Closure of Badatelna

I had also not been able to access badatelna.eu for several days and do not know if it is shut down permanently.

Vademecum is more tricky to use and it seems that not all record books have been transferred yet, e.g. the familiant books - České gubernium - Knihy židovských familiantů (badatelna.eu fond 2098) is missing.

Indeed, I was searching specifically for the familiant books, and not finding them.

Another source of frustration is that Vademecum seems to have changed the numerical designations of at least some books. E.g., the former Hroby kinha 200 is now kniha 205.

Martin Dostál helpfully assembled a primer with the most basic info: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ruxzonl6alh91b/The%20badatena%20Vademecu...

There have been several subsequent discussions in the (public) Czech Jewish Genealogy Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/353398325120768 If you have access to Facebook, search for "Vademecum" and you'll come up with some tips. It would be great if someone(s) could compile these tips and tricks for searching and append them to Martin's document; unfortunately, I haven't had time to do so.

Perhaps more concerning is the response that Randy Randy Schoenberg recently received from a contact at the Czech Archives indicating that some material accessible through Badatelna is not included in Vademecum. https://www.facebook.com/groups/353398325120768/posts/1210624549398...

This is presumably because the excluded material resided in some archive other than the primary national archive... [?] If this is the case, we may need to track down where the other materials reside and figure out how to get access to them. I'm not sure what the likelihood is of us convincing whomever maintained Badatelna to share the previously-digitized files wholesale, either with the Jewish Museum in Prague, or with JewishGen, or with the Museum of the Jewish People (formerly Beit Hatfusot), or with some other institution.that can host them and make them accessible once again. Alas, I have no idea how to mount such a campaign. The records that were not held by the National Archives (and are therefore not included in Vademecum) should still held by other Czech institutions and could, in theory, be reassembled/re-digitized piecemeal if worst comes to worst.

Does anyone have personal contacts within the organizational structure of the archives, and/or know in which institutions the relevant non-National Archives records reside?

With a request for information about the fond 2098, I have now written to the archive. I doubt I'll get an answer. I just hope.

Dörner Petr, Mgr. 974 847 409 information and communication technology administrator petr.dorner@nacr.cz

Mr. Dorner wrote to me: Currently, there are no scans of books at Vademecum, we are currently working to make them available in this form. (fond 2098)

Thanks, Martin, for inquiring. It is good to hear that the Familiant books will be added.

It appears they have also added the "control" metrical books: https://vademecum.nacr.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=cd507737e9672d2f1...

I am passing along a comment from Brian Blitz for those who are not following the Czech Jewish Genealogy Facebook group:

"I compared the contents of former Fond 241 and its Vademecum equivalent at the end of May 2021. The inventory numbers match up until item 70 (Citoliby). Where indicated, there is some new content. When items were moved across, those items which had a letter in badatelna (e.g., inv.c 458a) were put in sequential order. Some inventory numbers in vademecum are skipped. There are also a few items which were in badatelna and not in vademecum.
71: CIVOV (p. Melnik) O 1846, N 1835-1848, Z 1834-1847
131: Doksany (o. Litomerice)
138: Dolni Jiretin (o. Most)
181: Horni Brusnice (o. Trutnov)
183: Horni Litvinov (o. Most)
333: skipped
337: Kostelec Nad Labem Z 1866-1890
342: skipped
346: Kosetice N 1845-1868
347: Kosetice O 1845-1859
348: Kosetice Z 1845-1869
355: skipped
386: skipped
403: skipped
451-456: skipped
470: skipped
480: Fond 241 inv 458a Nachod N 1840-1860 renumbered to 480
481: Fond 241 inv 458b Nachod Z 1839-1860 renumbered to 481
508: skipped
519: Fond 241 inv 494a Nymburk Z 1845, 1846, 1860-61 renumbered 519
533: skipped. This lines up with Opocno 508 O 1849, 1858, N 1842-1868, Z 1844-1866, which is not on Vademecum
611-613: skipped
Praha 6 – Strahov (241, inv. 598) N, 1850, 154, 1857, O, Z 1851, 1858 is not on Vademecum
643: Omitted
685: Former 241 659a Rudne N 1842-1852, O 1849-1850, Z 1846-1864
731: Fond 241 Inv 704a Stanovice N 1863, 1865, O, Z renumbered
734: Former 241 706a Stare Hobzi N 1847-1873
Stare Hobzi O 1849-1872 (Former 241 706b); Stare Hobzi Z 1847-1873 (Former 241 706c) not on Vademecum
735 – 736: skipped
741: skipped
780: skipped
813: skipped
824: skipped
827: skipped
901: skipped
923: skipped
930: skipped
943: Former 241 903a Zdechovice N 1840-1883, O 1842, Z 1843-1858 renumbered
945: Zemechy O, N 1848-1855, Z 1837 (there are two vademecum inv 945s, but no 946)
946: skipped
1018, 1019: skipped
Novy Jicin N 1847-1870 not on Vademecum"

Thank you for forwarding this information for those who are not using Facebook.

Has anybody found a way to do a download of a page as pdf as we could do on Badatelna?