Thomas Bailey Christian - DNA Match To Descendant Of Thomas Bailey Christian

Started by Diana Collins on Tuesday, July 28, 2020
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7/28/2020 at 6:21 AM

I am a dna match to a descendant of Thomas Bailey Christian.

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Right now, this is my path to her....

Diana Collins
You → Shirley Ann Collins
your mother → Nellie Marie Hunter
her mother → Phoebe Jeanette Goosman
her mother → Lavina Ruth Hendershot
her mother → Elizabeth Jemima Pittman
her mother → Jacob Rush
her father → Private Peter Rush, Sr.
his father → Elizabeth Letitia Rush
his mother → Elizabeth Lewis
her mother → Mildred Warner
her mother → Col. George Reade, Esq., Acting Gov.
her father → Mildred Reade
his mother → Frances Windebank
her mother → Lady Anne Dymoke
her mother → Elizabeth Tailboys
her mother → Anne Fairfax
her sister → Sir Nicholas Fairfax, of Gilling Castle, MP
her son → Mary Curwen
his daughter → Mabel Fairfax
her daughter → Ewan Christian, Deemster & Gov. of the Isle of Man
her son → William Dhone MacCrysten
his son → Captain Thomas Christian, I
his son → Thomas Christian, Jr.
his son → Thomas Christian, III
his son → Unknown
his son → Thomas Bailey Christian
his son → John Matchsquathi Christian
his son → Daniel Christian
his son → Sarah Luvisa Lemuel
his daughter → Daniel Frederick Lemuel, Sr
her son → Berthal Thomas Lemuel
his son → Rene Brackett
his daughter

Diana Collins
You → Bernard Lloyd Collins
your father → Orville Collins
his father → William Sanford Collins
his father → Elesta Faye Collins
his daughter → Duffie Herbert Stump
her husband → Elizabeth Jane Stump
his mother → Lewis Perrine
her father → Elizabeth Ann McElwain
his sister → Elizabeth Reynolds
her daughter → Frances Christian
her daughter → Mose Christian
her husband → Thomas Bailey "No-wa-tah Wo-ha-li" Christian
his father → Mastin Harman Skootekitehi "Fireheart" Christian, Sr.
his father → John Matchsquathi Christian
his brother → Daniel Christian
his son → Sarah Luvisa Lemuel
his daughter → Daniel Frederick Lemuel, Sr
her son → Berthal Thomas Lemuel
his son → Rene Brackett
his daughter

I am of Shawnee descent.

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6/15/2021 at 4:02 AM

Another interesting DNA match:
"I see you manage Thomas Mastin’s page and are interested in genetic evidence regarding the children Thomas Mastin adopted. My mother-in-law is a descendant of Thomas Bailey Christian and (on Gedmatch) her DNA matches that of those claiming descent from Blue Sky and Rachel “Indian Maiden” Skaggs Whitt. Her Gedmatch ID is T190501 “Mountain Mama.” Feel free to contact me." written by Francesca Williams June 14,2021

Rachel Whitt, Cherokee

The upshot being Thomas and Rachel ar

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12/19/2021 at 5:18 PM

the following is a reprint from another site:

"Gina Scola
Aug 29, 2020
I am the granddaughter to John Wallace and Mae Christian, through my DNA I don't have one ounce of Indian in my blood. My grandparents were 4th cousins as well showing that I don't have any Indian in my blood. Where do all of these Indian names come from?

Regards,

Gina"

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12/19/2021 at 5:22 PM

441 M ii. John Wallace Christian was born 30 Nov 1904 in Peeryville, W.Va.. He died 10 Aug 1974 in Bartley, W.Va. and was buried in Christian, Roberts Cem., McDowell Co. W.Va..
John married Mae Christian, daughter of Jacob Christian and Matilda Rose Gross, on 14 Jun 1930 in McDowell Co. W. Va.. Mae was born 20 Apr 1913. She was buried in Christian, Roberts Cem., McDowell Co. W.Va..

John Wallace Christian

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12/19/2021 at 5:26 PM
12/19/2021 at 6:12 PM

As far as Native American blood showing up in someone's dna, it takes a special dna test to detect it. If someone was a direct female, mt-dna could show it, and a direct male, y-dna could show it. Another problem is that I am to understand a lot of tribes won't allow members to get a dna test.

12/19/2021 at 6:13 PM

Gedmatch does have tools that can detect NA in dna.

12/19/2021 at 7:00 PM

Francesca Williams's mother-in-law.shows this...

Her MDLP K11 Modern, Amerindian .86%

Her Eurogenes K9b, Native American 1.44%

Her Eurogenes K9, North Amerindian + Arctic .1%

Her World9, Amerindian .43%

Her puntDNAL K15, Amerindian .75%

12/19/2021 at 7:23 PM

Another interesting thing... for me... is I have some good SNPS matching with all three people that are descendants of Archibald Bolling, Sr.

They are the people listed in the DNA Connections... https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bolling-210

12/19/2021 at 7:28 PM

I do have a direct path to him, but who is to say that I don't have another...

Archibald Bolling, Sr. is Diana Collins' 12th cousin thrice removed!
Diana Collins
You → Shirley Ann Collins
your mother → Nellie Marie Hunter
her mother → Smith Sanders
her father → Mary Sanders
his mother → William Clutter, Sr.
her father → Ruth Clutter
his mother → Nathaniel Wade
her father → Jonathan Wade
his father → Mercy Wade
his mother → Anne Bradstreet, 1st American poet
her mother → Dorothy Dudley
her mother → Katherine Mary Purefoy
her mother → Lady Anne Purefoy
her mother → Sir Richard Fettiplace
her father → John Fettiplace, of Childrey
his father → William Fettiplace, of Stokenchurch, Oxon
his brother → Sybella Unton
his daughter → Sir Thomas Unton, MP
her son → Edith Russell
his daughter → Lady Agnes Jenner
her daughter → Joanna Jenner
her daughter → John Rolfe, of Heacham
her son → Captain John Rolfe, Ancient Planter
his son → Lieutenant Thomas Rolfe
his son → Jane Bolling
his daughter → Colonel John Fairfax Bolling
her son → Major John Bolling, II
his son → Archibald Bolling, Sr.
his son

12/20/2021 at 1:28 PM

Wow... my connection to John Rolfe got axed. My new path to Archibald Bolling...

Archibald Bolling, Sr. is Diana Collins' 10th cousin 6 times removed!
Diana Collins
You → Shirley Ann Collins
your mother → Nellie Marie Hunter
her mother → Phoebe Jeanette Goosman
her mother → Lavina Ruth Hendershot
her mother → Elizabeth Jemima Pittman
her mother → Jacob Rush
her father → Peter Rush, Sr.
his father → Elizabeth Letitia Rush
his mother → Elizabeth Lewis
her mother → Colonel Augustine Warner, II
her father → Colonel Augustine Warner
his father → Elizabeth Warner
his mother → Ann Southerton
her mother → Ursula Peck
her mother → Ele Guybon
her mother → Muriel Awdeley
her mother → Sir Thomas Brewes
her father → William Brewes, Esq., of Stinton Hall
his son → Anne Townsend
his daughter → Sir Robert Townsend
her son → Anne Archer
his daughter → John Archer, Sr.
her son → John Archer, II
his son → George Archer, Sr.
his son → John Archer
his son → Sarah Blair
his daughter → Elizabeth Bolling
her daughter → Archibald Bolling, Sr.
her son

12/20/2021 at 1:34 PM

A second path thru my mom, and also thru my dad...

Archibald Bolling, Sr. is Bernard Lloyd Collins' 10th cousin 7 times removed!
Bernard Lloyd Collins
→ Virginia Wilma Collins
his mother → Thomas Benton Lazear, Jr
her father → Hannah Jane Lazear, (Twin)
his mother → Thomas Pittman
her father → Elias Pittman, Jr.
his father → Sarah Jane Truax
his mother → John J Truax
her father → Rebecca Abigail Truax
his mother → Elias Richard Stillwell, I
her father → Capt. Nicholas Stillwell, IV
his father → Abigail Stillwell
his mother → Robert Hopton, MP
her father → Arthur Hopton, MP
his father → Sir Owen Hopton, Kt., MP
his father → Sir Arthur Hopton, MP
his father → Sir George Hopton
his father → Sir William Hopton, Kt.
his father → Elizabeth “Isabel” Jermy
his sister → Anne Townsend
her daughter → Sir Robert Townsend
her son → Anne Archer
his daughter → John Archer, Sr.
her son → John Archer, II
his son → George Archer, Sr.
his son → John Archer
his son → Sarah Blair
his daughter → Elizabeth Bolling
her daughter → Archibald Bolling, Sr.
her son

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12/20/2021 at 4:38 PM

Moses Wiskilo'tha "Sharp Shooter" Christian

I have been looking for any evidence of T,B,C.'s children referring to NA naming. Moses Christian does not do so in his will.
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