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Started by Private on Wednesday, September 20, 2017
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I have posted this to the community help forums, but, like another question I posted to community help a month ago it went unanswered SOOOO, I am trying here to see if I will have any better luck.

Here is the situation: my husband and I have both done dna (family finder through ftdna) and shared it with Geni through the link on the ftdna page. We have each also put our family trees on Geni. Of course, being married there is overlap within our family trees. I have his family and he has mine.

What happens with me is I get a message that says I have a new dna match on Geni, so I go there and check it out and then I click the link at the top of that persons profile that says "find path" -- to find out how I might be related to that person.

After a while it comes back with some long, convoluted thing that begins with me then goes TO MY HUSBAND and then his family etc. The most recent one actually said that MY DNA MATCH was related thus: your husbands aunts brothers sons wifes brothers nephew..... I mean this went on and on! I was going to copy and paste it except that I would have to remove the users name and will copy and paste if need be.

My question is WHY are all of my matches being routed through my husband?? We are not related (hello, not only are we from different areas of the country, we have had our dna tested!!) so why, why, why do all of my "paths to relationship" start with me and then go ->your husband?? Are we living in the dark ages??

I might understand this if we were talking just record matches or tree matches. When both families have Smiths and Jones' and Johnson's sure... records are all going to show up.

I am talking DNA here. I do not share dna with my husband therefore IF Geni says I have a dna match then that persons family tree (if they have one) should NOT be a tree that routes through my husband's family. The only family members we share in common are our children.

your husband's third great aunt's husband's uncle's wife's nephew's wife's first cousin four times removed's wife's granddaughter 3rd Cousin Once Removed to 5th Cousin
Overlap: 32.2 cM
Longest segment: 8.1 cM

Just to clarify the situation a bit more; when my husband gets a dna match it DOES NOT go through me at all. None of his matches do, whereas all of my matches seem to go through him when I click "find path".

The relationship path goes through the tree. Your tree seems to top at Joseph Avery

So Geni finds a tree relationship through your husband's side.

I have DNA matches that are predicted 4th cousins (as example) but we don't know how, we're missing Geni profiles. But there's enough world tree density to find by marriage connections.

Cecile, like Erica said, relationship paths don't use DNA, they are connections in the tree. Your side of the tree is very small, (you have mere 24 blood relatives) and it doesn't connect anywhere. It would be a standalone tree if you weren't connected to your husband. His tree, on the other hand, is very extensive (in excess of 5,000 blood relatives) and connects to many other branches of the World Tree. The only way you can get a path to anyone outside your immediate family is through him.

DNA matches are just that, indication that somebody's DNA is similar to yours, implying that they are (probably) a relative. But it can't tell you how you are connected to them, you have to find the path through the tree.

You have many DNA matches. If you want to find out how you are related to them you need to add more ancestors to your side of the tree, you will eventually hit overlaps with other branches, and once you merge with them the floodgate of connections will suddenly open up.

I understand what both of you are saying. When my husband first joined Geni several years ago he was able to upload his gedcom. When I joined a few months ago it seemed like it was not possible to upload gedcoms any more and trees had to be done individual at a time -- I believe there was a message on this when I first joined and I was looking for the "upload gedcom". THAT is why all of MY ancestors are not yet in my tree as it is a bit of a tedious process to copy all of that information into yet another genealogy/dna website.
IF I have missed something (and that is very very possible) and I can upload my gedcom I do wish someone would tell me how as my genealogy does NOT stop with my great grandparents!!

Now...as to my original question. I'm sorry but I still do not understand how a person who is supposed to be a dna match to me is being found via a relationship through my husband. None of these people are dna matches to him. IF I don't have enough information in my tree to create a path wouldn't it be better for it to say "no path"?
I think I would prefer "no path" to people being routed through my husband....no offense to him of course :)
So if someone knows how I can upload my full gedcom OR un-merge my tree from my husbands.

So I have just done a bit of research and found that there is NO WAY to upload a gedcom. Geni no longer allows it. They do have a system called "smart copy" BUUUUUUT of course one has to be a "pro" member to use that feature.
At this point I'm thinking that deleting all of my information and disconnecting is the best option for me. It has really been more frustration than I need to deal with. I have my tree and dna on other sites that are more user friendly and that (in my opinion) make more sense.

It is no longer necessary to be a PRO to use smart copy. Please see that project for details on how to use it.

If your Avery's are from "the Hive of Avery's" in Connecticut, you will find on Geni a fairly complete tree I can likely attach your tree to, not much more data entry needed.

Sure, it would be nice to have a blood line only relationship calculator. There's a lot of genealogical value though in the way geni's calculator is set up, I've found it helpful.

Oh, and if your Avery's are from the New Hampshire Avery's, we're probably related. :)

My Avery's are the NY Avery's primarily Ulster County. There has been debate over whether the Ulster County Avery's are related to Groton CT Avery's. I think both sides are still trying to get more males to do ydna to come up with a definitive answer on that.

My most distant Avery that I know for sure (as mentioned in the above posts) was Joseph Avery (his name is also seen as Every is some censuses) born 1825 in Delaware County but he lived and raised his family in Ulster County.

I will continue trying to look into smart copy, but I did spend the better part of Saturday looking into it and could not find a way to use it. I kept being blocked (as most things I try on Geni) by messages of needing to subscribe. It is (well, was) very frustrating. I have pretty much gotten over my frustration deciding that it is not worth it since there are other sites I can go to.

Link to the Project: https://www.geni.com/projects/SmartCopy/18783

among info there:
To perform tree-building (copying of relatives) a Curator needs to grant you rights on SmartCopy. ... A curator can also revoke these rights if they feel the user is not being responsible, such as creating large duplication in the world tree. Users are expected to review for and avoid creating duplicates, merge or delete profiles when duplicates are created, and attempt to work through relationship conflicts that may arise (get curator assistance if necessary).

The user is responsible for obtaining any required permission from the creator of the work, such as biographies or images. Be aware of what you're copying and respectful of copyright.

--NOTE: If you were trying to use it without first being granted permission by a Curator, it wouldn't work. [they give a link to a Thread specifically for asking for such permission - or I imagine you could ask Erica or Oton who have posted here]

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