Anne Retif, SM/PROG - Sources for parents?

Cutting, pending sources.

I see it was reinstated, and Anne cut off from her brother Francois Retif, SV/PROG.

Please - someone help with the sources if you want to reinstate these parents.

Private do you have this info on our granny's parents?

Daan Botes?

Sharon see here.
https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/family-tree-wilferd-duckitt/I600...

Hope it helps.

I do have other sources but don't have time to look now.

Please reinstate all family members.

Thank you.

JUdi

Sharon Doubell I have reinstated her with her parents but her siblings are still missing.

I only worked on her profile for now. It doesn't show that she was disconnected from her siblings.

Maybe when you merged the new profile into hers, that disappeared.

Kindly let me know where I can help.

This is both my own as well as my husband GGM. The original research was paid for and done for me by the Hugenote Sentrum way back in 1990 so I really have to dig hard for my sources, but just can't do it today.

Stay safe.

Judi

Duckiit family on genealogie -- no source for parents just link to PN Retif on First Fifty years at the Cape project

Both Jacques and Anne my gg grandparents.

Information on Wifred Duckitt Genealogie actually have no source .
Source is PN Retif ?
Sharon you are right so far NO source for parents .

Private. Yes, we need some sources.

Wilfred's source is this: http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/g7/p7542.htm - ie NO Parents

This is all our great grandparents, and I'd love it to be right. Without sources it's just as easily more pie in the sky SA Huguenot vanity ancestry.

What is a reasonable amount of time for you to find those sources? This request is 2 years old - and the line leads to more unsourced people above them.

Is two weeks enough?

Sharon Doubell I will start looking for my sources but don't want to pay again. Costs are high.

I am just very busy with home and work stuff as well as a very ill son in the house.

Above them I can't go now.

Stay ell.

Judi

Here is quite a bit from that time, if any of you can read French.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=Debo...

Judi

Have you read the piece on the more?

Maybe that can shed some light.

J

Starting over. Lost the piece I typed.
Sharon Doubell found the research I got from Hugenote years ago on the Retief family followin the line I then requested. It is typed on paper so I will just typed the A line.

Gen A to D is a reconstructoin of the Retief family in France following research by Charl and Valy (2) The South African part of the genealogy is from reference 1, 5 and 7.
GEN A ca 1570-1600: Paul Retif X Marie LEBRETZ
GEN B ca 1600-1620: Pierre RETIF X Rchel GAULLIS
Gen C 1620-1650: Jacues RETIF *1631 wife not mentioned
GEN D:Francois RETIF (SQA PROG) 1650-1680 *2.2.1663

A1 Francois RETIF *2.2.1663 Mer, Loire, FRANCE †24/9/1720 Francois Cape
X Maria MOUY *15.5.1685 Calais, France †21/9/1758 Franschoek, d.o. Pierre MOUY
They had 9 children
Maria X Pieter ROSSOUW
Anna X Pieter HUGO
Jacques Unmarried
FRANCOIS
Pierre died in infancy
Paulus X Dorothea MELIUS
Pierre Unmarried
Hester X Jacques MARAIS
Magdalena X Tielman ROOS.

Birth, death and marriage dates all in piece.

For the query here only the parents of Francois was needed.

Hopes this answers the questions.

Judi

PS - So his father was definately JAcques RETTIF borono 1631 mother not here.
He again was the s.o. Pirre Retif and Rachel GAULLIST

So this is definately the father of Francois and Anne. Birth dates the same.

Jacques Rétif

NOw if you look at the line upwards the parents of JACQUES R *1631 should be PIERRE RETIF and RACHEL GAULLIST.

ON his profile that shows Paul Retif and Francois ROSSAUE which is not correct.
PAUL RETIFS 1600-1620 parents must then be PAUL RETIF 1570-1600 and Marie LEBRETZ.

Seems from here it is incorrect.
Gen C father of Jacques father, thus grandfather of our Francois should be PIERRE Reief 1600-1620 X Rachel GAULLIST but his parents shows as Paul R and Francois Rossouw. (Incorrect). Said Paul has a brother PIERRE. X to GAULLIST. This should be the line and takes us up to Paul Retif and Marie LEBBRETZ.

In conclusion the incorrect line starts with RETIEF X ROSSOUW.

Big fixing to be done.

Judi

See father and son married to Debora LOXTON JAUBERT
Jacques Rétif
Paul Retif

Let me know if it all makes sense.

I will try and fix after I heard from you Sharon Doubell and others.

Judi

Judi

PLease see under Francois RETIEF SV/PROG sources uploaded.

Judi

Still battling to load. Geni slow on my side today.

J

It is all unravelling.

With time everything becomes compressed and mixed up.

Thx Judi

Always a pleasure to help.

J

Private User good morning

Both the Huguenot Museum's table and Judi's information need sources, otherwise it is impossible to say which, if any, is correct.

I know that later research has upended information from the Museum in at least one case - don't have my finger on it now.

I also know of instances where research done in France has later been proved incorrect.

So it all comes down to seeing the evidence and evaluating it.

Just to add, I am also descended from both Anne and Francois Retif, so apart from the interests of the project, I am personally invested in knowing for sure too.

There are French genealogy websites / services - this is one that was recommended to me, but I just don't have the time: https://www.filae.com/v4/genealogie/HomePage.mvc/welcome

Sorry I can't be more helpful right now.

Oh, and this. One of the best ways to be sure is to follow the individual / family's route backwards from their arrival at the Cape. Most Huguenot refugees passed though various points on the route where they would have received assistance - monetary, food, clothing, etc - and this would have been recorded.

Also recorded is likely to be names of family or others in travelling party; sometimes an indication of age; the place they had arrived from; perhaps even their original place of origin; etc. And then you go back to the next place, and the next.

A starting point is their arrival on the Borssenburg which sailed from Texel. So that is where you begin.