Willem Schalk van der Merwe, SV/PROG - Van der Merwe Stamboom

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I did, it means my mom and dad are related 8 generations down. That is why I was wondering if he was the only van der Merwe that came to Cape Town.

Lol Lizzy. At least half of all the South African tree is related to Willem Schalk more than once. Myself included. Now you know why there are all those van der Merwe jokes.
It is most clearly seen on a HistoryLInk pie chart. Have you tried that?

In this article "Deconstructing Jaco: Genetic Heritage of an Afrikaner" http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2007.00363.x... Greeff says he's related to Willem 30 x over!!

:-) Thank you Sharon Doubell

Louis George Reynolds, that conversation is a bit difficult to follow. Can you explain it to us? (The FB link goes to Qian Yang & the familytree dna link comes up as an error.)

I understand this much: The USA vdMerwe descendants & the SA vdMerwe descendants have different Y DNA markers. (ie either the two family lines are from people who were unrelated but both called vdMerwe; or someone's wife was unfaithful.) Who was tested to show this?

This is very interesting about our mutual grgrandfather; so I'd like us to be able to follow it up.

An internet search produced this conversation on the matter: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA/2006-05/...

Hi Sharon Doubell. I am going to brake the conversation up in parts as it developed.

Louis George Reynolds
6/15/2015 at 4:42 PM
Managers of Willem Schalk van der Merwe, SV/PROG,

I am contacting you about this profile: http://www.geni.com/people/Willem-Schalk-van-der-Merwe/600000000158....

I contacted Lord Diederick van der Merwede about using his info...... this was his anser: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Lord-Diederick-van-der-Merwede/23130...:..................................

Good Morning, I am Attela Hyman (Greeff), but my mother is from the v.d. Merwe descent.I am doing the v.d. Merwe/van Zyl/Burger Family Tree plus 2 other trees. I really like your page and would like to share this with the v.d. Merwe on my page......as your work.

His reply:
Much success and thank you for the honor, although know that our family foundation in the US has find out that the van der Merwe s in holland and in South Africa has different kind of DNA then the van der Merwede family .... done by scientific lab .....so we must say they cannot come from our ancestor Lord Diederick van der Merwede, despite the many stories.

My answer:It is a bit difficult to explain...... my e/mail address is attela@orcawireless.co.za. If I just name My grandfather and his father and his father and so on...... till you can follow it up.
Izak Hermias van der Merwe 1898 -1988 Jacobus Adriaan van der Merwe 1865 -1947 Frans, Jacobus Wilhelmus van der Merwe a1b3c102e8fg1h5
Jacobus Adriaan van der Merwe a13c10d2e8fg1 Schalk Willem van der Merwe a1b3c10d2e8f1 Carel Aaron van der Merwe c1771 -1850 Schalk Willem van der Merwe 1735 -1778 Izaak van der Merwe 1711 -1777 Schalk Willemzoon van der Merwe b2 1673 - 1740 Willem Schalk van der Merwe SV/PROG c 1640 -1716 Schalk Willemsz van der Merwe c 1620 -d Willem van de Merwe c 1602 -1629 Willem van de Merwe (van der Merwe (1571 -1634) Schalk van de Merwe (van der Merwe) c 1547 -d) Jan van der Merwede 1488 -1580 Daniel van der Merwede 1445 -1512 Diederik 'Dirck' van der Merwede, heer van Meeuwen c 1383 - c1452
Ek dink is tog wel familie.Sy vrou was Catherine van Uitwijk en sy pawas Nicolaas II van der Merwe, Heer van Burgst. 1335 -1392. Ek hoor graag van u. (I GOT EXCITED AND SPOKE AFRIKAANS)

His reply:
Yes thats true, by the way thought it was Betrade van Uitwijck, not his wife but his boele, Chaternie van Ranst was his wife.... and yes i know this genealogy myself.... Jaap van der Merwe I knew .... but fact is that recent DNA investigation did not match with our family at all smile emoticon So whats wrong ?
https://www.familytreedna.com/…/van%20der%20M…/default.aspx…
Family Tree DNA - van der Merwede Y-DNA Study
For genealogy within the most recent fifteen generations, STR markers help define paternal lineages. Y-DNA STR markers change (mutate) often enough that most men who share the same STR results also share a recent paternal lineage. This page displays Y-Chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) STR results for the proje…
familytreedna.com
Chat Conversation End

The link he gave:
Family Tree DNA - van der Merwede Y-DNA Study
For genealogy within the most recent fifteen generations, STR markers help define paternal lineages. Y-DNA STR markers change (mutate) often enough that most men who share the same STR...
FAMILYTREEDNA.COM

My question to Managers of Willem Schalk van der Merwe, SV/PROG,:

Then all our links in this family line of the van der Merwes are wrong????

I really hope you can solve this.........or are we barking at the wrong tree!
Attela Hyman (Louis George Reynolds Hyman)

Attela Hyman.

So this is the answer then............nobody is sure yet? Attela Hyman
From: George van der Merwede <george@vandermerwede.org>
Subject: van der Merwe DNA Project
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 09:34:15 -0600

Hi everyone,

We are trying to unravel the connections of the various surname
variations that supposedly branched off the van der Merwede family. Due
to the lack of any documentation linking van der Merwede / van der Merwe
and van de Merwe (Netherlands) we are running Y-DNA tests to determine
what if any relationship exists. Presently we have (2) van der Merwede
males, (1) van de Merwe (Netherlands) and (1) van der Merwe (S.A.). We
need more test subjects for accurate analysis.

We have started a DNA project study for the decendants of Daniel van der
Merwede born 1180 A.D. This study is for male participants that are, or
believe to be decendants of Daniel van der Merwede. Y-DNA passes from
father to son virtually unchanged with only 1 marker mutation occuring
every 500 generations on average. So male direct line descendants will
have virtually the same dna pattern.

The lab performing the DNA testing is Family Tree DNA. They offer 12.
25, 37 and 59 marker tests. This lab is the same one used by the
National Geographic Society's Genographic Project. They perform the most
accurate DNA tesing in the field.

Anyone interested can visit the Merwede Foundation Website at:
http://www.vandermerwede.org/genealogy/dna.php "Stichting van der
Merwede DNA Project" or to sign up for testing at:
http://www.ftdna.com/surname_join.asp?code=T57324&amp;special=True&...
<http://www.ftdna.com/surname_join.asp?code=T57324&amp;special=True&...;;

Any questions you may have please email:
http://www.vandermerwede.org/genealogy/suggest.php (George van der
Merwede - Project Manager)

groetjes
George van der Merwede

So, you're looking for Y DNA descendants (ie not just any male descendants?) of Ridder Daniel III Danielsz van der Merwe?

History Link (http://historylink.herokuapp.com/) shows direct Y-DNA descendants who are current Geni users as:
*Lourens Petrus van der Merwe
*Christiaan van der Merwe
*Laubscher van der Merwe
*Private User
*Theodoris van der Merwe
*Izak van der Merwe

I think we need to connect this discussion to the Geni projects for:
* Van der Merwe Genealogy in SA: http://www.geni.com/projects/Van-der-Merwe-genealogy-of-South-Afric... and
* SA Y-DNA Progenitors: http://www.geni.com/projects/South-African-Y-DNA-Male-Progenitors/1...