Maj. West Harris - So, if this is West Harris Sr. who married Mary Turner

Hello Suzan Martin, you are correct as far as the American Revolution. His service during that time is listed below which is copied from the DAR public database. He is a Patriot of the American Revolution for his Patriotic Service for the state of North Carolina. Please note the 3rd line below which lists his service. There are many DAR Patriots that did not fight. They may have supported the effort by supporting the effort financially / donating a gun or horse or helping wounded soldiers. If he had been a Soldier in this Revolution I would add him to the American Revolutionary War.

"Service Source: PRUITT, ABSTRACTS OF LAND ENTRIES, MONTGOMERY CO NC 1778-1795, P 24, #352
Service Description: 1) TOOK OATH OF ALLEGIANCE TO MAKE LAND ENTRY, MONTGOMERY CO, 1780" (from the DAR database)

Thank you so much for your interest in getting this correct.

Men & women born from about 1685 to about 1768 were listed as DAR Patriots. The older men were held in high respect and assisted in many different ways, one example of such is to "take an oath of allegiance". The most famous men that might not have been Soldiers were Signers of the Declaration of Independence.

If his title of Major is an issue with you that could be discussed with the managers of his profile. Thanks, Faustine

I believe the title Major id correct- Thank you for the lesson in history, this explains quite a bit to me, so I can answer people who question other profiles, such as this one in the future. I need to check this on several ancestor's. I've been concentrating on Soldier's service only. I apologize for taking the time away from other projects, have been a bit sidetracked with my family health concerns. Thank you, your time is valued.

But Pruitt's Abstracts referred to West Harris in 1780, when the war was almost over and West Harris Sr was over 65 years old. None of his kiving descendants accept that owning land was in itself any recognition of patriotic service. The title Major was bestowed on him POSTHUMOUSLY. Note that this DAR Application has been deemed unfit for further applications.

Ahem - the Revolutionary War was *not* the only war fought on the North American continent in the 18th century. There was also the French and Indian War, 1754-1763, in which a certain George Washington first came to public notice.

*That* war has zero relevance for the DAR, and there is no comparable organization for descendants of the F&IW (yet). But men did make rank during it (mainly militia, true, but it still counts.)

This might be worth looking into, considering that West Harris would have been eligible for militia service at that time.

http://familytreemaker. genealogy.com/users/h/e/n/Albert-C-Hendrick-jr/GENE11-0018.html

2/24/2011

Sent by Dorothy McComb
Descendent of:
Weston aka West, Sr father of West, Jr, father of Wm'son , Sr, f/o Wm'son , Jr., f/o , Sarah Ann Elizabeth Harris Rouse, mother of Cora Bell Rouse wife of DeWitt Clinton Howard , father of Dorothea " Mozelle" Howard, my mother.

Weston. Sr and son, West, Jr were both married to a woman named Mary Turner .

The parents of Mary Turner were Joseph Turner and Burchette Lundy.

Edward Harris m. Mary Tomlin.
Weston aka West, Sr. Mary Turner.
Col. West. m. Edith Ledbetter, daughter of Charles Ledbetter and Frances Randall daughter of Peter Randall aka Randle , Private listed with the Yadkin, NC, DAR.
Peter Randall , son of John Randall .

The 1779 "Petition to Form Montgomery County out of Anson" was the deciding factor or the DAR and SAR to bestow Revolutionary War PATRIOTIC service on its signers, This list included West Harris SR, and son Ehtelred and West Harris jr. Henry Harris and his sons John Harris, Arthur Harris and West Harris. These are two documented branches ot the Harris DNA Group 4 with different progenitors.It has long been proven that the West Harris Sr, son of Edward Harris Sr, never fought in any militia or military organization by his living descendants in the West Harris Family Association that determined all military references were to his son West Harris Jr. There never has been found a record that names either as WESTON and that includes the Henry Harris pair of West Harris and son West Harris Jr. And for Mavan's info there was a Daughters of Colonial Wars for those that fought before the Revolution.

"for Mavan's info there was a Daughters of Colonial Wars for those that fought before the Revolution."

Thanks. First I've heard of them.

https://www.nsdcw.org/

National Society Daughters of Colonial Wars

The above mentioned Henry Harris and his son John Harris are MY SAR Ancestors since 1978, from my 1972 previous approved SAR Application through a granddaughter of John Harris who married the son of a Revolutionary War Soldier..

I live in Houston, but don’t go out except to specialist offices for appointments, first appointment in the morning and then come straight home, I take COVID-19 serious, myself. Unless I can purchase a book, check it out online, that’s it for me. All groceries are ordered and delivered. I’m a recluse, not my choice, but a Medical fact, I have grandchildren to live for, that’s a fact.

Unbelievable we can’t get a copy of his probated Will. As far as copyright, they do expire, unless they’re renewed by a reprint.

All works published in the United States before 1924 are in the public domain. Works published after 1923, but before 1978 are protected for 95 years from the date of publication. If the work was created, but not published, before 1978, the copyright lasts for the life of the author plus 70 years. However, even if the author died over 70 years ago, the copyright in an unpublished work lasted until December 31, 2002. And if such a work was published before December 31, 2002, the copyright will last until December 31, 2047.

https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/faqs/copyright-basics/ There you go

That’s the law on Published Copyright

Although, if the book used the Probated Will, we could use that part - they gleaned that from court records for the book. As long as we give the correct attribution.

I worked in the medical and business management field, took over many hours of legal courses over years. Usually good to look up the stuff.

The Wiils of Thomas Harris d1688, Edward Harris d1733 and West Harris d1795 are all pblished in the 1904 Gideon Dowse Harris book that Erice has cited.which is out of copyright now.It should be down loadable as a ebook from worldcat.org.

Hathitrust https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89066158239&view=1up&...

Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/harrisgenealogy00harr/page/n5/mode/2up

And this is the Robert Harris book Tom King says has errors so don’t use.

http://www.ncgenweb.us/ncwarren/harris-book/Chapter_Two.html

(NB: I think we all know to double check when working with 1914 source.).