Caep (= Cape Born) and slave at the time of baptism. This rules out the other Maria Elisabeth [Jooste?] orphan girl from the Netherlands. As no father or mother names are mentioned in the baptism (she must already been a young girl and not an infant as she is called a "person" and baptized with the name Maria Elisab[eth] van de Caep.

To avoid confusion with all the dozens of other Maria van de Caep profiles, and seeing that she
was known mostly by the name of Jooste, I suggest that we protect this profile with the last name of Jooste. I have changed the last name of birth of the [putative] father profile from Joosten-147 to the more patronymic version of Theunisz-16 as that was much more probable in that time (also used by that other authoratitivesource Delia Robertson (The First Fifty Years Project. http://e-family.co.za/ffy Page: Maria Elisabeth Jooste). </font> Van der Walt-440|Van der Walt-440 04:12, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

Name

:: Jooste, Maria Elisabeth (Stammoeder) <ref name=STEFAN/>
:: Suffix (Stammoeder) <ref name=STEFAN/>:: Martia Elisabeth Joost(e) <ref name=ARRIE>WikiTree profile Joost-2 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Klopper-13 | Arrie Klopper.</ref> / Maria Elizabeth Jooste <ref>Entered by Meyer-2493 | Pieter Meyer, Feb 11, 2013.</ref> Maria Elisabeth Jooste <ref name=SCHALK/><ref>Pieterse-13 | Esmé van der Westhuizen, 1 June 2015. Source: De Villiers, Christoffel Coetzee "Oude Kaapsche Familien" - A-J. Page No. 216</ref>:: Maria Elisabeth Jooste was also known as Maria Elisabeth van de Caep. <ref name=DEIL/>:: 20 November 1695 - Maria was written in the record as Maria Joostense. <ref name=DEIL/>:: Between 21 September 1698 and 25 October 1699, the name of Maria was written in the record as Marie Elizabet Jooste. <ref name=DEIL/>:: 24 January 1706, the name of Maria was written in the record as Maria Joosten. <ref name=DEIL>Source: Robertson, Delia. The FirstFifty Years Project. http://e-family.co.za/ffy Page: Maria Elisabeth Jooste. Seen and added by Van der Walt-440|Philip van der Walt Sep 2, 2017.</ref>

Birth ===:: Date: Maria Elizabeth {[Maria Joost <ref name=STEFAN/>] / [Maria Unknown<ref name=PIEN/>]} was born about 1676 <ref name=ANDREW/> / in 1676 <ref name=PIETER>Entered by Meyer-2493 | Pieter Meyer, Apr 18, 2013.</ref> before 1700 (Abt 1676)]. <ref name=STEFAN/> / about 1700. <ref name=PIEN>Pienaar-305 | Schalk Pienaar, Sunday, April 6, 2014.</ref>:: Place: Middelburgh, Nederland <ref name=ANDREW/> / Middelburg, Zeeland, Netherlands (find all individuals with events at this location) <ref name=STEFAN/> / circa 1682 in de Caep de Goede Hoop. <ref name=SCHALK/>

Baptism=== :: Date: Maria Elisabeth Jooste was baptized on 8 February 1693. <refname=SCHALK/>:: Place: Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, (Cape Town), de Caep de Goede Hoop. <ref name=SCHALK/><ref name=EGSSA>The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions (http://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/ : accessed 2 Sep, 2017), "Cape Town Baptisms 1665-1695 (1693)" (Written by transcribedby Richard Ball and Corney Keller. Posted in Cape Town Baptisms 1665-1695), baptism entry for Maria Elisab[... van de Caep, 8 February 1693, page 48]; Source: Cape Archives Verbatim Copies VC 603, Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerk, baptisms 1665 to 1696. VC 603 is a photocopy made during the 1980s of the original, made for the Sciences Research Council (HSRC) and a copy was donated to the South African Archives, a copygoing to the Cape Town repository and to the Pretoria Repository (where it is part of the FC series). The original register is now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch,as G1 1/1. The transcription was originally made in 2006 by Richard Ball. Corrections were received from Delia Robertson and Alwyn Smit andCorney Keller had now completely revised and amended the original transcript (February 2012). There are no doubt still mistakes, both of typing and transcription, but they are much fewer. We will be pleased toreceive any suggestion for corrections.Seen and added by Van der Walt-440|Philip van der Walt Sep 2, 2017.</ref>

::: den 8 dito sijn deese ondergescrevene personen op hare voor ::: gaende belijdenisse door het sacrament van ::: den H: Doop Christi Kerke ingelijst. ::: Isaac van Bengalen met Catharina van ::: Bengalen, Willemina van Mauritius met ::: Catrina van Mauritius, ende Maria Elisab[...] ::: van de Caep, alle vrij lieden alhier.::: Slaven op belijdenis gedoopt (inserted in the left margin under the date) <ref name=EGSSA/>

Mother-Putative=== :: Iba van Timor <ref name=SCHALK>Pienaar-305 | Schalk Pienaar 23 Feb 2015. Source: Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project.http://e-family.co.za/ffy Page: Maria Elisabeth Jooste</ref>

Immigration ===:: As weesmeisie uit Nederland. <ref name=ARRIE/> Volgens Delia Robertson, is sy in die Kaap gebore. <ref name=SCHALK/>

Death ===:: Date: Maria {[Maria Joost <ref name=STEFAN/>] / [Maria Unknown<ref name=PIEN/>]} passed away about 1723 <ref name=ANDREW/><ref name=PIEN/> / in 1723. <ref name=PIETER/> / in 1723. <ref name=STEFAN>Coetzer-318 | Stefan Coetzer, Sunday, March 2, 2014. Source: South Africa Mypeoplepuzzle.net Seen and added on Apr 2014.</ref>:: Place: Drakenstein <ref name=ANDREW>WikiTree profile Jooste-47 created through the import of Ancestors_DippenaarAndre_noinfo.GED on Oct 23, 2012 by Dippenaar-12 | Andrew Dippenaar.</ref>

Sources

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