Agnes Borthwick - Daughter of 3rd or 4th Lord William Borthwick?

Started by Sharon Doubell on Saturday, July 15, 2017
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7/15/2017 at 7:56 AM

Should Agnes Borthwick be the daughter of William, third Lord Borthwick rather than of
William Borthwick, 4th Lord Borthwick as she is shown now?

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7/15/2017 at 9:47 AM

The identity of Agnes Borthwick is uncertain. However, it seems quite unlikely, improbable even, that she was a daughter of the fourth Lord Borthwick. After all, the fourth lord does not appear to have been married until 1491 http://clanborthwick.com/lineage12.htm whereas Agnes was already the wife of David Kennedy on 9 July 1489 https://archive.org/stream/registrummagnisi02scot#page/395/mode/1up Agnes Borthwick died before 9 August 1509, by which date her widowed husband had already married for a second time to Margaret Boyd, the dowager Lady Forbes https://archive.org/stream/registrummagnisi02scot#page/721/mode/1up

7/15/2017 at 11:37 AM

I agree.

7/17/2017 at 5:05 AM

Thankyou for the comprehensive and well-researched update to her profile, Private User. I've moved her accordingly, and added a Curator note.

If we can verify their children, I will lock the profile's relationships.

Private User
7/17/2017 at 5:19 AM

Dear Sharron,

I am pleased that you have accepted my proposal. The Kennedy family is not at the top of my list at the moment but I will try to have a look at the evidence for Agnes Borthwick's children at some point in the future.

Can I point out that someone has posted a "Confirmed Match" which is wrong. The same is also included in "Sources". I don't suppose that this is particularly important, although it might mislead other researchers, but it is untidy.

Kind Regards,

Neil

7/17/2017 at 5:35 AM

I've undone the erroneous confirmed match. Thanks for noticing.

If you get to the kids, just call me back to lock for you. Until then, this is a lot better than it was :-)

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