Query on first name of Wayana in Hungarian region?

Started by Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 on Saturday, March 2, 2019
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On Geni there are profiles in the Hungarian region with a first name of Wayana. In ancestry trees I can only find 7 profiles in trees with this first name (and none of these contained sources) and I haven’t been able to locate it in any records on family search or on anywhere on the internet.

Does anyone know if it traditionally belongs to a region or is a nickname of another name?

Here is an example profile Wayana Hönigsfeld

Looking at my.heritage trees they each have this person as Jonas rather than Wayana
* https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-469595321-5-21072/jona...
* https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-469595321-3-20047/jona...
* https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-469595321-4-20828/jona...
* https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/26010164/person...

Example 4 - Johann Jonas Princz

These trees only have him listed as Johann PRINCZ
* https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-64956031-14-2218/johan...
* https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-64956031-15-7214/johan...
* https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-188741012-2-2207/johan...
* https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-137385992-7-10093/joha...

I have found the following records
* Jonas JERKOWITZ/ZERKOWITZ (age 23, son of Samuel JERKOWITZ/ZERKOWITZ and Regina STERN/HERN) married Janka/Johanna PRINCZ/PRINZ (age 24, daughter of Janos/Johann PRINCZ/PRINZ and Rozalia/Rosalie REINER) married 3/7/1864 Szeged, Hungary
* Janos PRINCZ died 18/9/1868 Szeged, Hungary age 57

From that his name is Johann Janos PRINCZ not Johann Wayana PRINCZ

Example 5 - Jonas Josef Nemschitz

I have found the following records
* Lipot NEMSCHITZ (age 25, son of Jonas NEMSCHITZ and Janka REICHENFELD) married Janka DEUTSCH (age 23, daughter of Herman DEUTSCH and Josefin UNGER) on 29/1/1884 Lebeny, Hungary

From that his name is Johann Janos NEMSCHITZ not Johann Wayana NEMSCHITZ

Example 6 - Johann Liebschütz

I have found the following records
* Adolf LIPSCHITZ (age 20, son of Jonas LIPSCHITZ and Golde WIESNER) married Sali DEUTSCH (age 20, daughter of Hersko DEUTSCH and Rosalia ALTER) on 6/10/1880 Ujhely, Hungary
* Vilmos LIPSCHITZ (age 25, son of Jonas LIPSCHITZ and Golde WISNER) married Berta FULOP (age 20, daughter of Jozsef FULOP and Eszter KOHN) on 7/3/1882 Szabolcs, Hungary

From that his name is Johann Janos LIPSCHITZ not Johann Wayana LIPSCHITZ

Above are 6 examples where Jonas has been entered into Geni as Wayana, here are another 10 that have been entered by the same person that I will change from Wayana to Jonas.

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion.
* Albert Johann Jonas Weiss
* Armin Hermann Hirsch Fischmann
* Eugen Jonas Ziegler
* Eugen Jonas Guttmann
* Eugen Jonas-Tenna Szirmai-Schwarz
* Ignaz Jonas Schafer
* Jakob Jonas Deutsch
* Johann Jonas Patzauer
* Johann Jonas Feldsberg
* Jonas Jonas Neuman

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead of Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion.
* Jonas Roth
* Jonas Winter
* Lorenz Leopold Jonas Edenburg
* Julius Jonas-Tenna Freifeld
* Julius Jonas Barta-Beck
* Jonas Julius Welles
* Julius Jonas Stern
* Julius Jonas Mendelssohn
* Juda Jonas Kaufmann
* Josef Jonas Deutsch

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead of Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Jonas/ Samuel Weiss
* Jonas Schiffer
* Jonas Armin Garai
* Jonas Benjamin Ungerleider
* Jonas Menakhama Leopold Deutsch
* Jonas-Tenna Diamant
* Jonas-Tenna Hahn
* Jonas-Tenna Löbl
* Jonas Brüll
* Jonas Weiss

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead of Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Jonas Menakhama Deutsch
* Janos Kestenbaum
* Jonas Haas
* Jonas Perl
* Jonas Friedeck
* Jonas Steiner
* Jonas Krahl
* Jónás Neumann
* Jonas Purjesz
* Jonas Schwarz

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead o Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Moritz Jonas Stern
* Jonas Deutsch
* Jónás Tuschak
* Jonas Vámfalvi
* Jonas Links
* Jonas Gross
* Jónás Markbreit
* Jonas Latzer
* Jonas Braun
* Jonas Deutsch

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead o Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Private
* Jonas Blum
* Jonas Deutsch
* Jonas Vogel
* Jonas Yona Klein
* Jonas Rosenfeld
* Jonas Hermann
* Wayana Engelmann
* Jonas Hirsch
* Jonas Spiegel

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead o Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Jonas Winternitz
* Jonas Ries
* Jonas Politzer
* Jonas Grünwald
* Jonas Feinsilber
* Jonas Kohn
* Jonas Weber
* Jonas Jakobovits
* Jonas Stark
* Jonas Wassermann

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead of Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Jonas Jonas
* Jonas Gross
* Jonas Steiner
* Jonas Deutsch
* Jonas Pick
* Jonas Schwarz
* Wayana Ehrlich
* Jonas Stern
* Jonas Politzer
* Jonas Hacker

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead of Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Jonas Deutsch
* Jonas Freifeld
* Jonas Sohr
* Jonas Friedmann
* Jonas Gottfried
* Jonas Rosenfeld
* Jonas Sauersteig
* Jonas Deutsch
* Jonas Kohn
* Wayana Linzer

Here are another 10 that have been entered as Wayana instead of Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Jonas Weiss
* Jónás Freund
* Jonas Schnitzer
* Jonas Weinberger
* Jonas Vogel
* Jonas Pudler
* Jonas Freund
* Jonas Weiss
* Jakab Jonas Bergstein
* Jonas Wolf

Here are another 2 that have been entered as Wayana instead of Jonas

If you have any sources that show Wayana please add them to the profile and start a discussion
* Jonas Schultheiss
* Jonas Weiss

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3/3/2019 at 8:46 AM

Not a single Wayana on Google
Not a single Wayana on MACSE
Not a single Wayana on Hungarian death notices
Not a single Wayana in Hungarian Archives.
As Wayanna is not supported by any sort of link to a reference, it has minimal credibility.
Who ever introduced that name onto Geni must either have a unique source of info, or is a just a time waster.

7/20/2021 at 10:39 AM

I apologise but would like to return this thread.

What is the credibility of MENAKHAMA as a name?

Surely this can transcribed as MENACHEM without too much controversy.
According to lists on Geni my 6th grandfather is allegedly Menakhama Deutsch

Very very similar Hebrew..

Born 1666 Timisoara listed as Romania but was then Austro Hungary

Very very interesting is to read thatSephardic Jews were arriving there in very small numbers at this time. Strange however family DEUTSCH at a time when Germania existed but certainly no Deutschland. This family tree is in the ,Douglas Goldman centre Tree 9326. I hope to receive good advice. Can I rely on this data? I would like to have fact and not fiction.

Eric Michael Elias Can you copy the URL so we can see what sources we can find.

7/21/2021 at 8:19 AM

Leanne

Thanks VERY much for looking into this.
There are listiings on Geni for DEUTSCH going back hundreds of years which I try to understand.

All I have is what we can see on Geni i. Family Tree 9326 at the Museum of the Jewish People would appear to be a replica.. I have yet to use any of their facilities other than the new

VIP collection which we access via Geni c/o Randy.

Google gives Menachem as suggestion for Menakhama,

I see possible similarities but have not checked with professional ie Mem/Nun/Ayin/ChetMem

I raise matters which deserve wider circulation. Many Thanks

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