Mary Ann Howell Langley (Martin)

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/30/2023 at 3:22 PM

None here on Geni.
Per Wikitree:
Mary Ann and Cynthia are fifth cousins four times removed
Mary Ann Ann (Martin) Langley (abt.1806-abt.1876) and Cynthia (Hicks) Curtis are both descendants of Thomas Webber (bef.1625-1701).

1. Mary Ann is the daughter of Samuel Martin (1768-abt.1846) [unknown confidence]
2. Samuel is the son of John Martin (abt.1750-abt.1803) [uncertain]
3. John is the son of Susannah Page (Chiles) Martin (1700-1754) [unknown confidence]
4. Susannah is the daughter of Elender Elliott (Webber) Hickman (abt.1680-abt.1758) [confident]
5. Elender is the daughter of Henry Webber (abt.1650-abt.1724) [unknown confidence]
6. Henry is the son of Thomas Webber (bef.1625-1701) [unknown confidence]
This makes Thomas the fourth great grandfather of Mary Ann.

1. Cynthia is the daughter of [private father] DNA confirmed
2. [Private] is the son of Viola Isabelle Webber (1905-1977) DNA confirmed
3. Viola is the daughter of John Thomas Edgar Webber (1878-1967) DNA confirmed
4. John is the son of John Richard Carter Webber (1839-1904) DNA confirmed
5. John is the son of Samuel Webber (1790-1849) DNA confirmed
6. Samuel is the son of Seth Ward Webber Sr (1766-1838) DNA confirmed
7. Seth is the son of Phillip Webber (1725-1796) [unknown confidence]
8. Phillip is the son of Phillip Webber (abt.1691-abt.1761) [unknown confidence]
9. Phillip is the son of William Webber (abt.1670-abt.1700) [unknown confidence]
10. William is the son of Thomas Webber (bef.1625-1701) [unknown confidence]
This makes Thomas the eighth great grandfather of Cynthia.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/30/2023 at 3:34 PM

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Parks-2399 is manager of her profile at Wikitree

Kathie and Cynthia are 9th cousins at Wikitree
Kathryn Forbes is your 9th cousin at Geni

Kathryn Forbes can you double check this profile?

An enrolled person added a comment to my great grandfather's profile and I removed it and put it in Discussion on his profile as I was not able to confirm or refute it.
John Thomas Edgar Webber is my dad's mother's father.

I am looking to get more profiles MP'd at Geni

Would it be correct to have this profile the same as Wikitree? The profile at Wikitree only has one of her three children.

Erica Howton
Private User
please see

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/30/2023 at 3:42 PM

I am curious if "my" Chapman are associated with the Chapman of the Chapman Rolls.

Kathryn Forbes

3/30/2023 at 6:14 PM

Sorry, but the Webbers are so far back in my line I don’t know anything about any descendants except Susannah Chiles Martin.

Kathryn Forbes

3/30/2023 at 6:15 PM

The Chapman of the Chapman Roll was named Albert. He was a government employee.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/30/2023 at 6:22 PM

Thank you, Kathryn Forbes

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/30/2023 at 6:24 PM

I try to tag people from documents and build trees from DNA matches.
So much is missing from the records but people lived in communities and it paints a picture when we can see who interacted with whom

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/30/2023 at 6:25 PM

I will be adding the two children to her profile at Wikitree and filling in the relationships here at Geni

Private User

3/31/2023 at 5:28 PM

I frequently make the Geni profile match Wikitree for a number of reasons. And you will see that in the top area of the profile that might be three siblings shown, but in the bio below 6 are mentioned, go with six, the fact that there are only three above only means that the other three profiles have not yet been created.

There is a LOT more in the way of documentation out there than you might think, I'm a document-oriented person so I would start there. and Im not informed enough regarding DNA to have an opinion but I don't think it works yet outside of the cousin's generation. Despite what Geni says as it reflects the DNA logic that the Y DNA would descend through generations, Geni goes backward and only works if the tree is accurate.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/31/2023 at 6:20 PM

Private User thank you.
For the Brick wall ancestors I am looking for, traditional research has not been fruitful enough for me to ferret them out but the public and collaborative aspect of Geni has been helpful for me--- I always say one person's unknown is someone else's always known.
As for DNA, I am literally taking the dirty working trees of my DNA matches and tree building in order to discover the MTCA.
DNA doesn't lie. We just have to learn how to use it.

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 PRO

3/31/2023 at 6:20 PM

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