"Genealogical record of Thomas Wait and his descendants" by Knoll, Walter Joseph
https://archive.org/details/genealogicalreco00knol
Page 1 says that Susanna Wait (1684-1758) married Moses Barber and later married Benjamin Perry, eventually becoming the great-grandmother of the famous Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry.
I found a Susannah Barber with the correct parents and correct married name but no husbands or children listed.
I also found Oliver's great grandmother Susannah Perry but Moses Barber is her father, not her husband. Are the parents for this profile incorrect or is the book wrong?
Its curious. I’m thinking the book might be a bit “off.” On the other hand, there may be disputed interpretations of the (burned) Rhode Island Records.
Another configuration is cited in Findagrave & that’s what Geni is following: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/125774125/benjamin-perry
The Rhode Island Historical Magazine, New Series No.4, Vol. 1, April 1885, Contents: Edward Perry of Sandwich, and some of his Descendants..by Col. T. L. Casey..Pg. 317
The mother however is cited as a Wait but shows at F.A.G. As a West
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/62622092/susannah-barber
She could be cross checked in Mayflower Descendant Records perhaps.
The dates for this profile seem unrealistic
Agreed that the book is a bit off. I've noticed that birth and death dates for a lot of people are a bit different than the ones for those people in Geni.
The writeup for Moses Barber on Findagrave has a link to a more complete history of him including a quotes from his will and his wife's.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/12991635/Moses-Barber-1652-1733-of-South...
1. It lists Susannah West (not Wait) as his wife. Her parent's names are different than Suzannah Wait's so these are two different women and not a case of misread handwriting.
2. It lists a Suzannah Perry as his daughter.
3. In talking about her will, his wife is still Suzannah Barber, not Suzanna Perry so I think that's a pretty good indication that the Wait book is wrong.
FYI, the Moses Barber writeup also gives guidance on how to refer to people's birthplaces since the name of the town changed a few times. I didn't check to see if our Geni profiles are correct.
Also, unfortunately I had found two different Benjamin Perry’s merged together, so have now separated them. It’s a good thing you raised the topic.
Benjamin Perry, of Kingston (The Commodore’s ancestor) is not the same person as Benjamin Perry, of Stoughton
I'm more forgiving of the Knoll book now. Its possible that its only mistake here is that it combined the mother and daughter. Maybe Susannah Wait married Moses Barber after all.
Page 322 of this Rhode Island Historical Magazine shows her marrying Moses Barber.
https://archive.org/details/rhodeislandhistov5turn/page/n8
Is that true? It seems like there are more sources that prefer Susannah West as Moses' wife.
On FamilySearch Susannah West (LTVZ-WRJ) is married to Moses and she has a couple of interesting notes.
- "The number in the Mayflower Descendant is 37,373 for Susanna West Barber."
- "Susannah WEST ! BIRTH-MARRIAGE-DEATH: from FGS prepared by Mormon Pioneer Genealogy Society, 1983 (gives sources as Soule and Terry, "George Soule of the Mayflower", in Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, v. 3 (1980), pp. 1-39; Hubert Kinney Shaw, Families of the Pilgrims (1956), pp. 137-44; Records of J. Grant Stevenson, Sanford Porter Family genealogist) - says Susannah m. 24 Mar 1692, Moses Barber."
-- "The choice of West appears to be based mainly upon Samuel West's Memorandum Book described in "The Mayflower Descendant" 26:10. In an entry bearing the date 23 Aug 1802 Samuel West states that from the family records of his uncle Francis West he got the following information on his ancestors: His (Samuel's) great grandfather Francis West married a daughter of George Soule and had children listed by name including a daughter Susannah who married a Barber. The author knows of no evidence which discredits this memorandum book, and personally feels that West is the correct name."
The record for Moses Barber has several 'Waite vs West' discussions and West won.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/collaborate/LTFK-P6P
However, one of the sources on his profile is a garbled marriage record showing Barber marrying Susannah Wault in Kingstown on 20 Mar 1691. Unfortunately the scan images are so terrible that I'm unable to find the original record. It seems likely that's supposed to be Wait, not West. It could be a different Barber but he doesn't seem to have any brothers.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F8KV-7DQ