Baptism 1693

Death 1729

PLEASE READ http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/remarkablewriting/PaiTimor.pdf

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NOTE: added to http://www.stamouers.com/ by Demornay du Toit, 3 February 2009

There are errors in this entry:

Catharina de Berault, baptised on 5th November 1684, supposedly the daughter of Louis de Berault and Catharina van de Kaap, and said to have married Barend Pieterse Blom, is the subject of this baptism entry:

eodem dito (5 November 1684)

{De name der gedoopen} Catharina

{de ouders} [Kees] de Bo[e]r en Catharina

{de getuigen} Marytie van Juffr. Beroo

The above is from the eGSSA transcription of Cape Town Baptisms for 1665-1695. The original had the details across the page in columns which were transcribed vertically and I have added the headings in braces for clarity. The entry refers to Catharina Cornelisz, daughter of Cornelis Claesz of Utrecht, aka Kees de Boer, the very same Catharina referred to at the end of the Barend Pietersz Blom entry, where it states that some sources give her baptism date as 5 November 1784 and explains that this refers to the daughter of Kees de Boer. However, Kees de Boer married Catharina van Bengalen / Malabar / De Cust Coromandel on 15th March 1676 - "Den 15 Dito (Maart 1676) Cornelis Claasz van Uytregt vrijborger en Catharina van Malbaar" (Cape Town Marriages 1665-1695; eGSSA transcription) - and could not have fathered a daughter baptised more than a century later.

There is an article by Mansell Upham ("The Soetkoek Syndrome", written in 2001 and reproduced in a posting in the RootsWeb BUITENPOSTEN mailing list in February 2005), in which he concludes that the wife of Barend Pieterse Blom was one Catharina de Beer, origin unknown, and not a daughter of Louis de Berault and Catharina van de Kaap. The article explains in some detail how a "mythology" developed around the subject, but there is a simple alternative to disprove Louis de Berault's connection with Catharina "de Berault": Catharina was baptised in Cape Town in November 1684, and Louis de Berault did not arrive at the Cape until nearly four years later, on the Zuid-Beveland on 19th August 1688, along with his sister Anne and her husband Rev Paul Simond (I cannot find a primary source for this - perhaps someone can oblige - but I do not believe it is disputed).

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http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g4/p4105.htm

Catharina de Beer

b. circa 1678

Father-putative* Hans Beer b. c 1650, d. bt 9 Apr 1679 - 19 Aug 1679

Mother-putative* Iba Antonica van Timor b. c 1662

Catharina de Beer was born circa 1678 in Mauritius.

Catharina de Beer was baptized on 8 February 1693 Nederduitsch Gereformeerde Kerk, (Cape Town), de Caep de Goede Hoop.

She married Barend Pietersz Blom in 1692.

- based on research by Mansell Upham 'PAI TIMOR - the 'accomodatory' life and times of a 17th century exiled slave family from Timor', Remarkable Writing on FFY (Pai Timor) on http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/RemarkableWriting

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http://www.e-family.co.za/remarkablewriting/PaiTimor.pdf

Page 13: By this time [1679] his [Amsoeboe's] daughter Iba is presumably already mother to two illegitimate halfslag daughters (later baptized at the Cape as Willemina [sic] and Catharina van Mauritius becoming known as Hermina Carels: and Catharina [de] Beer / Bero, respectively).

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Category: Cape of Good Hope Stamouer-ProgenitorCategory:Cape_of_Good_Hope_Project_Needs_Validation

Biography

DNA Research regarding parentage ===:: Correspondence received from Ronel Olivier 27 Feb, 2016::: [...]I spoke to Sharon today after a discussion 2014 about the mt-DNA of this profile and her reply was: This is the DNA results [Ian William Garrett 12/12/2015 om 3:45 nm. Report]:

:: Two female-line descendants of Ansela van de Caap have now been identified belonging to mtDNA haplogroup L0a1. (http://www.geni.com/projects/South-African-mtDNA-Female-Progenitors...). :: The exciting news is that they represent 2 different lines stemmingfrom Anna van der Swaan, Ansela 's granddaughter. The matching results confirm that Anna van der Swaan belonged to L0a1. Unfortunately only one of Ansela 's daughters produced a mitochondrial lineage (continuous female line)...so this is the closest "triangulation" that can be made to Ansela herself, but with no evidence in the genealogical record to doubt that Anna van der Swaan was the biological grand-daughter of Ansela....it seems reasonable to conclude that Ansela also belonged to haplogroup L0a1. :: The FFY Project reports that an 8th gen. descendant of Catharina de Beer (believed to be the daughter of Iba van Timor) belongs mtDNA haplogroup N (http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ui86.htm). While a second result (descending from the same line) would be desirable to confirm this finding, the evidence thus far indicates that Iba van Timor and Ansela van de Caap (Campher) could not have been biological sisters, as their descendants do not share the same mtDNA haplogroup.The finding seems to confirm that Catharina de Beer was indeed a descendant of the exiled Amsoeboe and Inabe van Timor (haplogroup N is consistent with Timorese ancestry) - while Ansela van de Caap was not. :: Not only is Anselas haplogroup of L0a consistent with African ancestry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_L0_(mtDNA) but the Wits University HGDDRU lab reported that one of her descendant's results yielded identical matches to:

• "1 African American individual
• 1 individual from the Democratic Republic of Congo
• 4 Zanzibaris
• 2 South African Coloureds
• 1 South African Indian individual
• 1 White South African* 67 South African Bantu-speakers". <ref>Seen and entered by Philip van der Walt Feb 27, 2016. Special thanks to Ronel Olivier for bringing this to my attention.</ref>

Birth ===:: Date: Catharina de Beer was born in 1673<ref name="text12">Oct 23, 2012 by Andrew Dippenaar.</ref> / 1678.<ref name="text2493">Entered by Pieter Meyer , Apr 15, 2013.</ref>:: Place: [Cape, South Africa] <ref name="text12">Oct 23, 2012 by Andrew Dippenaar.</ref> / Mauritius<ref name="text2493">Entered by Pieter Meyer , Apr 15, 2013.</ref>

Christening ===:: Date: 5 NOV 1684<ref name="text-13">added by Arrie Klopper on 8 Oct 2010</ref>:: Place: Kaapstad<ref name="text-13">added by Arrie Klopper on 8 Oct 2010</ref><ref><font color=blue>

Errata SAG Vol 1 DE BERO Catharina::1. Die doopinskrywing het 'n tikfout: dit moet '1684' en nie '1784' lees nie. Marie Meyer (http://www.gisa.org.za/site/content/d-h) 2005-02-10.::2. Hierdie doopinskrywing van 5 November 1684 is verkeerd gelees en Catharina se ouers is *nie* DE BERAULT en Catharina van die Kaap nie, maar 'the Catharina in question was the daughter of Kees de Boer and his wife Catharina van Malabar. Kees de Boer was the free-burgher Cornelis Claesz (from Utrecht)' en die presiese transskripsie is :' ? eodemdito [ie the same aforesaid = den 5 November [1684]] [kinderen] Catharina [ouders] Kees de Boer en Catharina [de getuigen] Marytie van Juffr.[ouw] Beroo ?' (My dank aan Mnr Mansell Upham.) Seen and added Van Heerden-335 04:20, 15 October 2016 (EDT)</font></ref>

Marriage ===:: Date: 1691<ref name="text-93">added by [Stead-93 | Humphrey Stead]] on Jul 21, 2012</ref>:: Place: Cape of Good Hope<<ref name="text-93">added by [Stead-93 | Humphrey Stead]] on Jul 21, 2012</ref>::: Husband: Barend Pieterse Blom<ref name="text-93">added by [Stead-93 | Humphrey Stead]] on Jul 21, 2012</ref>::: Wife: Catharina de BEER<ref name="text-93">added by [Stead-93 | Humphrey Stead]] on Jul 21, 2012</ref>:::: Child: Geertruida Blom<ref name="text-93">added by [Stead-93 | Humphrey Stead]] on Jul 21, 2012</ref>

Death ===:: Place: Cape, [South Africa] <ref name="text12">Oct 23, 2012 by Andrew Dippenaar.</ref><ref name="text2493">Entered byPieter Meyer , Apr 15, 2013.</ref>

mtDNA

Haplogroup Y[43] – found especially among Nivkhs, Ulchs, Nanais, Negidals, Ainus, and the population of Nias Island, with a moderate frequency among other Tungusic peoples, Koreans, Mongols, Koryaks, Itelmens, Chinese, Japanese, Tajiks, Island Southeast Asians (including Taiwanese aborigines), and some Turkic peoples[26] [TMRCA 24,576.4 ± 7,083.2 ybp; CI=95%[35]]
Haplogroup Y1 – Korea, Taiwan (Minnan), Thailand (Iu Mien from Phayao Province[44][37]), Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic [TMRCA 14,689.5 ± 5,264.3 ybp; CI=95%[35]]
Haplogroup Y1a – Nivkh, Ulchi, Hezhen, Udegey, Even, Zabaikal Buryat, Mongolian, Daur, Korea, Han, Tibet, Ukraine[45] [TMRCA 7,467.5 ± 5,526.7 ybp; CI=95%[35]]
Haplogroup Y1a1 – Uyghur, Kyrgyz, Yakut, Buryat, Hezhen, Udegey, Evenk (Taimyr), Ket, Slovakia,[45] Romania,[45] Hungary,[45] Turkey[45]

Haplogroup Y1a2 – Koryak, Even (Kamchatka)

Sources

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* WikiTree profile De Beer-117 created through the import of Ancestors_DippenaarAndre_noinfo.GED on Oct 23, 2012 by Andrew Dippenaar. User ID: 5C19A5FB-BA85-4C8C-AB8B-47DD45B6C5C0 : Record ID Number: MH:I1399 : UPD 11 JAN 2012 16:17:40 GMT+2

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* WikiTree profile De BEER-111 created through the import of Redelinghuys.ged on Jul 21, 2012 by Humphrey Stead : User ID: ABE9D4D93FB4BB4C9249EB48E1097DF8A8A8.. Prior to import, this record waslast changed 15:53:39 6 Feb 2000.* Source: "Genealogies of Old South African Families", C.C. de Villiers,completely revised, edited, augmented and rewritten by C. Pama(Capetown: A.A. Balkema, 1966)

• Source: Communication from Veronica East (nee Watson) * Source: Title: Genealogies of Old South African Families Author: De Villiers,C.C. and Pama,G. Publication: A.A. Balkema,Capetown,South Africa,1966 Page: Vol I,p. 64

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  * WikiTree profile De Bero-1 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Arrie Klopper. : User ID:95A60C2D802D324AA15D317D55B084320440. Prior to import, this record was last changed 8 Oct 2010.

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