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Re: Capt. William Carpenter b:1605 Confusion
By John Carpenter November 08, 2002 at 11:03:02

In reply to: Capt. William Carpenter b:1605 Confusion

Jason Pierce 11/05/02
Jason,

Below is what I have on Captain William Carpenter b. 1605.

Please read the notes, especailly those by Gene Zubrinsky of Ojai, Calif. You will see what has been commonly "known" and what has been challenged regarding William Carpenter.

Genealogical records of just 20 years ago do not reflect what has been found since.Example: marriage record to Abigail Briant.

I hope this helps.

John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA

Modified Register for William CARPENTER Capt.-584

First Generation

1. William CARPENTER Capt.-584 was born on 23 May 1605 in of, Wiltshire, England. He died on 7 Feb 1658/1659 in , Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried about 7 Feb 1658/1659 in Newman Cem., East Providence, Providence, RI.

NOTE: A farmer by trade. A Freeman of Weymouth 13 May 1640 and of Rehoboth 28 Mar 1645. Much information in the following books.

MARRIAGE CORRECTION BELOW!!!MARRIAGE RECORD FOUND IN ENGLAND!

Number 16 in the Carpenter Memorial by Amos B. Carpenter (1898).
AFN V6TJ-CO & LSD9-5L on this William has major errors.Data below used for corrections.Captain of the
Colony.

FOUNDER: Captain William Carpenter is concidered the founder of the Rehoboth MA Branch of the Carpenters.

BIRTH: Probably in Wiltshire.He spent time in Wherwell (Whirlwell or Horwell).Born 23 or 25 (in some
genealogical records) May 1605.However these do not cite the orginal source in the microfilms.
CHR: 1611 in Somerset per one record.This is about 150 miles away, however and may have belonged to another
William.

DEATH: 7 Feb 1658/59 in Rehoboth per some genealogical records. 7 Feb 1659 was the date that William's will
was PROVEN per some other records.
Part of the confusion is in the double-date notation now widely used for pre-1752 dates from Jan 1 through March
24.Under the old calendar, what we call March 25, (April 1 - the end of the Spring Solstice celebrations insome
places), was the start of the new year.It is confusing to those who are unaware of the calendar changes England
officially adopted in 1752 and the adjustments used by today's scholars to designate which year was which.
Please note: Different countries started using the Gregorian calendar in different years.
Only the dates from January to the end of March should be double dated as noted below by Gene.
Another part of the confusion is the misuse of dates attributing death or burial based on incomplete data.
In some records there is a W.P. placed in the death or burial location.In this case, this is wrong.Some claim W.P.
in Savages dictionary of RI stands for West Providence, RI, but this is not found and there was no West Providence
in that time period.In the death place it was for Will Proven in some genealogical reports like the Ancestral File.
(See John Chandler's comment below Gene's.)
Gene Zubrinsky of Ojai, CA explains the death dates in this manner:
"Carpenter's will was written on 10 December (no year given, but almostcertainly 1658 [absolutely no later]); he
died on 7 February 1658 (if Old Style date, as is highly likely, thiswould properly be 1658/9; if not, 1657/8); his
estate inventory was taken on 21 February 1658 (if Old Style, 1658/9; if not, 1657/8); and his will was proved on 21
April 1659.(As you know, I've cited primary sources forall these dates. [Rehoboth VR, 1:50;
Plymouth Colony Wills, 2:1:80, 84 (transcr. in THE MAYFLOWER DESCENDANT 14[1912]:231-33)].)")
This almost certainly occurred over the course of a four-and-a-half-month period, in perfect chronological order,
from 10 Dec. 1658 to 21 April 1659.It's quite straightforward.If the death and inventory dates (giving the year as
1658) represent New Style dating, it would put an improbable 14 months between those events, on the one hand, and
the will's probate, on the other.(Once the inventory was taken, it would have been highly unusual for probate to be
delayed over a year.)That's the ONLY other possible alternative."
John Chandler explains the W.P. as "specifically that W.P. often stands for "will proved" in the Ancestral File and in
databases derived from it. This is useful knowledge for anyone who browses genealogical data on the Internet or on
CD collections.By the way, the W.P. notation in the AF usually does reflect the facts -- since the AF does not have
a PROBATE field or even NOTEs, the only way to enter the limited knowledge of death based on probate is in the
DEATH field with a notation of exactly this sort."
Gene has more commentary below.

BURIAL: His grave is in the Newman Cemetery in Rumford, RI which used to be part of Rehoboth, MA.His
maker is an ordinary field stone with the initials "W.C." carved with "1658" chisled below it.John L. Carpenter of
Walpole, NH has an excellent picture which he has digitized for e-Mail use.

NOTE: Some genealogical records given Abigail Sales (Searles) as wife and others Abigail Bennett, Ralph his step-
brother is also listed as a spouse to Abigail Bennett.It is likely that this Williiam was married at least twice.
Abigail Bennett died in 1687 in Rehoboth.If this is true the first three kids are AS and others to AB. In at least one
record, Abigail Briant (Bryant) is listed as spouse.If she was a spouse, she would have been number one or one of
the Abigails above under a married name?FOUND!!!

MARRIAGE:Marriage record in the Bishops' Transcripts at Shalbourne (administered by Wiltshire then but
actually in Berkshire today) indicates he and Abigail "Briante" were married there on 28 April 1625.
Per American Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995.

CHILDREN: Many researchers try to put a Ephraim (b. 25 April 1651) in this family but this is in error.See the
grandchild of this William, through his son named William, for the Ephraim(s) born 25 April 16XX.
Many researchers say that Abraham (b. 9 Feb 1643) is in this family in error also.Yet no other individual comes
close to birth or baptisim date.In the children sequence he fits and most likely died young.

BOOK: Per "GENEALOGICAL & FAMILY HISTORY OF WESTERN NEW YORK," LEWIS 1912, Page 1253
Much detail given: Will dated 21 Apr 1659, Proved 7 Feb 1659, and yes they appear backwards.Will done in 1658?
He married in England, Abigail ? who died 22 Feb, 1687.*On page 1318: His birth is listed as 25 May 1605.
Records show he was a fine writer, a man of affairs, possessed of much ability.
SEE: WILL below and DEATH notes for clairification by Gene Zubrinsky.

HISTORY: OTHER INFORMATION INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO: DEPUTY TO THE GENERAL
COURT FROM WEYMOUTH IN 1641-43 AND FROM REHOBOTH IN IN 1645, CONSTABLE IN 1641.HE
WAS A CLOSE FRIEND TO GOVERNOR WILLIAM BRADFORD, WHO MARRIED HIS COUSIN ALICE
CARPENTER.HE BOUGHT THE AREA NOW CALLED REHOBOTH (8 MILES SQUARE) FROM THE
INDIANS.PROPRIETORS' CLERK FROM 1643-1649. CONTRIBUTED TOWARD THE EXPENSES OF KING
PHILLIPS WAR. IN 1647, A SELECTMAN FROM REHOBOTH. HE WAS A CAPTAIN OF MILITA.William
was a Deputy to the General Court of Plymouth (1641) and used his influence to make a purchase of this land. He
was later a member of the General Court from Rehoboth in 1645. The Court conceded to all that he asked as appears
from an extract from the Proprietor's Record (See Vol. I., page 1).The Court appointed Mr. John Brown and Mr.
Edward Winslow to purchase the aforesaid tract of land of Asamacum, the chief sachem and owner thereof ... See
page 38 in the Carpenter Memorial.

NOTE: See also San Diego Family History Center book 929.273 C226c. This orignal typed copy contains
descendants not in the the 1898 book.AFN LSD9-5L is apparently the same person with Baptisim date as birth date.

BOOK:- GENEALOGY: Amos B. Carpenter, A GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF THE REHOBOTH BRANCH
OF THE CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA.Also known as the CARPENTER MEMORIAL. Published 1898
By: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Amherst, MA.
WILLIAM is listed as # 16.Pages 38 to 50.

BOOK:- GENEALOGY:Carpenter and Allied Families by Miss Annie L. Carpenter, The American Historical
Society, Inc., NY, published in 1936. Page 11-13.

See LDS film #1449498; c225a; 0928227; 1404120.
See Carpenter Family publication, LDS film #1685645.
See Rehoboth MA Vital Records Arnold pp. 571, 578.
See Rehoboth MA Vital Records Carpenter pp. 808.
See Weymouth Historical Society publication N2, pp 254-287.
See New England Historical & Genealogical Register Vol LXV p.65 !See Plymouth Colony Records, 12 Vols.
(Boston, MA, 1861), Wills, Vol. 2, pp. 80-83.

BOOKLET: See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995 Contents of pages 298-300 of Emigration
List, BEVIS 1638 "Portus Southon: Southon, (May 1638)The list of the names of passengers intended to shipe
themselves, in the Bevis of Hampton of CL tommes, Robert Batten, Master, for New England; thus by vertue of the
Lord Tresurers Warrant of the second of May, which was after the restrayne(t) & they some dayes gone to sea before
the King's Mates.
Proclamacon come unto Southton." (lists of names)
agename
62William Carpenter
33William Carpenter Jun (of Horwell)
32Abigail Carpenter
10 & under four children.
servant.
(NOTE: Southon = Southampton).
(NOTE: Horwell = Wherwell???).

NOTE: Through his five sons, Capt. William Carpenter became the father of "The Family of Heroes."Over 300 of
his male lineal descendants (230 proven as of 8/96) served America in the Revolutionary War.No other American
colonial man had as many.Source: Raymond George Carpenter, American Genealogist for the Carpenter Family,
author of "The Family of Heroes." (serial)

BOOK: "The Carpenter Family in America from the Settlement at Providence, R.I.1637-1901." By Daniel
Hoogland Carpenter of Mapelwood, Essex, NJ. Published by the Marion Press of Jamacia, Queensborough, NY in
1901.370 Pages. See page 354, Describing the "Visitation" or census of the College of Arms in 1623 and 1634
where it is shown that there was a number of Carpenter families in Gloucester, Hereford, Somerset, and Surrey, who
made proof of their pedigrees by presenting arms which were emblazoned in the windows of the Church at Westbury
upon Trin (often called the Worcester Arms).

MISC: Descendants of Captain William Carpenter are eligible for membership in the "Order of First Families of
Rhode Island and Providence Plantations." For information contact the "Order" above at 45 East 200 North Street,
Salt Lake City, UT 84103.

WILL: Will of William Carpenter, Proven 7 Feb 1659, Written 21 Apr 1658.
Posted by Donna Tivener on Thu, 27 May 1999.
WILLIAM OF REHOBOTH'S 1659 WILL
The William Carpenter will reads, in part:
"In the name of God, Amen, I, William Carpenter, Sr. of Rehoboth, being in perfect memory at present, blessed be
God, do make my last Will and Testament.
--I give to my son, John Carpenter, one mare, being the old white mare, and my best doublet and my handsomest
coat, and new cloth to make him a pair of breeches.
---I give unto his son beside twenty shillings to buy him a calf.
---I give to him Mr. Ainsworth's upon the five books of Moses, Canticles and Psalms, and Mr. Brightman on
Revelations, and my concordance.
---I five to my son William, the young grey mare of two yearling colts, and five pounds in sugar or wampum, and my
(passett) coate, and one suit of apparel, and Mr. Mahew on the four Evangelists upon the 14 chapters of Saule
(or Paul).
---I give him my Latin books, my greek grammar and Hebrew grammar and my Greek Lexicon, and I give him ten
(or 5) pounds of cotton wool; and his son, John twenty shillings to be paid to him a year after my decease.
---I give to my son, Jospeh two of the youngest steers of the four that were brought to work this year; and to his son,
Joseph twenty shillings, and to Joseph I give one of Perkins' works and of Barrows upon private contentions called
harts (cq) divisions.
---__I give to Jospeh a suit of better cloths to be given at his mother's discretion, and I give him a green serge coat
and ten pounds of cotton wool, and a match lock gun.
---I give to my daughter, Hannah half of my Common at Pawtuxet, and one third of my impropriate, only my
meadow excepted, and my home lot, and that land I had laid out to cousin that I had for the low lands cousin
Carpenter that I had by. (NOTE: dmt. No doubt refers to exchange of lands or land purchased of Joseph Carpenter,
son of William Carpenter of Providence, Rhode Island.)

---I give to my daughter Hannah one yearling heifer, also I give to Hannah her Bible, the practice of piety and the
volume of prayer, and one ewe at the island, and twenty pounds of cotton, and six pounds of wool.
---I give to my son Abiah (Abijah) the rest of my lands at Pawtuxet, and the meadow, after my decease; and his
mother and Samuel to help him to build a house because Samuelhas a house built already. Only if my wife marry
again, she shall have nothing to do with that land.
---I give to my daughter, Abigail, one young mare, a three-year old bay mare, and if the mare should be dead at
Spring, she shall have fifteen pounds in her stead, within one year after my decease.
---I give twenty shillings to John Titus, his for to be paid a year after my decease; but if John Titus coems to dwell
and take the house and land, which I sent him word he sall have if he come. then he shall have the land and not the
money.
---I give to my son Samuel one-half my land which I now live upon (and two pens of the young sheep, two cows, one
bull) and he now lives on, with his furniture and half of my working tools; and Abish, the other half; and Samuel to
have on book of Psalms, a Dictionary, and a Gun and my best coat, and one ewe at the island.
---I give to my wife the other half of the land I now live upon, for her life time, and the use of my household stuff,
carts and plows, if she marry not. But if she marry, she shall have a third part in my land and Samuel, the
rest; and she shall have four oxen, one mare, which is called the black mare, four cows, one bed and its furniture,
one pot, one good kettle and one little, and one skillet, and half of the pewter her lifetime, and then to give it up to
the chidlren; and if she does not marry, to have the rest of my land at Pawtuxet, which remaineth, that which is left
which is not given to my daughter, Hannah, and that which is left Abiah to have after my wife's decease; if she marry,
to have it the next year after.
---I give to my wife those books of Perkins, called Christ's Sermon on the Mount, the good Bible, Burroughs Jewell
of Contntment, the oil of Gladness.I give her two hundred of sugar.
---__My wife is to have the room I now lodge in, and the chamber over, and to have liverty to come tothe fire and do
her occasions, and she shall have the meadow that was made in John Titus lot because it is near, and she is to have a
way to the swamp through the lot. And if John Titus come, Samuel is to have two acares out of hislot that is not
broken up, and my wife is to have the rest; and Samuel to break it up for her. Also, I give to my wife (corn) towards
housekeeping and the cloth in the house toward the clothing herself, and children with her, and twine that she hath
to serve towards housekeeping, and three acres at the Island.
---I give to Abiah a yearling mare colt, being the white mare's colt, and one yearling heifer, and Dr. Jarvi's
Catechism, and Helens History of the World, and one ewe...about my wife's occasion when she was at the Island.
(Abiah was to care for her when at the Island.)
---When the legacies are paid out, the remainder is to be disposed among the children at the discretion of my wife
and the overseers.
Memorandum:---If my son Titus come and do possess the land, I said he should have, as namely the house land and
orchard, and corn. Joseph had the land in two divisions, the fresh meadow, salt one last laid out, and not the
fresh I fenced in, and to pay the reates for, for that he do agree, and if he go from it, he shall not sell it to any but his
brother Samuel or his mother.
---This is my Will and Testament, to which I set my hand. William Carpenter of Rehoboth, the day and year before
written.
---I make my wife the Executrix, and my Overseer to be Richard Bowen, and John Allen is to be helpful to my wife,
and I appoint my brother Carpenter to help, and to have ten shillings for their pains.."

The above Will of William Carpenter of Rehoboth, Mass. was attested on April 21, 1659. The original copy at the

Plymouth, Mass. courthouse can still be read, but with difficulty.
The Transcript of the 1659 Will of William Carpenter of Rehoboth, Mass. is from a clipping funished by Capt. W.N.
Mansfield of Livermore, Ca. of a 1963 story in the Taunton Mass. Gazette. "Carpenter Family New-Journal."

E-MAIL:Thu, 7 Jun 2001From: GeneZub@aol.com
Gene Zubrinsky of Ojai, Calif. provided the following insights:
So far as I know, there is no documentary basis for the day and month you present for William Carpenter's birth.
The only record permitting even an approximation of the year (ca. 1605) is the Bevis passenger list, dated 2 May
1638 and giving his age as 33.
William's death is recorded as 7 February 1658 (Rehoboth VR [orig.], 1:50).Although the surrounding entries do
not permit a definite conclusion that this represents Old Style (Julian calendar) dating, the like-lihood of it makes it
proper for the year to be presented as 1658[/9?].His will was probated on 21 April 1659 (Plymouth Colony Wills, 2:
1:80, 83).
What does "W.P." stand for?
Notes for 1024. William Carpenter Capt.
<< NOTE: A farmer by trade. A Freeman of Weymouth 13 May 1640 and of Rehoboth 28 Mar 1645. >>
Amos B. Carpenter (p. 38) gives 28 March 1645 as the date on which William Carpenter was admitted an inhabitant
of Rehoboth and the following June as when he became a Plymouth Colony freeman.Rehoboth townsmen did meet
on "The 28th of the 3 month [May, not March] 1645," but William Carpenter's name does not appear in the record of
that meeting nor does the matter of admitting inhabitants (Rehoboth Town Meetings, 1:40).(This is not surprising:
William was among the 58 original Rehoboth proprietors desig-nated in 1643; there is no reason for him to have
been admitted an inhabitant in 1645.)But concerning the second, more important event, author Carpenter is correct:
William (previously a Massachusetts Bay Colony freeman from Weymouth) was indeed admitted a Plymouth
Colony freeman from Rehoboth on 4 June 1645 (Shurtleff and Pulsifer, eds., Records of the Colony of New
Plymouth in New England, 2:84).
<< BIRTH: Probably in Wiltshire. He spent time in Wherwell (Whirlwell or Horwell). Born 23 or 25 (in some
records) May 1605. CHR: 1611 in Somerset per one record. This is about 150 miles away, however and may have
belonged to another. >>
He was only briefly at Wherwell (probably less than three months) prior to emigrating, in 1638 (TAG 70:195).
Again, I know of no record (an unreferenced secondary-source item is insufficient) to support the day(s) and month
you present.What, please, is (are) your source(s)?
The Somersetshire data (from Nettlecombe and Ilchester) circulating primarily in connection with so-called Richard
of Amesbury (father of William Carpenter of Providence/Pawtuxet and perhaps uncle of William of Rehoboth)
almost certainly do not apply to him.Until I see supporting evidence, I regard all the Somer-set data as irrelevant to
the Marden/Amesbury/Shalbourne/Wherwell Carpenters.
I find no numbered items pertaining to Richard of Amesbury or his son, William of Providence/Pawtuxet, in your
online material.May I assume they appear on the CD?If so, I'd like to know what you attribute to them as to dates,
places, ancestry of the latter's wife, etc.
<< DEATH: 7 Feb 1658/59 in Rehoboth per some records. However this was the date his will was proven. See book
note below. >>
It is William's Rehoboth death record, not his Plymouth Colony probate record, which says 7 Feb. 1658 (i.e., 1658[/
9?]) (Rehoboth VR, 1:50).
<< Some records given Abigail Sales (Searles) as wife and others Abigail Bennett, Ralph his step-brother is also
listed as a spouse to Abigail Bennett. It is likely that this Williiam was married at least twice. Abigail Bennett died
in 1687 in Rehoboth. If this is true the first three kids are AS and others to AB. In at least one record, Abigail Briant
(Bryant) is listed as spouse. If she was a spouse, she would have been number one or one of the Abigails above
under a married name? FOUND!!! >>
Since most of this has been thoroughly refuted and the remainder clarified, why not delete this entire paragraph?
<< MARRIAGE: Marriage record in the Bishops' Transcripts at Shalbourne (administered by Wiltshire then but
actually in Berkshire today) indicates he and Abigail "Briante" were married there on 28 April 1625. Per American
Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995. >>
The Bishop's Transcripts were/are not at Shalbourne but of Shalbourne parish records and were sent from the
Shalbourne Parish Church to the Bishop of the Sarum diocese, at Sarum (Salisbury), Wiltshire.(They are presently
held at the Wiltshire Record Office, Trowbridge.)The church, however, was in the Berkshire part of Shalbourne
Parish, which straddled the Wiltshire-Berkshire line even then (see TAG 70:194, note 5).
<< CHILDREN: Many researchers try to put a Ephraim (b. 25 April 1651) in this family but this is in error. See the
grandchild of this William, through his son named William, for the Ephraim(s) born 25 April 16XX. Many
researchers say that Abraham (b. 9 Feb 1643) is in this family in error also. Yet no other individual comes close to
birth or baptisim date. In the children sequence he fits and most likely died young. >>
There was no Abraham.William and Abigail's son Abiah was the only Carpenter child born on 9 April (not Feb.)
1643 (see TAG 70:200-203).The original Weymouth record of his birth says "2m"—i.e., second month of the
Julian calendar, which was April, not February (see ibid., 204).
<< Per "GENEALOGICAL & FAMILY HISTORY OF WESTERN NEW YORK," LEWIS 1912, Page 1253 Much
detail given: Will dated 21 Apr 1659, Proved 7 Feb 1659, and yes they appear backwards. Will done in 1658? He

married in England, Abigail ? who died 22 Feb, 1687. *On page 1318: His birth is listed as 25 May 1605. Records
show he was a fine writer, a man of affairs, possessed of much ability. >>
The death and probate records, as you present them, do not simply appear backwards; they are backwards (see above)
.Why retain information so clearly mistaken?It can only serve to confuse.
Abigail's burial (not death) date is recorded as 22 Feb. 1686/7 (Rehoboth VR [orig.], 1:57).
Again, I know of no documentary basis for the day and month given above for William's birth.
<< OTHER INFORMATION INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO: DEPUTY TO THE GENERAL COURT
FROM WEYMOUTH IN 1641-43 AND FROM REHOBOTH IN IN 1645, CONSTABLE IN 1641. HE WAS A
CLOSE FRIEND TO GOVERNOR WILLIAM BRADFORD, WHO MARRIED HIS COUSIN ALICE
CARPENTER. HE BOUGHT THE AREA NOW CALLED REHOBOTH (8 MILES SQUARE) FROM THE
INDIANS. PROPRIETORS' CLERK FROM 1643-1649. CONTRIBUTED TOWARD THE EXPENSES OF KING
PHILLIPS WAR. IN 1647, A SELECTMAN FROM REHOBOTH. HE WAS A CAPTAIN OF MILITA. >>
That William Bradford's second wife, Alice (Carpenter) Southworth, was the cousin of William2 of Reho-both is far
from established and is probably wrong.
William was by no means the sole purchaser of the area now called Rehoboth.In fact, that area (originally called by
its Indian name, Seekonk) was not where Carpenter and the other 57 original proprietors settled.The original
settlement (the "Ring of the Town") was located in what is now Rumford (East Providence), Rhode Island.The
eight-square-mile tract was first sold about 1638 by Sachem Metacomet (King Philip) to a group from Charlestown,
whose Seekonk settlement had failed by 1640.The original 58 Rehoboth proprietors (of 1643) acquired title from
them and/or Metacomet (Richard LeBaron Bowen, Early Reho-both, 4 vols. [Rehoboth, 1945-50], 4:3).The land
was held in common by the proprietors, who initially distributed home lots, woodland, upland, and meadows to
themselves and held the remaining common lands for grazing cattle and future divisions.
In Amos B. Carpenter's words, "[i]n 1647 he was chosen as one of the directors of the Town" (p. 39).This was a
town office; if equivalent to selectman, it would be appropriate to say he was a selectman at or of (not from)
Rehoboth.He was in 1645 a Deputy to the General Court at Plymouth (the Colony's legislature) from Rehoboth.
<< NOTE: See also San Diego Family History Center book 929.273 C226c. This orignal typed copy contains
descendants not in the the 1898 book. AFN LSD9-5L is apparently the same person with Baptisim date as birth date.

Parish records, the only source of English vital statistics during this period, include baptismal records—never birth
records.But since no specific parish name is associated with your 23/25 May 1605 birth/bap-tismal dates, how can
either be trusted?
<< BOOK:- GENEALOGY: Amos B. Carpenter, A GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF THE REHOBOTH
BRANCH OF THE CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA. Also known as the CARPENTER MEMORIAL.
Published 1898 By: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Amherst, MAWILLIAM is listed as # 16. Pages 38 to 50. >>
Perhaps a reiteration of the book's unreliability would be appropriate here.
"This line is mostly speculation, except where historical documents indicate otherwise. From Maurice Carpentier b.
abt 1280 up to the 1400s is probable then the records become more tangible.The best documentation starts on the "
Bevis" in 1638 and continues onward to our time.Due to the lack of records, and name changes when titles were
given, it is difficult to piece a record together of the CARPENTER Family in this part of history.Often the "Best
Guess" is all what we can do until another record is found."

E-MAIL: From: GeneZub@aol.com
To: jrcrin001@cox.net
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Questions & answers about Capt. William Carpenter of Rehoboth (b. 16...
Dear John,
Edward Winslow and John Brown's 1641 purchase from Osamequin (Massasoit) of the eight-mile-square area that
became Rehoboth is mentioned in Rehoboth town records.But in 1639 (William Carpenter was still at Weymouth,
Massachusetts Bay Colony) the Plymouth Colony General Court reserved three large areas--one of which included
Seacunck--for the "Purchasers" (i.e., heads of families living in Plymouth by 1626 or 1627); I'm reasonably certain
this act is entered in Plymouth Colony records.
I'm not aware that Plymouth Colony records have been put online (as Connecticut Colony records recently have), but
they are indeed in print and have been since the mid-1800s: Nathaniel B. Shurtleff and David Pulsifer, eds., Records

of the Colony of New Plymouth in New England, 12 vols. (Boston, 1855-61).
The Family History Library (Salt Lake City) has put them on microfilm and also on a set of microfiches; either can
be ordered--they may already be "in house"--at one's local LDS Family History Center.(The microfiches [.15 each]
remain at the FHC permanently, but that filming doesn't include vols. 9 and 11.)The majority of records pertaining
to early Rehoboth are found in vol. 2, but vols. 11 and 12 should also be consulted.All 12 volumes can be found in
book form at many urban public libraries, university libraries, and at certain genealogical libraries.Interlibrary loan
is another option.
Best regards,
Gene

William married (1-MRIN:106) Abigail BRIANT-659, daughter of John BRIANT-27671 and Alice-27672 (MRIN:465), on 28 Apr 1625 in Shalbourneparish, Wiltshire, England. Abigail was born on 27 May 1604 in Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England. She died on 22 Feb 1686/1687 in , Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried in Feb 1687 in , Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

Per Bishop's Transcripts from Shalbourne Parish, Wiltshire (now Berkshire) shows that William Carpenter was
married there on 28 April 1625 to Abigail "Briante," who was was baptised at Shalbourne on 27 May 1604, the
daughter of John and Alice Briant.

PER 1912 LEWIS BOOK HER NAME WAS ABIGAIL NOT PRISCILLA.
Per THE SECOND BOAT research notes dated May 1980 (vol.1 No. 1) page 15 by Harry Rogers "suggests" that
Abigail was the daughter of WILLIAM BENNETT of Sway, whose will made in 1630 and proven in 1638 (he was
buried 20 Aug 1638) names sons-in-law RALPH CARPENTER and WILLIAM CARPENTER, but only RALPH
served as an excutor, making some researchers believe the missing Carpenter was the William who sailed on the
BEVIS in 1638. (IE the father William b. 1576).
NOTE: Ralph was a step brother to William b. 1605. William Carpenter's (b. 1605) son named William (b. 1631)
married a Priscilla Bennnett.

See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995: Abigail, brn aft 1606, and died 22 Feb. 1686.Upon the
death of her husband William Carpenter she received his Bible and other books.Two hundred pounds of sugar, the
room the testator lodges inn with the chamber over it; and "libertie to come to the fier to do her occations."She got
a meadow near the house, a way to the swamp, a supply of corn and the cloth in the house "toward clothing herself
and children".With her herd of swine that she hath to serve towards housekeeping.Abigail was named sole
executric of the will, with Richard Bowin, John Allin and "my brother Carpenter" to help her. Each year date and
the inventory was taken 21 Feb 1658 or 1659.

NAME: Some records list her as Abigail Briant (Bryant), this is correct.

E-MAIL:Thu, 7 Jun 2001From: GeneZub@aol.com
Gene Zubrinsky of Ojai, Calif. provided the following insights:
Abigail was buried on 22 Feb. 1686/7 (Rehoboth VR [orig.], 1:57); there is no death record.
Again, what does "W.P." stand for?
Notes for 1025. Abigail Briant
<< Per Bishop's Transcripts from Shalbourne Parish, Wiltshire (now Berkshire) shows that William Carpenter was
married there on 28 April 1625 to Abigail "Briante," who was was baptised at Shalbourne on 27 May 1604, the
daughter of John and Alice Briant. >>
Since I assume you obtained this information from the TAG article and have not viewed the original records yourself,
the proper citation should include at least an abbreviated reference to the article: for example, "TAG 70[1995]: 194,
citing Shalbourne Parish Records (Bishop's Transcripts), Bundle 1 (FHL film #1279426, item 11)."This is not only
the honest thing to do, but it also protects you from being blamed for any mistakes made in the secondary source's
presentation of the primary-source data.More-over, it gives the reader the opportunity to consult the article (more
accessible than the original records) for the above items and for all the other data and analyses contained therein.
"[N]ow Berkshire" is incorrect.As indicated above, part of the parish was/is in Wiltshire, and part was/is in
Berkshire.
<< Per THE SECOND BOAT research notes dated May 1980 (vol.1 No. 1) page 15 by Harry Rogers "suggests" that
Abigail was the daughter of WILLIAM BENNETT of Sway, whose will made in 1630 and proven in 1638 (he was

buried 20 Aug 1638) names sons-in-law RALPH CARPENTER and WILLIAM CARPENTER, but only RALPH
served as an excutor, making some researchers believe the missing Carpenter was the William who sailed on the
BEVIS in 1638. (IE the father William b. 1576). >>
Since this has been thoroughly refuted, why not delete it?Retaining information known to be invalid is at best a
distraction and at worst confusing.
<< See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995: Abigail, brn aft 1606, and died 22 Feb. 1686. Upon
the death of her husband William Carpenter she received his Bible and other books. Two hundred pounds of sugar,
the room the testator lodges inn with the chamber over it; and "libertie to come to the fier to do her occations." She
got a meadow near the house, a way to the swamp, a supply of corn and the cloth in the house "toward clothing
herself and children". With her herd of swine that she hath to serve towards housekeeping. Abigail was named sole
executric of the will, with Richard Bowin, John Allin and "my brother Carpenter" to help her. Each year date and the
inventory was taken 21 Feb 1658 or 1659. >>
If you retain the first sentence, inserting "(sic)" after 1606 would be appropriate.We know she was bap-tized in
1604.
Your last sentence is unclear ("Each year date"?).The date on which William's estate inventory was taken is written
at the beginning of the record of it as 21 February 1658 (Plymouth Colony Wills, 2:1:84).Since this probably
represents Old Style (Julian calendar) dating, the year can properly be stated with a tentative double date of 1658[/9?]
.But "1658 or 1659" implies that it was one or the other, rather than both (based on the overlapping of Julian and
Gregorian calendars between 1 January and 24 March).
<< NAME: Some records list her as Abigail Briant (Bryant), this is correct. >>
Only her baptismal and marriage records contain her full name, only the latter connects her to William Carpenter,
and neither spells her surname Bryant.If by records you mean secondary sources, the 1995 TAG article, citing the
Shalbourne records, was the first to present Abigail's true identity.Any others that do so are simply repeating that
article.Not only do you seem to be using the word records when you mean secondary sources, but even if you were
using it correctly, "some records" is vague and overly general.

William and Abigail had the following children:

      2       M       i.       John CARPENTER Capt.-587 was christened on 8 Oct 1626 in Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England. He died on 23 May 1695 in Jamacia, Long Island, NY.

Number 17 in the Carpenter Memorial.Family on page 50.
Extensive notes on page 43 and 44.Captain of a Military Company.

WILL: Will dated 10 Nov 1694 reads "Now ancient, crazy in body, but sound in mind."His will
mentions Hanna, his wife; John, Hope, Samuel and William his sons.He appears to be a man of
superior judgement who did much to assist in building up the community.

BAPTISIM: Per the : American Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995,
page 2 gives baptisim dates.

CHILD:Dinah and Abigail listed in the CM but not Temperance.The former children
mentioned are dropped in later records and Temperance added.

SEE: Jamaica, New York, Wills, Liber A, p. 98.

PER NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700:
M#1: JOHN (?1628-1695?) & HANNAH [SMITH?]/[HOPE?]; B 1658, HUNTINGTON,
LI/HEMPSTEAD, LI/JAMACIA, LI.

• **FIRST MARRIAGE DATE 9 FEB 1680 IS INCORRECT.IT BELONGS TO JOHN'S

SECOND
WIFE WHO WAS DOROTHY RHODES MARRIED ON THAT DATE.
M#2: JOHN (-1695) & DOROTHY [?RHODES], DAU JOHN; 9 FEB 1680; JAMAICA,
LI/WEYMOUTH?/ATTLEBORO.

CARPENTER BY TRADE.CAPTAIN IN 1673 WHO HELPED DEFEND FORT JAMES,
NEW YORK.OFFSPRING LISTED PAGE 1253 OF LEWIS 1912 BOOK.

MORE INFO IN 1898 BOOK.
26 JAN 1703 DEATH DATE IS THE ONLY CONFLICT WITH IGI RECORDS.

According to information from the Carpenter Chronicles, Vol 23, July 1995, a query from
Margaret Cass, 920 Andorra Road, Lafayette Hill, PA, 19444 She is working on the Carpenter
family of Goshen Co. NY.

John Carpenter particapated in the Narragansett Expedition in 1675, he resided in Jamaica LI,
NY later in life. He may have been the John Carpenter who was in CT abt 1646 (age 17).**He
was probably the John Carpenter in 1660 who bought land in Hempstead, Long Island and in
1665 bought land in Jamacia, Long Island.
He was one of the potentates of Jamacia under the Dragon Patent of 1680.

• * The ABC 1898 book (Carpenter Memorial) has the following notes:

"He came from England with his father and when young went to Connecticut: was there previous
to 1646, when he must have been about 17 years old. It appears that he drifted about in
Connecticut several years working at the trade of a carpenter.He had some difficulty with one
Gibbons and was assisted by Thomas Osborn.His brother Joseph appeared as plaintiff at
Hartford (CT) June , 1648."
On the following web page is the PUBLIC RECORD of his misdeed:
http://www.colonialct.uconn.edu/ViewPageByIndex.cfm?ID=149&Volume=1...
Letter=C&v=01&p=079&Page=140
See page 140 (dated 5 June 1646) and 141. This is the Colonial Connecuticut Records 1636-
1776.
Copyright 2000-2001 University of Connecticut.
"He broke into Gybbins and stole some wyne!" Phoebe Cortez (MzCortez@aol.com) found this
PUBLIC RECORD page and submitted it on 23 March 2002.See MISC PICs under RIN 587
for copy of page.

SEE: The History of Queens County (New York, NY, 1882) which indicates John C. was a
freeholder of Long Island as early as 1660.He owned land in neighboring Huntington prior to
his Feb. 14, 1663/1664 purchase of in East Neck, between the property of Mr. Haulet and Henry
Townsend.SEE: Josephine C. Frost (Ed.)
Records of the Town of Jamacia, Long Island, 1656-1751, 3 Vols. (Brooklyn, NY, 1914), Vol. 1,
p. 21.

SEE: Colonial Families of Long Island, New York and Connecticut (Los Angeles, CA, 1944) by
Herbert Furman Seversmith which indicates that John C. bought the dwelling house and barn lot
of John Strickland of Jamaica on Nov. 8, 1665.
The homestead there served as a family residence.The same source also notes that John C. and
his brother-in-law Nehemiah Smith were overseers of the poor in Jamaica.

SEE: Documentry History of the State of New York, 4 Vols. (Albany, NY, 1849-1851) by
Edmund Billy O'Callaghan which documents the 1664 take over of New Amsterdam which the
Dutch surrendered without a fight and the 1673 battle in which a Dutch fleet attacked Fort James
where the English were compelled to surrender the city.John C. was a Captain of the Jamacia
Fusileers in 1673.
SEE: Ancestry and Descendants of Colonel Solomon Carpenter of Goshen, New York (Machias,
ME, 1974, pp. 20-25).

RECORDS: All the following from Hempstead Town Records of LI, NY.
Vol I - John Carpenter references:
Feb 28 1661 town grants 2 more acres to homelot he bought from John Carman
Feb 3 1663 elected townsman
Dec 14 1663town grants 5 or 6 acreson Strickland Neck
Jan 24 1665 grantor on deed to Abraham Smith; Adam Mott and Eadman Titus witness

Jun 9 1665 sold horses to Thomas Hicks
1665 (no date) sold cattle to Mr ffordham and Samuel Wheller
May 5 1667 bought horses from?
Dec 3 1679 defendant in an unspecified action, John Roads plaintiff
Vol II I do not have acces too unfortunatly
Vol III - John Carpenter references:
Nov 14 1738 Earmarks
Apr 7 1741 granted permission to build a mill
May 3 1749 Grantor on deed to Stephen Chappell 56 acres and 97 rods, mentions
his wife Rachel, witnesses Abraham Southard,Joseph Kissam,Joseph Carman
Some of these references would apply to his son and grandson named John.
Submitted by Phoebe Cortesis of CA via forwarded E-Mail on 6-8-98.

WILL:More will data:
from "Abstracts of Early Wills of Queens County..."
Carpenter, John, Sr., of Jamaica, 10 Nov., 1694. "Being now ancient and crazy in body but
sound in mind." Disposes of many tracts of land. To oldest son, John, ten acres east of the town
beyond John Hansons lot, 13 acres of upland, etc. Sons Hope, Samuel & William have already
had portions. Furniture to Daughter Ruth Ludlam and to grandaughters Hannah and Abigail
Rodes. Ten acres to grandson Solomon Carpenter if he remains with my wife until he is of age,
To son William half the homestead. Son John exr. Overseers Joseph and Nehemiah
Smith. Wits. Andrew Alexander,Samuel Higeby, Samule Smith. Proved 23 May 1695.

John married (1-MRIN:395) Hannah SMITH-589, daughter of William SMITH-4841 and Magdalen-4842 (MRIN:398), about 1655 in , , LI. Hannah was christened on 14 May 1632 in Shute Registers, Devonshire, England. She died before 1680 in Jamaica, , LI, NY and was buried before 1680 in Jamaica, , LI, NY.

MARRIAGE: PER NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES: HANNAH [SMITH?]/[HOPE?]; B 1658,
HUNTINGTON, LI/HEMPSTEAD, LI/JAMACIA, LI.

Hannah's father was a close friend to Capt. William Carpenter. SEE: "The Ancestry and
Descendants of Magistrate William Smith of Jamaica, New York"
(manuscript copy in the Long Island Room, Jamaica Public Library, Jamacia, NY.
SEE also Seversmith in Colonial Families (2:544, 549-50).

AFN NTQ5-GR and BVZK-2G are the same person.
AFN QCZ1-35 Hannah Hope) is also the same person.Records indicate Joseph was only
married twice.
!AFN BVZK-ZG (1628) AND ID # 8MJ2-SM (1630) ARE THE SAME PERSON WITH GJ4N-
7X
(1629).AFN NTQ5-GR also appears to be the same person but with a spouse named Joseph
Carpenter instead of John Carpenter.Is it possible that she married one, had a child (John) then
divorced or left for the other?No.

John also married (2-MRIN:396) Dorothy RHODES-1400, daughter of John RHODES-1401 (MRIN:773), on 9 Feb 1680 in Jamaica, , LI. Dorothy was born about 1658 in of, Jamacia, LI.

LISTED AS "DAU (of) JOHN"

      3       F       ii.       Abigail CARPENTER-107 was born on 31 May 1629 in Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England and was christened on 9 Apr 1643 in Weymouth, Norfolk, MA. She died on 5 Mar 1710 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

Number 22 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 47.

BAPTISIM: Per the American Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4

October 1995, page 2 which gives baptisim date as 31 May 1629, per Bishop's
Transcripts in Shalbourne.This indicates that the date of 9 April 1643 means
she was rebaptised into a New England Church on that date and was not a twin.

NOTE: In the 1600's Shalbourne was part of the Sarum (Salisbury)
parish and administered by Wiltshire even though it is in Berkshire.

E-MAIL:From:Sharilyn Whitaker
11/29/2001Thu 10:26 AM
Subject:[CARPENTER] Abigail d/o Joseph and Margaret Sutton
To:CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com
Jonah Palmer, SR. married Abigail Carpenter TITUS, born 1629, in
Rehoboth 9 November 1692. (See the TAG article by Gene
Zubrinsky, quoting the James S. Elston book for documentation,
also Rehoboth VR 1:95). This Abigail is called "my mother
Abigail Palmer" in the will of her son John Titus, Jr.
Amos B. Carpenter has Jonah Palmer, Jr. marrying Abigail d/o
Joseph and Margaret Sutton on this date, which I discounted as
simply confusion for the above marriage.
Jonah Palmer, Jun'r married Elizabeth Kendrick 28 MAY 1689 in
Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Record #: 1:49
Name: Elizabeth Kendrick
Spouse: Jonah Palmer
Marriage Date: 28 May 1689
A member of this list has told me that this Jonah Palmer, JR
married (2) Abigail d/o Joseph and Margaret Sutton. He so far
has provided no documentation, and no date, and it is not in
Rehoboth VRs that I can see using the on-line version.He also
confirms that Jonah Palmer, SR married Abigail Carpenter Titus
born 1629.
I had hoped that Elizabeth Kendrick was alive and well beyond
the date of the supposed marriage to Abigail d/o Joseph and
Margaret Sutton, but unfortunately it appears that she was not.
Elizabeth Kendrick, the wife of Jonah Palmer, JR. is said to
have died 11 FEB 1691/92 Rehoboth, Bristol, MA 2
2.Abbrev: Rehoboth VR
Title: Vital Record of Rehoboth, Bristol Co.,
Massachusetts, 1642-1896
Author: James N. Arnold
Publication: Narragansett Historical Publishing Co.
Providence, RI; 1897
Images from Search & Research Publishing Corp CD
"Early Vital Records of Bristol County, Massachusetts
to about 1850"; Wheat Ridge, CO; 1998.
Page: p. 858, VR 1-90, Rehoboth Deaths
So, it is possible that Jonah Palmer, JR. could have remarried
someone by the approximate date in question.
I have absolutely nothing on Abigail d/o Joseph and Margaret
Sutton beyond her date of birth. Does anyone else have
documented information about her?
Sharilyn

Abigail married (1-MRIN:111) John TITUS-635, son of Robert TITUS-12508 and Hannah CARTER-12870 (MRIN:450), in 1659/1660 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

John was born on 18 Dec 1627 in St. Katherine's, London, MIddlesex, England. He died on 16 Apr 1689 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried on 16 Apr 1689 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

Both he and his son John were involved in King Phillip's war in 1675.
John was age 8 when he emigrated to New England with his family on the
"Hopewell" in April of 1635 (See: Founders of New England, 17).

The American Genealogist , whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995,
indicates that Abigail was John Titus's only wife having married him about
1649/50.

BOOK: A GENEALOGICAL DICTIONARY of THE FIRST SETTLERS OF NEW
ENGLAND, SHOWING THREE GENERATIONS OF THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE MAY,
1692, ON THE BASIS OF FARMER'S REGISTER.BY JAMES SAVAGE;
TITUS, ABIEL, Newtown, L. I. was s. of Robert.JOHN, Rehoboth, s. of
Robert, b. in Eng. came with his f. perhaps m. a d. of William Carpenter
of the same, wh. in his will of Dec. 1659, makes bequest to his s.
But JOHN, Rehoboth, wh. m. 17 July 1673, Lydia Redway, had Lydia,
b. 1674, may be s. of preced. and his w. was bur. at R. 25 Nov. 1676.
He m. sec. w. 3 July foll. Sarah Miller, had John, b. 12 Mar. 1678;
Hannah, 10 Nov. 1682.JONATHAN, Rehoboth, had Samuel, b. 29 July
1680.* ROBERT, Weymouth, came in the Hopewell, capt. Bundock, in
the spr. of 1635, from London, aged 35, with w. Hannah, 31; ch. John,
8; and Edmund, 5; freem. 13 May 1640; at W. had s. Abiel, b. 17
Mar. 1641; and d. Content, 28 Mar. 1643; rem. to Rehoboth next yr.
Richard Robert Burkhart
may have had other ch. aft. or bef. was rep. 1648, 9, and 50.SAMUEL,
Newtown, L. I. 1644, favor, Conn. jurisdict. and the name is much diffus.
SILAS, Rehoboth, had Silas, b. 12 Aug. perhaps 1679; Mary, 30 Mar.
1681.Sometimes it is writ. Tytus.

Abigail also married (2-MRIN:112) Jonah or Jonas PALMER-643, son of Walter PALMER-14935 and Elizabeth Ann-14934 (MRIN:459), on 9 Nov 1692 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Jonah was born about 1625 in London, , England. He died on 22 Jun 1709 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

AFN 8KDK-NG, 99H2-X9 and GG6B-VW (Jonas or Jonah) are the same person.
Married twice per Carpenter Memorial.First to Elizabeth Grissill in 1657 when
he moved to Rehoboth from Charlestown. He had 6 kids.
He came to America in 1629 with his father (of his father's first wife) to
Charlestown.Was his father William Palmer? SEE Father's notes.

This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File:
Walter /PALMER/ (AFN:7TW0-7X) and Ann /(NICKNAMED)/ (AFN:7TW0-84)
AFN 8KDK-NG, 99H2-X9 and GG6B-VW (Jonas or Jonah) are the same person.
Married twice per Carpenter Memorial.First to Elizabeth Grissill in 1657 when
he moved to Rehoboth from Charlestown. He had 6 kids.
He came to America in 1629 with his father (of his father's first wife) to
Charlestown.

      4       M       iii.       William CARPENTER 4th-103 was christened on 22 Nov 1631 in Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England. He died on 26 Jan 1702/1703 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried in Rehoboth Cem., East Providence, Providence, RI.

Number 18 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 44.Family is number 9 on page 51.
William married twice 1) 5 Oct 1651 to Priscilla Bennett, 2) 10 Dec 1663 to Miriam Searles

(SALE).See below.
BIRTH: Listed as of Southhamptson in Somersetshire.However, probably born in Shalbourne.
AFN C333-TL (B. 1631/1632) is the same person as AFN# FKKD-5V (B. Abt 1633).

BAPTISIM: Per the American Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995,
page 2 which gives baptisim date.

BOOK:- GENEALOGY:Carpenter and Allied Families by Miss Annie L. Carpenter,
The American Historical Society, Inc., NY, published in 1936. Page 16-17
Married to Miriam Sale on 10 Feb 1664 per the above record.

NOTE: He was deputy to the Plymouth Court in 1656.He was elected town clerk of Rehoboth,
MA on May 13, 1668. and held that office until his death, with the exception of one year,
namely 1693.In 1668 he was chosen DEACON of the church.He was a man of superior ability,
accurate in all his business tranactions, and a reliable councillor in the colony.He was also
noted for his superior penmanship, as his writings attest.See the above record for more details.
A Farmer.

CHILD: In one record, a Jedediah Carpenter is listed as a child.Unknown if this is in error.
Listed for now.

SEE: Carpenter Genealogy at:
http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/database/register/defau...
and
http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/database/register/defau...
3-1 William Carpenter's children.
8-1
9-2 ...
SEE: MISC PICS - RIN 103.

William married (1-MRIN:104) Priscilla BENNETT-592, daughter of William BENNETT-14691 (MRIN:401), on 5 Oct 1651 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Priscilla was born on 5 Oct 1631 in of Weymouth, , , England. She died on 20 Oct 1663 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

Died the day her son Benjamin was born.
!In some records her father is listed as Edward Bennett of Rehoboth who may
have been the brother of William Bennett of Sway.

E-MAIL: From:GeneZub@aol.com
Sharilyn,
The JOHN CARPENTER listed as a Rehoboth inhabitant in 1689 would have been
the son of William and Priscilla (Bennett) Carpenter.He and his family
didn't migrate to Woodstock, Conn., until 1692.
JOHN CARPENTER JR. is among those listed as "Proprietor not Inhabitants."
Listed immediately after Joseph and Benjamin Carpenter, he, like them, was
the son of Joseph and Margaret (Sutton) Carpenter of Swansea.He's "Jr." as
the younger of the two John Carpenters on the Rehoboth list.
Eliphalet, Priscilla, and Amos Carpenter were among the eight Rehoboth-born
children of the aforementioned John Carpenter (Sr.) and his wife, Rebecca
(Redway); two more are recorded at Woodstock.Despite Amos B. Carpenter's
claim (p. 64) that a son John was born at Woodstock, there is absolutely no
evidence of it in Woodstock records or elsewhere.
Gene Zubrinsky

William also married (2-MRIN:105) Miriam Sale or Searles SAILE-604, daughter of Edward SALE-1697 and Margaret-1698 (MRIN:409), on 10 Dec 1663 in

Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Miriam was born about 1644 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. She died on 1 May 1722 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried in Rehoboth Cem., East Providence, Providence, RI.

True spelling of name: SAILE or SALE. SE-AR-L-ES is the approximate sounding
of the english version of SALES.SEE "ENGLISH ORIGINS OF NEW ENGLAND FAMILIES"
,
VOL 1, PAGE 102, ITEM 4 "EDWARD SALE or Sarle."

1639 IS AN INCORRECT DATE FOR BIRTH. MIRIAM WAS THE 5TH CHILD OF
PARENTS
MARRIED ABOUT 1636.

MIRIAM, M. AT REHOBOTH, 10 FEB 1663-64, WILLIAM CARPENTER per another record.

      5       M       iv.       Joseph CARPENTER-104 was christened on 6 Apr 1634 in Shalbourne, Berkshire, England. He died on 6 May 1675/1676 in Swansey, Bristol, MA and was buried on 8 May 1676 in Barrington, Providence, RI.

Number 19 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 45.Family on page 58 (#10).

BAPTISIM: Per the American Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995,
page 2 which gives baptisim date.

MARRIAGE: PER NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700, PAGE 135 . . .
JOSEPH MARRIED MARGARET SUTTON (-1700, AE 65); 25 NOV 1655, 25 MAY 1655,
REHOBOTH.Which date is correct is unknown.

SEE ALSO 929.273 C226c A MANUSCRIPT ON THE "DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER" AT THE SAN DIEGO MULTI-REGIONAL FAMILY HISTORY CENTER
FOR DESCENDANTS NOT LISTED HEREIN.

SEE "The Epistle" (Vol. 2, No.12, p 41) He moved from Rehoboth to nearby Swansea about
1662 and was one of the founders of the first Baptist Church in MA (at Swansea) in 1663.

THE SECOND BOAT (Vol. 1 No.1 ) May 1980 indicates Joseph died in RI. The 1898 book
states he was buried near the 100 acre cove in Barrington, RI.

Joseph was one of the founders of the first Baptist church in MA in 1663. He was one of seven
members who contributed to the building of the fourth Baptist church in America located at
Swansey (Swansea).He was also fined 5 pounds and prohibitted from worship for one month in
relation to the building of said church.He moved from Rehoboth to Swansea in 1661 or 1662.
His will was dated 3 May 1675.See pages 45, 46 and 833 of the Carpenter Memorial (1898
book) for detailed notes.

WILL: His will is dated 3 May 1676.In it he mentioned his wife and sons Joseph, Benjamin
and John Carpenter, his daughters and noted that "my wife is with child, (who) shall have his
part in the lands before described."
He appointed his wife executrix and desired that his loving brothers William and Samuel be
overseers.

Joseph married (MRIN:107) Margaret SUTTON-573, daughter of John SUTTON-705 and Juliana LITTLE-706 (MRIN:388), on 25 May 1655 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Margaret was born in 1635 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. She died in May 1676 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried in May 1676 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

SEE JOSEPH CARPENTER'S NOTES.ALSO PER NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR
TO 1700:
MARGARET SUTTON CARPENTER DIED 1700, AE 65. *** THIS IS IN CONFLICT WITH
IGI

RECORDS.
!THE SECOND BOAT (VOL. 1 NO. 1) MAY 1980 INDICATES SHE DIED CA 1700 IN
RHODE ISLAND.

NOTE: early marriage records include a record for a Joseph Carpenter to Margaret SABIN on
Nov. 25, 1655, possibly at Rehoboth.Is it possible that Margaret was a widow?

      6       M       v.       Samuel CARPENTER-27674 was christened on 1 Mar 1636/1637 in Shalbourne, Berkshire, England. was buried on 20 Apr 1637/1638 in Shalbourne, Berkshire, England.

BAPTISIM: Per the American Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4
October 1995, page 2 which gives baptisim and death date.

      7       M       vi.       Samuel CARPENTER-108 was born about 1638/1639 in Weymouth, Norfolk, MA. He died on 20 Feb 1682/1683 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried on 22 Feb 1682/1683 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

BOOK- GENEALOGY: PER "GENEALOGICAL & FAMILY HISTORY OF WESTERN
NEW YORK" LEWIS 1912, PAGE 1318: SAMUEL, YOUNGEST SON OF WILLIAM, WAS
BORN IN REHOBOTH ABOUT 1644, AND DIED THERE 20 FEB 1683.

BIRTH: This was the second Samuel born in the family.He was probably born in late 1638 or
very early in 1639 (probably the former).He was of age when listed in his father's will (proved
April 1659) and could not have been born in 1644.

NOTE: SEE ALSO "NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700" PAGE 136 AND "
BROOKS" PAGE 102: CARPENTER, SAMUEL ( -1683) & SARAH REDAWAY, M/2
GILBERT BROOKS 1687/8; 25 MAY 1660; REHOBOTH.
Rehoboth vital records regarding marriages 1652-1896 on page 78 lists 25 May 1660 as the
marriage date in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

SAMUEL WAS ONE OF THE PURCHASERS OF THE NORTH DIVISION OF THE NEW
REHOBOTH TOWN AND RECEIVED LAND IN THE DIVISION OF 5 FEB 1671. IN 1680
CHOSEN MEMBER TO LAY OUT LAND.HE MARRIED SARAH READAWAY AND
HAD 9 SONS AND 1 DAUGHTER.
SARAH MARRIED GILBERT BROOKS AFTER SAMUEL DIED IN 1683.

BOOK- GENEALOGY: Amos B. Carpenter, A GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF THE
REHOBOTH BRANCH OF THE CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA.Also known as the
CARPENTER MEMORIAL. Published 1898 By: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Amherst,
MA.
SAMUEL is listed as # 23 on page 48.
There is very extensive notes in that record.

Samuel, the son of William and Abigail Carpenter lived in Rehoboth, Bristol,
MA all his life.It was recorded that he advanced money to carry on "Phillips War".This may
refer to the Wamponpag Indian leader which led the indians in the worst New England indian
war, starting in 1675, when three Wampanoag indian warriors were executed for the murder of a
Christian Indian, an informer of an alleged Indian conspiracy against the whites.Phillip, an
indian named Pometacom or Metacomet, the son of Massosoit, became the sachem of the
Wamponoag Indiams in 1662 and followed a peaceful policy for nine years, even though the
indians land was expropiated and they were pushed into a smaller and smaller area.When the 3
indians were tried and executed he declared war.By 1676 however the whites gained strength
and destroyed the indians crops, captured their women and children, including Phillip's wife and
son.Finally, thru bounties, an indian traitor shot Philip near Bristol, RI on Aug. 12, 1676.

E-MAIL:Thu, 7 Jun 2001From: GeneZub@aol.com

Gene Zubrinsky of Ojai, Calif. provided the following insights:
Samuel's birthplace was probably Weymouth, but there is no record to prove it.
Double dates, reflecting both Julian and Gregorian calendars (the former's year began on 25
March), were/are typically written with only the last digit repeated (e.g., 1682/3).Repeating the
first two or three digits (except in cases such as "1689/90" or "1699/1700") is to be avoided
because it risks leaving the impression that the year is one or the other, rather than both.In the
case of Samuel, however, his burial (not death) record gives the date as 20 February 1682—not
1682/3, which would be the correct form only if it had been recorded as such (see Rehoboth VR
[orig.], 1:56 [FHL film #562559]). If independent evidence (e.g., surrounding entries or another
dated document) indicates that it represents Old Style (Julian calendar) dating, then 1682[/3] is
appropriate; if you have only a plausible suspicion that this is so, you may express it as 1682[/3?]
.In all other cases (including this one), present the date as recorded.For a more detailed
discussion of pre-1752 dates and their form of expression, see Donald Lines Jacobus's little
classic, Genealogy as Pastime and Profession, 2d ed. (Baltimore, 1968), 109-13, and/or Robert
Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Vol. 1
(Boston, 1995), 1:xxiv.
The date of Samuel's death is not recorded.
Notes for 512. Samuel Carpenter
<< BIRTH: This was the second Samuel born in the family. He was probably born in late 1638
or very early in 1639 (probably the former). He was of age when listed in his father's will
(proved April 1659) and could not have been born in 1644. >>
This comes from my TAG article (which should be cited) but is not what the article says.My
estimate of Samuel's birth date ("say [less precise than 'circa'] 1638") is based on three factors:
(1) Sarah Redway was about 18 when Samuel married her, in 1660 (if born in 1644, he would
have been no more than 16); (2) if Samuel had been as far from adulthood in Dec. 1658—the
latest his father's will could have been written (it is dated with only the day and month)—as the
1644 birth year claimed for him by Amos B. Carpenter would have made him, his receipt of the
property his father left him would almost certainly have been conditioned upon his coming of
age (this is not the same as saying he had come of age when his father's will was made [the will's
probate date is irrelevant to this issue]); and (3) it is reasonable to assume that he was the next
son born after the death of the first Samuel, at Shalbourne in 1637 (see TAG 70[1995]: 195-97).

NOTE: The following came from the following web site and was Compiled by T.E. Delaney of
the University of Virginia, Anth 401B, Fall 1999:
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/users/deetz/Plymouth/Carpenter.htmlht...
E-MAIL:3 Nov 2001 From: Bruce E. Carpenter"carpenter"
Subject:[CARPENTER] Rehoboth Samuel
The following from someone at the University of Virginia. I hadn't realized the extent of
Samuel's assets.
If I try to visualize 450 acres of land in the vicinity of the Newman church and the old Carpenter
homesteads,
it seems a lot of land. A square mile is 640 acres.
BC
"Samuel Carpenter, Sr., of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony
b: unknown, unknown d:1683, Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony
Compiled by T.E. Delaney
University of Virginia, Anth 401B, Fall 1999
Origin
There is no surviving record of the birthplace of Samuel Carpenter, Sr., or of any details of his
emigration to Plymouth Colony.
Family
Very little is known about the family of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. He was the son of William, Sr.,
(d:1658-59) and Abigail Carpenter (d:1686), and was one of seven children. His siblings

included John, William, Jr., Joseph, Hannah, Abiah, and Abigail. Incidentally, in Joseph
Carpenter's will of 1676, he referred to Samuel Carpenter, Sr., as his "loving brother".
Carpenter married a woman named Sarah, and had at least five children (all sons) with her:
David (b:1675), Soloman (b:1677), Zachariah (b:1680), Abraham (b:1682), and Samuel, Jr. (b:
ca.1660). The records of the court-ordered disposal of Carpenter's estate (since he left no will)
mentions that his relict was left to bring up "four small children," likely referring to David,
Soloman, Zachariah, and Abraham.
Occupations
Although there is no explicit reference to Carpenter's occupation in the archives, an examination
of his probate inventory suggests he was some type of wood-worker: carpenter, joiner, or turner.
Perhaps his trade was passed
down from generation to generation since his forebears originally took the surname "Carpenter".
Samuel Carpenter, Sr., was probably a literate man, since there were four books, worth ten
shillings, listed in his estate inventory of 1683.
Wealth & Estate
Samuel Carpenter, Sr., was a very wealthy resident of Rehoboth. When he died his estate was
valued at £436.5, with his landholdings amounting to over 450 acres. Among his extensive
properties was land "in Commonage in the town of Rehoboth" (surrounding the central village
green), and £110 worth of "housing", orchards, home lot, and pasture opening.
According to his probate inventory, Carpenter owned forty-seven and one half livestock, almost
100 carpentry tools, and seventy bushels of Indian corn.
Public Life & Civic Duties
Samuel Carpenter, Sr., engaged in all of the civic affairs typical for someone of his wealth and
prominence. He served on several juries (1661-1673), and was elected Constable twice (1666,
1677) and Surveyor of the Highways once (1680). He became a freeman by 1670, and was
involved with the disposal of his brother's and sister-in-law's estates (1676, 1678).
Chronology & References
1658 October- 1659 April. Death of William Carpenter, Sr., father of Samuel Carpenter, Sr.
[Simmons, 1996, 357-367]
1661 June 4. Samuel Carpenter, Sr., served on the "Grand Enquest". [PCR 3:214-215]
1666 June 5. Samuel Carpenter, Sr., elected Constable of Rehoboth, with John Perram. [PCR 4:
122-123]
1668 October 29. Report of the coroner's inquest, impaneled to investigate the sudden death of "
an Indian". Samuel Carpenter, Sr., served on this jury, which found that the Indian, "going up
upon a log, and setting his foot upon
the first rail, the rail broke, and he fell down, and his head came first to the ground." Upon
examination, the Indian had a broken neck and broken wrist. [PCR 5:4-7]
1670 May 29. Samuel Carpenter, Sr., listed as a freeman of Rehoboth. [PCR 5:274-278]
1673 November 11. Report of the coroner's inquest, impaneled to investigate the death of Roger
Annadowne. Samuel Carpenter, Sr., served on this jury, which was convened because of
potential foul play in Annadowne's deathAlthough there was publicly-known "strife between
his wife and him" before his death, the jury found no evidence, "no wound or bruise", that might
suggest an untimely demise. [PCR 5:137-141]
1675 April 17. Birth of David Carpenter, son of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. [PCR 8:62]
1676 November 1. Letters of administration granted to Samuel Carpenter, along with his brother,
William Carpenter, Jr., "to administer on the estate of Margaret Carpenter, and to see Joseph
Carpenter's will performed
according to the tenor thereof…" To clarify, Joseph Carpenter died in 1675 or 1676, and his
wife survived him by about two years. [PCR 5:211-212]
1677 June 5. Samuel Carpenter, Sr., elected Constable of Rehoboth, with Thomas Cooper, Jr.
[PCR 5:229-231]
1677 December 23. Birth of Soloman Carpenter, son of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. [PCR 8:66]
1678 March 5. Samuel Carpenter, Sr., his brother, William Carpenter, Jr., declared "overseers of

the estate of [sister-in-law] Margaret Carpenter," and ordered "to dispose of a competent part of
the land of Joseph Carpenter,
Senior, for the use of Joseph Carpenter, Junior…" [PCR 5:251-252]
1680 June 1. Samuel Carpenter, Sr., elected Surveyor of the Highways for Rehoboth, with John
Fitch. [PCR 6:34-42]
1680 July 1. Birth of Zachariah Carpenter, son of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. [PCR 8:72-73]
1683 February. Death of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. He died without a will.
1683 February 20. Burial of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. [PCR 8:78-79]
1683 February 27. Inventory taken of the estate of Samuel Carpenter, Sr., by Daniel Smith,
Captain Peter Hunt, John Pecke, Lieutenant Pecke, and William Carpenter. [Plymouth Colony
Wills, Vol. 4, Part 2, Folios 42-44]
1683 March 5. Inventory of the estate of Samuel Carpenter, Sr., probated, by oaths of Daniel
Smith and James Brown. [Plymouth Colony Wills, Vol. 4, Part 2, Folios 42-44]
1683 March 6. Court-ordered disposal of the estate of Samuel Carpenter, Jr. (he died without a
will). The court named Samuel Carpenter, Jr., William Carpenter, Jr., and relict Sarah Carpenter
to be the administrators of his
estate. [PCR 6:102]
1686. Death of Abigail Carpenter, mother of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. Her estate inventory was
probated in Bristol County. [Sherman 19]
Bibliography
Primary Sources
Plymouth Colony Wills and Inventories, Vol. 1: 1633-1669. Ed. C. H. Simmons.Camden:
Picton Press, 1996. Volume 2, Wills, pages 357-367.
Plymouth Colony Wills and Inventories, Vols. I-VII, 1670-1685. Unpublished compilation, ed.
Patricia E. Scott Deetz. Department of Anthropology, University of Virginia, 1999.
Records of the Colony of New Plymouth in New England [PCR]. 1855-61. Ed. Nathaniel B.
Shurtleff and David Pulsifer. New York: AMS Press, 1968.
Secondary Sources
Sherman, Ruth Wilder, and Robert S. Wakefield. Plymouth Colony Probate Guide, 1620-91.
Plymouth Colony Research Group, 1983. Page 19.

E-MAIL: From:GeneZub@aol.com4 Nov 2001 Sun 5:09 AM
Subject:[CARPENTER] Re: Rehoboth Samuel
<< The following from someone at the University of Virginia. I hadn't
realized the extent of Samuel's assets. If I try to visualize 450 acres of
land in the vicinity of the Newman church and the old Carpenter homesteads,
it seems a lot of land. A square mile is 640 acres.
BC >>
While descendants of Samuel Carpenter may be pleased to learn that he left a
sizable estate, they shouldn't be dazzled into ignoring the inadequacies of
the material in which that information is embedded.As an antidote to that
possibility, I offer the following:
<< Samuel Carpenter, Sr., of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony
b: unknown, unknown d:1683, Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony >>
SAMUEL3 CARPENTER was born in Massachusetts (perhaps Weymouth), say 1638, and
was buried at Rehoboth, 20 February 1682[/3] (TAG 70[1995]:194, 195-97, 204;
orig. Rehoboth VR, 1:56a).
<< Origin
There is no surviving record of the birthplace of Samuel Carpenter, Sr., or
of any details of his emigration to Plymouth Colony. >>
While the first half of this sentence is true, see the above-cited TAG
article for the English origin of his parents and older siblings and for
facts and analysis indicating that he was born in Massachusetts--but not in

Plymouth Colony.Samuel's father, William2 Carpenter, and his family settled
at Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, in 1644.But by 13 May 1640, when William
became a Bay Colony freeman from Weymouth, they had been living at that place
(NEHGR 3[1849]:187 [Weymouth cluster]).And, of course, Samuel's two
youngest siblings, Hannah and Abiah, were born there in 1640 and 1643,
respectively (NEHGR 8[1854]:348; TAG 70:200).
<< Family
Very little is known about the family of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. He was the son
of William, Sr., (d:1658-59) and Abigail Carpenter (d:1686), and was one of
seven children. >>
Samuel's father, WILLIAM2 CARPENTER (b. c.1605, d. Rehoboth, 7 February
1658[/9?]), married at Shalbourne, Wiltshire/Berkshire (the parish straddled
the county line), England, 28 April 1625, ABIGAIL BRIANT (bap. Shalbourne, 27
May 1604, bur. Rehoboth, 22 February 1686/7), daughter of John and Alice
(

---

) Briant (for primary-source citations, see TAG 70:193-94, 203).
Although seven children survived to adulthood, another--the first of their
sons to be named Samuel--was baptized at Shalbourne, 1 March 1636[/7], and
was buried there on 20 April 1637 (TAG 70:194, 204; see ibid. for their
children's proper birth order and baptismal or birth data).
<< Carpenter married a woman named Sarah, and had at least five children (all
sons) with her ... >>
SAMUEL3 CARPENTER married at Rehoboth, 25 May 1660, SARAH READAWAY (variant
of Redway), b. probably at Hingham, Massachusetts Bay Colony, c.1642, d. at
Rehoboth, 15 July 1717, daughter of James1 Redway (orig. Rehoboth VR, 1:44,
2:230; Plymouth Colony Wills, 3:2:77, 4:2:73).They had TEN children
(Rehoboth VR, 1:-- [sorry]; see also Richard LeBaron Bowen, EARLY REHOBOTH, 4
vols. (1945-50), 1:130-32 [correction thereto: son Jacob was still living on
12 May 1701, when he was named in his brother David's will (Bristol Co.
Probates, 2:31)]).Sarah married second at Rehoboth, 18 January 1687[/8],
Gilbert Brooks (orig. Rehoboth VR, 1:48; Rehoboth Proprietors' Records,
2:11).(Note: Bowen's reading of Sarah Brooks's death record as containing
the word "stranger" and the date 8 January 1717/8 is incorrect; these belong
to an adjacent entry [see EARLY REHOBOTH, 1:130n; orig. Rehoboth VR, 2:230].)
<< Among his [Samuel's] extensive properties was land "in Commonage in the
town of Rehoboth" (surrounding the central village green), ... >>
Although I haven't read Samuel's inventory, the "commonage" to which it
apparently refers was almost certainly not land he owned but the undivided
lands owned in common by Rehoboth proprietors.When the proprietors
distributed some of this collectively owned land to themselves in occasional
"divisions" (see Rehoboth Proprietors' Meetings), Samuel was presumably
entitled to receive a share.That is, he owned not commonage but a
"commonage right."(Once a section of common lands had been divided and
distributed, its individually owned, constituent parcels were, by definition,
no longer commonage.)Although a commonage right could be sold as a separate
entity, it originally (and typically) accompanied ownership of a home-lot
(itself originally granted by the town from common lands).Samuel's right of
commonage, if not fractional, probably derived from his having ultimately
come into possession of his father's entire home-lot, half of which he
inherited in 1659 (see Plymouth Colony Wills, 2:1:80-81).The more such
lands were distributed, the further they lay from the "Ring of the Town," the
site of the original settlement (now in Rumford, East Providence, R.I.).
<< 1658 October- 1659 April. Death of William Carpenter, Sr., father of Samuel
Carpenter, Sr. [Simmons, 1996, 357-367] >>

William's will was written "the 10th month the 10th day of the month [NO YEAR
IS GIVEN]" (Plymouth Colony Wills, 2:1:80).In that England and its colonies
used the Julian Calendar until 1752, when William made his will, the 10th
month was not October but December.But in any case, we have a specific date
of death for him: 7 February 1658 (orig. Rehoboth VR, 1:50).The year
probably reflects Old Style dating; if so, it should have been double-dated
as 1658/9 (see below).But since we can't be absolutely certain which
calendar is represented by the single year written, the date should be
written by compilers either as it is found in the record (1658) or with
brackets and question mark (1658[/9?]).
<< 1683 February 20. Burial of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. [PCR 8:78-79] >>
Samuel's date of death is more properly written 20 February 1682[/3].That
the "/3" is bracketed indicates that the original record says 1682 but either
surrounding entries and/or other documentary evidence makes it certain that
the year reflects Old Style (Julian Calendar) dating and that the New Style
(Gregorian Calendar) date was therefore 1683.Since by then the Gregorian
calendar had long since been adopted by virtually everyone but the English,
double dates were often used by them to clarify the year associated with all
dates between 1 January and 24 March (the Julian Calendar year began on 25
March).
<< 1683 February 27. Inventory taken of the estate of Samuel Carpenter, Sr.
...1683 March 5. Inventory of the estate of Samuel Carpenter, Sr.,
probated ... 1683 March 6. Court-ordered disposal of the estate of Samuel
Carpenter, Jr. >>
Same problem.Are these dates in 1682/3 or 1683/4?This can probably be
clarified either by the date(s) these records were recorded and/or by
surrounding records.
<< 1686. Death of Abigail Carpenter, mother of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. Her
estate inventory was probated in Bristol County. [Sherman 19] >>
As above, Abigail (Briant) Carpenter was buried 22 February 1686/7 (orig.
Rehoboth VR, 1:57).
Gene Z.
MORE:From:GeneZub@aol.com
11/8/2001Thu 3:30 PM
Subject:[CARPENTER] Re: dates
<< Didn't Delaney at UV make the wise choice in leaving the dates just as
found them?BC >>
But he didn't.In virtually every instance, the dates he presents are at
odds with the original records.Where citing secondary sources, he
presumably repeats their mistranslations; where citing primary sources (such
as Plymouth Colony Records), he presumably revised the dates himself.And as
it turns out, Mr. Delaney is equally inaccurate in his description of the
contents of Samuel's estate inventory.
<< << Samuel Carpenter, Sr. ... d:1683, Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony >> >>
<< SAMUEL3 CARPENTER was buried at Rehoboth, 20 February 1682[/3] (orig.
Rehoboth VR, 1:56a). >>
Delaney says 1683; the original record says 1682.Adding the bracketed "/3"
expresses that other entries and/or evidence indicates that the recorded date
is Old Style and that the New Style year was 1683.This is a convention of
the leading genealogical journals.
<< << ... William, Sr., (d:1658-59) and Abigail Carpenter (d:1686) ... . >> >>
<< Samuel's father, WILLIAM2 CARPENTER ... d. Rehoboth, 7 February 1658[/9?]
... ABIGAIL BRIANT ... bur. Rehoboth, 22 February 1686/7 ... . >>

For William's death, Delaney says 1658-59; the original record says 1658.
Following Jacobus, we may assume that a pre-1700, single-year date between 1
January and 24 March is Old Style.The brackets and question mark
accompanying "/9" reflect that we nevertheless have no evidence to confirm it
(again, this is a convention of the leading genealogical journals).
(Actually, based on Delaney's later passage, "1658 October - 1659 April.
Death of William Carpenter, Sr.," his use here of "1658-59" probably
represents a date range, rather than a double date [of which he seems
ignorant].)
For Abigail's death, Delany says 1686; the original record says 1686/7.
<< << 1683 February 20. Burial of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. [PCR 8:78-79] >> >>
<< Samuel's date of death is more properly written 20 February 1682[/3]. >>
As above, Delaney says 1683; the original Rehoboth record says 1682.
<< << 1683 February 27. Inventory taken of the estate of Samuel Carpenter,
Sr. ...1683 March 5. Inventory of the estate of Samuel Carpenter, Sr.,
probated ... 1683 March 6. Court-ordered disposal of the estate of Samuel
Carpenter, Jr. >> >>
<< Same problem.Are these dates in 1682/3 or 1683/4?This can probably be
clarified either by the date(s) these records were recorded and/or by
surrounding records. >>
My review yesterday of the relevant original records provides the answers.
The record of Samuel Carpenter's estate inventory says it was taken on 27
February 1682 (Plymouth Colony Wills, 4:2:42).Widow Sarah's oath as to the
inventory's veracity is dated "the fist [1st]" or "fift [5th] of March 1683"
(ibid., 4:2:44).The terms of the estate's distribution were set forth at a
meeting of the Plymouth Colony General Court, the record of which is dated 6
March 1682/3 (Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, ed., RECORDS OF THE COLONY OF NEW
PLYMOUTH IN NEW ENGLAND, Volume 6 [Boston, 1856], p. 102).On the "eight of
March, anno Dom. one thousand six hundred eighty and two, 83," estate
coadministrators William Carpenter, Samuel Carpenter Jr., and their mother,
widow Sarah (Redway) Carpenter, signed a £400 bond ensuring the legal
execution of their fiduciary responsibilities (ibid.).These last two items
make it clear that all four events occurred in 1682/3.But the form in which
compilers should present the single-dated years depends on the year stated in
the original record: since the estate inventory is dated 1682, compilers
should write it as 1682[/3] or 1682 (O.S.); since Sarah's oath is dated 1683,
it should appear in compilations as 168[2/]3 or 1683 (N.S.).
<< << 1686. Death of Abigail Carpenter, mother of Samuel Carpenter, Sr. >> >>
<< As above, Abigail (Briant) Carpenter was buried 22 February 1686/7 (orig.
Rehoboth VR, 1:57). >>
Here, again, Delaney says one thing, the original record says another.
Unfortunately, Delaney's description of Samuel's estate inventory,
particularly the real estate, is also plagued by inaccuracies:
<< Wealth & Estate
Samuel Carpenter, Sr., was a very wealthy resident of Rehoboth. When he died
his estate was valued at £436.5, with his landholdings amounting to over 450
acres. Among his extensive properties was land "in Commonage in the town of
Rehoboth" (surrounding the central village green), and £110 worth of
"housing", orchards, home lot, and pasture opening. >>
The inventory's "Suma totalis," £436 10s. 6d. (436 pounds, 10 shillings, 6
pence), is augmented by a short addendum of items valued at 2s. 6d.Ten
items pertain to lands of specified acreage; they total 220 acres and are
appraised at £128 10s., total.The remaining land-related items are as

follows: (1) "a tract of swamp on the east side of the mill River" (£7 10s.);
(2) "the housing - orchards homelott and pasture pen[n]ing" (£110); (3) "a
share of meddow in the North Side" (£2); (4) "a share of the undevided Land
on the North Side" (£15); and (5) "200 lb. estate in Comonage in the towne of
Rehoboth" (£10).Although the total acreage of item two can't be determined,
Samuel's home-lot comprised 12 acres (Rehoboth Proprietors' Records, 1:13).
It had been granted in 1643 to his father, William2 Carpenter, one of 58
original Rehoboth proprietors.(The size of a home-lot grant [6, 8, or 12
acres] had been based on the value of the proprietor's estate [personal and
real] and family size [Rehoboth Town Meetings, 1:31].Of the 58 original
Rehoboth proprietors, the highest-valued personal estate, £834, belonged to
Richard Wright; William's, at £254 10s., ranked 16th [Rehoboth Town Meetings,
1:5; Rehoboth Proprietors' Records, 1:1-2].)
Items three and four refer to parcels not yet distributed but for which
Samuel, with the many other co-owners of the North Purchase (1661), was
eligible.(In 1694 this tract, also known as the Attleborough Gore, was set
off from Rehoboth as the township of Attleborough.)Item five's "200 lb.
estate in Comonage" implies the means by which Rehoboth proprietors
determined the parcel size of common lands they distributed to themselves in
periodic land divisions.But while Rehoboth Town Meeting Records (1:31)
indicate that it was the value of a man's estate and family size (£12 per
person) that determined his share of divided common lands, even distinguished
Rehoboth historian/genealogist Richard LeBaron Bowen was unable to determine
the specific share or parcel size into which a given expression of one's
commonage right (e.g., "200 lb.") translated.(In that proprietors could buy
and sell commonage rights among themselves, the expression of a man's
commonage right in pounds need not be the same as the value of his actual
estate.)In any case, as with items three and four, this was not land in
Samuel's possession; it was a right to be exercised in divisions of common
lands.It appears from Delaney's estimate of the total acreage Samuel owned
at his death (450) that he mistook this £200 commonage right as 200 acres of
land.
It would consequently seem reasonable to estimate the actual real estate
Samuel owned when he died at roughly 250 acres.That figure may be obtained
in either of two ways: Delaney's estimate of 450 acres minus 200 (his
confusion of a £200 right of commonage with 200 acres of land) or the
inventory's explicitly stated 220 acres plus items one and two.The
respective appraised values of items three, four, and five suggest that the
parcels ultimately received thereby wouldn't be particularly sizable.Over
time, the divisions became fewer and the parcels smaller, less desirable, and
more distant.
Gene Z.
___________________________
MORE:From: JohnF. Chandler"
Nov 8, 2001Thu 4:38 PM
Subject:Re: [CARPENTER] Re: dates
Gene wrote:

February 1682 (Plymouth Colony Wills, 4:2:42).Widow Sarah's oath as to the
inventory's veracity is dated "the fist [1st]" or "fift [5th] of March 1683"

This points up a calendar variation that is seen from time to time,
especially in backwaters like New England of the 17th century -- since
everybody knew March was the first month of the year, some people took
the simplifying approach of reckoning the year to begin on March 1.

This is called March Style.Needless to say, it adds another
complication for modern interpreters, as it is neither Old Style nor
New Style, but sits in between.It was never "official", but that
didn't stop people from using it.

should write it as 1682[/3] or 1682 (O.S.); since Sarah's oath is dated 1683,
it should appear in compilations as 168[2/]3 or 1683 (N.S.).

I think the bracket notation is clearer, since it avoids confusion
over whether "N.S." implies a retroactive Gregorian conversion by the
compiler (a horrible practice that has nonetheless been advocated by
some).

Samuel Carpenter, Sr., was a very wealthy resident of Rehoboth. When he died
his estate was valued at #436.5, with his landholdings amounting to over 450
acres. Among his extensive properties was land "in Commonage in the town of
Rehoboth" (surrounding the central village green),

In many places, though not necessarily in Rehoboth, the term "commonage"
implied a right to pasture a specified number of animals on the common
land, in addition to the claim of a share in any divisions.
John Chandler

Samuel married (MRIN:113) Sarah READAWAY-109, daughter of James REDEWAY-504 and Mary (See notes) WHIPPLE-506 (MRIN:115), on 25 May 1660 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Sarah was born in 1642 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. She died on 15 Jul 1717 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA and was buried in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA.

SARAH HAD 9 SONS AND 1 DAUGHTER BY SAMUEL.AFTER HIS DEATH IN 1683
SHE
MARRIED GILBERT BROOKS. See page 102 of New England Marriages Prior to 1700.
NUMBER 2 MARRIAGE LISTED AS 18 JAN 1687.GILBERT IS LISTED 1621-1695.
SARAH IS LISTED AS REDAWAY ON PAGE 136, READWAY ON PAGE 102, AND
PARENTS
LAST NAMES AS REDWAY/REDEWAY ON 617.ONE RECORD INDICATES SHE DIED
BEF 1705.

SARAH HAD 9 SONS AND 1 DAUGHTER BY SAMUEL.AFTER HIS DEATH IN 1683
SHE
MARRIED GILBERT BROOKS. See page 102 of New England Marriages Prior to 1700.
NUMBER 2 MARRIAGE LISTED AS 18 JAN 1687.GILBERT IS LISTED 1621-1695.
SARAH IS LISTED AS REDAWAY ON PAGE 136, READWAY ON PAGE 102, AND
PARENTS
LAST NAMES AS REDWAY/REDEWAY ON 617.ONE RECORD INDICATES SHE DIED
BEF 1705.

This individual has the following other parents in the Ancestral File:
James /REDWAY/ (AFN:GW44-TL) and /(REDWAY)/ (AFN:GW44-VR)

E-MAIL:Thu, 7 Jun 2001From: GeneZub@aol.com
Gene Zubrinsky of Ojai, Calif. provided the following insights:
Sarah, eldest child of James1 Redway, was born about 1642, probably at Hingham, where her
father had served a three-year term of indenture, beginning in mid-1637.Rehoboth was not
established and settled until 1643 and 1644, respectively.The birth year is an estimate based on
the probable year her father's term of indenture ended (above), the assumption that he did not
marry until the following year, and the recorded date of his second child's birth (10 Dec. 1644).
Sarah died on 15 July 1717 (Rehoboth VR [orig.], 2:230).(Having long ago found a number of
transcrip-tion and page-reference errors in Arnold's Vital Record of Rehoboth, I have since used

nothing but the original records [FHL film #562558 and #562559 (primarily the latter)].In the
case of Sarah [Redway] [Carpenter] Brooks, Arnold (p. 804) inadvertently combines her name
with the date entered in the record immediately below hers, which says, "[blank] White dyed
Jany 8th[,] a strainger – 1717/8."Your date of 29 April 1712 is, of course, even further off the
mark.) (CORRECTED! JRC)
Notes for 513. Sarah Readaway
Sarah's marriage to Gilbert Brooks is recorded as 18 Jan. 1687/8 (Rehoboth VR [orig.], 1:48).

BOOK: A GENEALOGICAL DICTIONARY of THE FIRST SETTLERS OF NEW
ENGLAND, SHOWING THREE GENERATIONS OF THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE MAY,
1692, ON THE BASIS OF FARMER'S REGISTER.BY JAMES SAVAGE;
REDWAY, REDWEY, READAWAY, or REDDAWAY, JAMES, Rehoboth
1646, prob. had John, perhaps more, as Sarah, wh. m. 25 May 1660,
Samuel Carpenter; and was bur. 28 Oct. 1676. JOHN, Rehoboth, prob.
s. of the preced. had James, b. 10 Jan. 1679; and John, 10 Sept 1682.

      8       F       vii.       Hannah CARPENTER-105 was born on 3 Apr 1640 in Weymouth, Norfolk, MA. She died in 1670/1673 in Musceta Cove, Long Island, NY and was buried in 1670/1673 in Oyster Bay, Nassau, NY.

Number 20 on page 46 of the Carpenter Memorial.

See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995
Hannah married Joseph Carpenter, the son of William of "Pautuxet". Hannah was the daughter
of William Jr. of Rehoboth, MA.

AFN 2PN-G8 and SCX6-J2 are the same person.AFN SCX6-J2 and QFBG-LP are the same
person.As is AFN RJSG-Z9.

Hannah married (MRIN:108) Joseph CARPENTER-619, son of William CARPENTER-662 and Elizabeth Peake ARNOLD-663 (MRIN:430), on 21 Apr 1659 in Rehoboth, Bristol, MA. Joseph was born in 1635/1638 in Amesbury, Wiltshire, England. He died on 23 May 1695 in Musceta Cove, Long Island, NY.

Number 2 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.

PER "NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700": PAGE 135:
CARPENTER, JOSEPH ( -1684), ?SWANSEA & 1/WF HANNAH CARPENTER (- ABT1670)
, 1673?); 21 APR 1659; REHOBOTH/MUSKETA COVE, LI.
CARPENTER, JOSEPH (1635-1687) & 2/WF ANN/ANNA WEEKS/SIMKINS (1651- ); B
1674; OYSTER BAY, LI.

PER "160 ALLIED FAMILIES", 1893 REPRINT 1977, AUSTIN: PAGE 56:
SON OF WILLIAM AND ELIZABETH ARNOLD CARPENTER. SECOND WIFE LISTED
AS ANN WICKS
DAUGHTER OF FRANCIS AND ALICE WICKS. JOSEPH DIED 1683 AND ANN WICKS
DIED 1692+.
HANNAH (FIRST WIFE) DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM AND ABIGAIL CARPENTER.

WILL: Will made out in 1683.One record gives 1695 as death date. Will administered July 9.
1684.

NOTE: Some 20 children are credited to him by at least two possibly three wifes. Which child is
which and which is duplicated is unknown at this time.

In the Carpenter Chronicles, Vol 26, (Sept. 1996) a Signe. N. Parrish claims decent from this
Joseph.From age of children et cetera, Amos as child to Joseph is probably wrong.He most
likely was a grandchild, but by whom is
unknown.Temporary connection.

AFN 30Z7-PN and RJSH-H1 are the same person.AF has him dying in Oyster Bay, Nassau,
NY.

The 1898 book also indicates he died at Musceta Cove, an indian word for Mosquito Cove, in
1693 and that his wife Hannah died there too.
The five purchasers of Musketa Cove were Joseph Carpenter, Nicholas Simpkins and the
brothers Daniel, Robert and Nathaniel Coles, sons of Robert Coles of Pawtuxet, RI.A Map
drawn in 1677 showed that the only Carpenters on Musketa Cove were the brothers Joseph and
Ephraim Carpenter.Joseph owned the
site of the first house built in Musketa Cove about 1668. Adjacent to his land was the land of
Daniel Coles, son of robert Coles of Pawtuxet.
Amos B. Carpenter stated in the Carpenter Memorial he was never ever able to substantiate any
migration from Wales to Long Island in 1678, supporting the determination that the brothers had
orginated in Providence.James Usher indicates in his 1883 record a Carpenter family that was
descendant of Caleb Zimmerman of Prussia that went to England as a "Friend" and his
descendants went to Wales then America to Long Island.

Sources: Also: Thomas C. Cornell, Adam and Anne Mott: Their Ancestors and Descendants
(Poughkeepsie, NY 1890), p. 255; Mather, p. 287; Records of Louise Carpenter Licklider;
Records of Ruth Carpenter Adair; William Wade Hinshaw, Encylopedia of American Quaker
Genealogy (Ann Arbor, MI, 1950), 6 vols., Vol. 3.; The Epistle, August 1975, p. 20.

A map drawn in 1718 shows a Survey of Westchester County, NY for a Joseph Carpenter and a
Bennonah Merit.Joseph the largest landowner shown, had two tracts, the first and second
purchases.Timothy Carpenter's land was shown below Joseph's last purchase, where the town
of Armonk now is located.The land of William and Silas Carpenter was further south.
If Joseph died in 1693 or 1695 it could not have been him who requested the survey above.His
son Joseph died abt the same time period.It had to be his grandson Joseph (B. 1685) or another
non-related Joseph Carpenter.

BOOK: See page 9-11 of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF
ENGLISH ORIGIN
THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER -
PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.

Subject: Short history of Joseph Carpenter
Date: 99-05-03 18:58:16 EDT
From: LMORE@worldnet.att.net (Lawrence Gordon More)
To: JRCRIN001 (John R. Carpenter)
John,
I have a number of unanswered questions about the establishment of the Long Island Quaker
colonies myself. I have read several versions that vary, hopefully some day a person, unbiased,
will set down with a good
translation of the Dutch records, and pertinent genealogical records, and set the story to pen.
There seem to be quite a number of players in the story, such as John Bowne, a number of
passengers of the Woodhouse, Roger
Williams, Captian John Underhill, at least two Dutch Govenors, both Dutch and English soldiers
and the Indians of the Island, and still many more, but I have as yet to hear the whole sotry told.
Larry More.
Here is a short history of Joseph Carpenter and a few decendants, refferences are at the end.

(II) Joseph, eldest son of William and Elizabeth (Arnold) Carpenter, was born at Amesbury,
Wiltshire, England, about 1635. The first mention made of him is at Providence, Rhode Island,
where on May 3, 1656, he is witness to
a deed from his uncle, Stephen Arnold, to his father, which indicates that he was then of legal
age. The town records of Warwick, Rhode Island, show that he had a "corne mill" at the wading
place near the Falls on the Pawtuxet river. Here he remained until 1677, although as early as
1663 he was at Long Island making negotiations for the purchase of land from the Indians at
Oyster Bay. The Hempstead colony on Long Island resisted the attempts to settle at Oyster Bay,
but finally allowed them to remain in peace. Joseph Carpenter is recorded as having purchased
3000 acres of land at Musketa Cove. Associated with him were Nathaniel Coles, Abia Carpenter,
Thomas Townsend and Robert Coles. They styled themselves "The Five Proprietors of Musketa
Plantations," which name and style was continued until after the revolution. Each proprietor had
a "home lott" of five acres set off on which to erect a dwelling. These home lots were situated on
a street or highway that they called "The Place." The site of these homes on this street, which
still bears the name, are very readily identified. On the "lott of Joseph Carpenter" the first house
was built after the erection of a saw mill. It was occupied by him all his lifetime, was the
birthplace
of nearly all his children, and continued in the family for several generations. The plantation
prospered, although its growth was retarded by King Philip's war. Following the erection of a
saw mill he burt a grist and
fulling mill, agreeing with the other proprietors to grind their grain in return for the use of water
power. In a few years the Oyster Bay settlement had its own town government, constable,
overseers, justice of the peace and
recorder. They held their own town meetings and elected their own officers until the
organization of Queens county in 1683. They had many industries, and the records show Joseph
Carpenter to have been the prime mover in their
establishment, and that his energy and ability had made a thriving community from an humble
beginning. He died during the "sickly season" of 1683. The place of his burial is not known. He
married (first) April 21, 1659, Hannah, daughter of William Carpenter, of Rehoboth,
Massachusetts; she was born at Weymouth, Massachusetts, February 3, 1640, died about 1673.
He married (second) Ann (or Anna), baptized in the Dutch Church at New York in 1647,
daughter of Francis and Elizabeth (Luther) Weeks. Francis Weeks was with Roger Williams in
the canoe when he first landed at Providence. He and his wife were early settlers of Hempstead,
Long Island, where they were heavily fined for "entertaining Quakers," and soon after removed
to Oyster Bay.
Children by first wife: 1. Joseph, "the eldest son," inherited the estate and title of his father. 2. A
daughter, married William Thornecraft, 3. Tamsen, married John Williams. 4. William, born
about 1666. 5. Nathaniel, said to have been the first white child born at Musketa Cove, Oyster
Bay, Long Island; married Tamar, eldest daughter of Robert and Mercy (Wright) Coles. 6.
Hannah, married Jacob Hicks. Children of second wife: 7. Ann, married Joseph Weeks. 8.
Benjamin, married Mercy, daughter of Robert and Mercy (Wright) Coles, sister of the wife of
his half brother, Nathaniel. 9. John (posthumous child), married Martha Feake. These children
were all prominent in the plantation, and some of them joined in the exodus from Oyster Bay to "
the Main," as Westchester county was then called, and were among the first settlers at Rye,
North Castle, Bedford, Harrison and Mamaroneck. Other families leaving about 1700 were the
Coles, Weeks, Lallings, Wrights, Townsends, Cocks and many others.
(III) Joseph (2), eldest child of Joseph (1) and Hannah (Carpenter) Carpenter, was born about
1660, at Pawtuxet, and inherited the paternal estate, operating a mill and the plantation. There is
a tradition that he was drowned trying to save the mill in a freshet. At any rate he died between
September 9, 1687, and 1692. His wife Ann was probably a daughter of Thomas Thornycraft.
Record of two sons is found: Joseph, mentioned below; Thomas, born August 15, 1687. (IV)
Joseph (3), eldest son of Joseph (2) and Ann Carpenter, was born October 16, 1685, at Pawtuxet,
the date being recorded at Oyster Bay, New York, probably to authenticate his heirship to one-

fifth of the Musketa Cove patent. Five days after he came of age he deeded to his uncles,
William and Nathaniel, farms in that section. His adult life was passed at Oyster Bay, and in
1707 he instituted suit to recover property in Rhode
Island formerly belonging to his greatgrandfather, William Carpenter. This suit was successful.
He resided on the homestead at Pawtuxet until about 1715, when he sold out and moved across
the Cove to Lot No. 1, in the
division of 1681, which is now in the village of Sea Cliff. His house was burned by lightning in
1747-8, after which he sold the land for o225 and retired to the village of Jericho, where he died
June 3, 1776, at the house of his grandson, Joseph Carpenter. He was a sincere member of the
Friends Society, often occupying places of trust and responsibility in the town and was noted for
his charitable character. To his benevolence many worthy
persons were indebted for substantial aid at the proper time.
He married (first) in 1707, Ann, daughter of Captain Andrew and Ann (Coddington) Willett.
She died February 9, 1709, and he married (second) in 1711, her sister Mary, born September 21,
1691. She was a granddaughter of Colonel Thomas Willett, born 1610, at Borley, Hertfordshire,
England, and came to Plymouth, Massachusetts, in 1629. Later he was at New Amsterdam, and
was the first English mayor appointed over the city of New York, 1665. The Dutch soon after
reoccupied New Amsterdam, and he retired to Swansea, Massachusetts, where he died August 4,
1674. He was a man of much character and ability and still has numerous descendants in the
vicinity of New York. He married (third) in 1636, Mary, daughter of John Brown, a pioneer of
Plymouth, Massachusetts.
Andrew, son of Thomas and Mary (Brown) Willett, was born at Plymouth, and was a merchant
at Boston, whence he removed about 1680 to Rhode Island. As early as 1692 he returned to
Boston and occupied a residence on Boston Neck which was built by his brother-in-law, John
Saffin, speaker of Massachusetts assembly. While residing in Rhode Island he represented
Westerly in the general court. He married Ann, daughter of Hon. William
Coddington, of Newport, and among their children were daughters Ann and Mary, who married
successively Joseph Carpenter, as above noted.
(V) Ann, daughter of Joseph (3) and Mary (Willett) Carpenter, born September 24, 1716, died
1803, married October 8, or December 23, 1737, at Oyster Bay, Samuel Underhill of that town
(see Underhill IV).
SEE: New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Volume IV Author: William Richard
Cutter, 1913 Page 2032, 2033, 2034.
!SEE: The following data is from a web page on Glen Cove. (submitted by John L. Carpenter of
NH.
A bit of the Hamlet of Musketa Cove, Town of Oyster Bay (now known as the City of Glen
Cove) early history concerning a young Rhode Island inhabitant named Joseph Carpenter who
purchased 2,000 acres of land on May 24, 1668 in the then northwest section of the Town of
Oyster Bay from the Matinecock Indians in order to erect a saw mill. "On May 24, 1668, a
young Rhode Island inhabitant named Joseph Carpenter purchased 2,000 acres of land to the
northwest of the Town of Oyster Bay from the Matinecock Indians. His intention was to erect a
saw mill and furnish New York City with lumber desperately needed for the construction of
housing.
Carpenter took in as partners in his venture three brothers: Robert, Daniel and Nathaniel Coles,
who were also former inhabitants of Rhode Island living in Oyster Bay; and Nicholas Simkins,
also of Oyster Bay.
These five businessmen chose to retain the place-name by which the Matinecock Indians had
known the area, and therefore styled themselves "The Five Proprietors of Musketa Cove
Plantation." Musketa (also spelled
"rnusquito") translates from the Matinecock's language to roughly mean "the place ofrushes."
Within a rather short time, the "Five Proprietors" had dammed a small stream that ran through
the valley, whose course is roughly paralleled by Glen Street today. This dam was located near
the foot of Mill Hill, slightly northeast of the present fire department on a spot marked by a

memorial plaque.
On the dam was erected the saw mill, which by an early. covenant between the "Five Proprietors"
was jointly owned by each of them, and a small grist mill which was constructed by Joseph
Carpenter under the condition that he grind the grain of the other proprietors "well and tolle free
for ever."
(Millers were remunerated for their services by receiving a percentage of the finished flour as
payment... usually about 10 per cent).
The lumber produced by the saw mill found a ready market in New York City, which had used
up most of the indigenous trees on Manhattan Island rather quickly. By l679, just two years after
Carpenter's purchase from the
Indians was officially ratified by the colonial New York govemment, the mill was producing
nine different thicknesses of boards and timber, as well as tile laths, shingle laths, wainscott, "
feather-edged" boards for
panelling, and custom-cut walnut for cabinet-making.
A small portion of the mill's accounts were recorded in the "Musketa Cove Proprietor's Book," a
hand- written record of the early settlers' land transactions and agreements. The accounts
indicate that one of the major
purchasers of Musketa Cove lumber was Jacob Leisler, a prosperous New York City merchant
who would, in 1689, overthrow the colonial government of the colony and, in 1691, would be
executed for treason.
However, it appears that Leisler did not forget his acquaintances in Musketa Cove during his
reign as ad-hoc governor in New York, he appointed Robert Coles as Captain in the Oyster Bay
Militia."
Early History of Glen Cove - City of Glen Cove Web Site.
The above information obtained from the City of Glen Cove web site:
http://www.glencove-li.comhttp://www.glencove-li.com.

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