Rev Samuel Denton Julian - source doesn't match profile

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Profile states his parents are George Julian, Jr. and Hannah Julian, Source doesn't match profile

The about section cites https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/39495024/samuel-denton-julian which gives his father as JOHN Julian 1736-1780 (brother of George Jr), rather than George Jr. Findagrave doesn't give a mother, but states, "According to a Julian researcher, his mother was Rachel Alexander. Rachel and John were married in 1776 in South Carolina. She was born Nov. 27, 1761 in Maryland and died Sept. 26, 1821 in South Carolina."

John Julian of the Findagrave profile died 1780, the same year Samuel was born. That makes him a difficult candidate for the father of Samuel.

John's brother Jacob (also brother of George Jr) lived until 1799, and his wife WAS Rachel Alexander according to https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/176437006/jacob_julian
Problem is, Jacob didn't mention a son Samuel in his will.
South Carolina, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1670-1980 for JACOB JULIAN
21 Oct 1799
His will lists wife Rachel, dau Mary, Margaret, Martha, Hannah, Susanna; sons Jacob, George, and James.

Possible father for Samuel
1. George Julian Sr born 1706. MUCH too old to be father of Samuel
2. George Julian Jr born 1726 , Cecil County, Maryland. Died about 1781 in either NC or SC. Though possible, he seems too old to have been the father of Samuel. Wife Hannah would have been 45. Old for a mother, but not impossible.
https://tngenweb.org/bradley/descendants-of-rene-st-julien-julian-a...
"George Julian I married Martha Denton, daughter or sister of Samuel Denton. Married in Cecil Co., MD or Fred’k Co., VA. By tradition, the father of Samuel D. (Denton?) Julian (b. 7-4-1780 Rutherford Co., NC and m. 3-17-1803 Mary Condrey – same county, by Bible record) died shortly after Samuel’s birth and his mother married later a man named Black. Justifiable conjecture, supported by abundant other evidence, makes the deceased father of Samuel D. Julian the George Julian who died on King’s Cr., S.C. Sept. 1781 and his wife was still named Martha. While Samuel’s brother George (II), who was born in 1770 ca., named a first daughter Martha, and his brother Jacob (b.d. unknown) named a daughter Martha (will)(2nd dau.) his 1st dau. being Mary, which was name of George I’s mother. George I must have been an old man when George II and Samuel were born." [George Jr having a wife Martha and a son George born 1770 don't match GENI]

3. Jacob Julian, brother of George Jr.,is young enough to be the father of Samuel, but he didn't list a son Samuel in his will. (South Carolina, U.S., Wills and Probate Records found on Ancestry.com)

4.a John Julian, brother of George Jr, is young enough to be the father of Samuel, but is the Findagrave profile the correct man? That man was in the navy, had no wife of record, and died the same year Samuel was born. Not an appealing candidate.
4.b Perhaps there was another John Julian?
https://raneygenealogy.blogspot.com/2017/02/ chooses John Julian as father of Samuel, but he seems a different man than the Findagrave John. That site states," ". . . I also discovered this Revolutionary War pay voucher (N.C. Archives at Raleigh online) for John Julin [sic], dated 9 September 1783, Hillsborough, Orange County, North Carolina, stating that he "exhibited his claim (illegible) allowed nine pounds." It appears our ancestor was a patriotic Revolutionary War soldier. I've found no other John Julian in North Carolina for this time period."" So, three years after the death of the Findagrave John, there is another John claimed to be in the area. Interesting reading, but doesn't prove he is the father of Samuel.

Lots of secondary sources, but primary sources that would determine the father of Samuel are hard to find. One of these men could be the father of Samuel, but which one?

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