Rudolf Oehlbert - a relationship in Schwegenheim

Correction: Ludwig Walther's wife Kathelena is Kaetchen Ross.

She is the daughter of Friederike or Fanny Loeb and Abraham Ross of Gommersheim.

Thanks for the updates...

One database has Elise’s death in 1950

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10789-698604/elise-oehlb...

Elise must have been divorced from Rudolph, as he had a 2nd marriage.

See my public Ancestry.com tree:

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/169904303/person/2...

Best, Jeff

Thanks, Jeff. I believe there's even a headstone at Gurs. 1950 might be the date the headstones were planted. I'm not sure if Rudolph was ever married to Elise. Do you know if he died in Gurs? The only information I've found, had him living in Schwegenheim when Elise was packed off.
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Jeff, I can't view your second link.

Arthur was living with his cousin Selma Walther Simon and with her family Ludwig and Kaetchen Walther at the 19040 census.

Ludwigs death cert: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WLZ-YK4
Kaetchen's death cert: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WRT-ZDL

Ludwigs parents are given as Gottlieb Walther and Carolina Stahl, but All I can find on Elise Walther have her parents as Gottlieb and Babette--so maybe they are half cousins.

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Grandson of Ludwig: https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20160818_Woodworkin...

k

If you google "Edgar Stern" + "peppermint train" under Images, there's a couple of pictures of Edgar four years ago at age 89.
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