Saint Arnoul, Bishop of Metz - St Arnoul of Metz' ancestry

Hi,

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnual?wprov=sfti1

And many other links.

http://wikibin.org/articles/bodegisel-ii.html

Hi Carl,

Thanks for reaching out. I still think that the evidence is circumstancial, even the links your provided don't necessary confirm that (Wikibin states that Arnulf was "supposedly" son of Bodegisel). To be honest, I don't think we could treat these sources as decisive. That's only something to consider. I always had a knowledge that St. Arnulf was the earliest known ancestor of Charlemagne, so it's new to me.

Best,

K.

Hi Karol,

Of course there is a valuable tradition to consider St.Arnulf as the oldest ancestor of Charlemagne. We know that further ancestry is not equally sure, ‘proven’ or even ‘known’. But given the huge amount of research that has been done on this topic in the last 20 years (even by great researchers like C. Settipani), we are coming to a feeling that we cannot set aside this forever. Time will tell, and the progress of historical research is secured.

Thanks for your understanding and wishing you much research pleasure!

Carl Gustav Verbraeken.

no it isnt correct. Carl has been ignoring relationship locks all over the medievela tree and doing as he pleases. he needs to be removed as a curator

Sharon Doubell

Ok I have cut Arnould from his parents.
I’ll notify Everard van Dijk who asked me to do this.
I really don’t have any objection the new situation should stay until the discussion is completed. We remain open for further enhancements, corrections and adaptations.

I think we should take this to a Curator only thread, Carl Gustav Verbraeken as I'm a little fuming.

Thanks Phillipp, that's exactly what Public Discussions on a collaborative tree are used for. The discovery of new primary sources in the historical tree is an event of some note, and we'd definitely all want to know it had happened.