Kaminka family,as well as Kamsa tribe in Colombia may decend from Kame, the 10th descendant Manko Inca's brother Ayar Toba Gochi ,also called Kachi,founder of Tob'-Goch empire in Siberia .
Kamsa people namely, believed to be the successors of Killlasenka in the region ,are also called Koche and Gachi ,yet two more versions of the name . Some of them are also referred to as Kotze,what may be derived from Ayar Gochi's 3rd grandson's name,who was Kotz'ibaha ,read perhaps Kotze-Hibara .
The language of the tribe seems to be related to Manjurian and through it to Nandi dialects ,wherefor Killasenka name could in their case be understood as Kile-Asya-Inka ,in what Kile is an Ewenki self-designation of one of their groups,and Asya may refer either to Asia or to river As ,which is the Ob, that was the border of Asia for ling time . A clan of Nganasans still uses that name for themselves .
Kamasya ( Kame-Asya ) tribe among Nandis thus may also be related to the Inkas of Kile people , and their ancestors might have emgirated together with Inkassana ( Inka-Asya-Na ) or Ingassana people from Taymir . The latter was given another name of Ayar Toba used in Arabia : Taym ,king of Samud .
Neschango ancestors might have also had interests in Manchuria because Changos in Chile were also called Kamanchaco what may be derived from Khan-Manchu-Kuo too .
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