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Private User this guy, AGAIN, has gone to the Mennonite profiles and began deleting. He was reported and I believe, suspended, before, or left on his own, but he recently started vandalizing again. Can you guys please stop him. I don't know if he has multiple accounts, but this is not fair, nor right. I have Mennonite friends on here, and they are upset. I did report his profile, but just wanted to make sure you are aware.

Private User had his profiles deleted, immediate and close family.

Kurtis Richert відсторонив мене від керування профілями, які я створив.
Мова іде про тисячі профілів.
На мої звернення він не реагує. Кілька профілів повернув, потім перестав повертати.
Куратори нічого не вдіяли. Вимушений робити залишки профілів приватними, доки він і їх не поцупив.
Всі питання до Kurtis Richert.

Oleg, he can't remove you from management, unless they are close relatives of his. Some of them were close family of his, and you duplicated the profiles. When you were absent, he may have decided to take you off from co-managing his family. Why is that such a bother, because you and Kurtis aren't closely related.

Kurtis Richert відсторонює не тільки мене. Він відсторонює також інших керівників.
Жодного разу не відсторонив Kuʻuipo Dillard.
Може ви в змові?

I don't understand your message.

This is a shared website. You can't "steal" profiles from someone.

Скажить це Курту. Навіщо він повсюду додає себе в якості керівника. І видаляє інших керівників.

Private User -
As explained in
https://help.geni.com/hc/en-us/articles/229704067-What-are-my-manag...
"For profiles of people closely related to you, you can add yourself as a manager and you can remove managers who are not closely related to that profile, by clicking on the "x" next to their name."

"Closely related" there means within your Max Family, which is a Geni term, which basically means back to third great grandparent, out to 4th Cousin, and current spouse of each.

This is a choice Geni made to allow people to do that, because one of Geni's two main goals is people sharing with family.

Oleg has vandalized profiles AGAIN, TODAY. Can SOMEONE please stop him? He was already reported by others, yet still is capable of deleting, removing, altering trees.

If you are wanting a Curator to notice and take action, best idea is to post here: https://www.geni.com/discussions/272643
with details, including links to some of the vandalized profiles or an immediate family member of a deleted profile, if deleting profiles is the problem.

That discussion is monitored by one or more Curators.

Thanks, I'd make screenshots and post, but I don't know how to add pics on here. But, there are MANY.

Do you know when it started? - if you could tag that profile and I can add a screenshot. Geni might be able to revert all changes since then.

Private User adding pictures to a message is a curator only feature, but you can upload a screenshot to Geni and post a link to it in a message.

Private User this was brought to my attention. Oleg appears to have a secondary account to control the Mennonite tree. This is tedious work for everyone involved. Nobody's really complaining in the discussions as they do in private. Please look into this!

So, how do we fix this mess that Oleg has created?

Heinrich "Henry" Warkentin (he changed Aganetha to the name David, and all her information)

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https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000206052732851

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How do we fix this?

https://www.geni.com/inconsistencies/for_profile/2821589

Private User

- I can see on the Revision Tab of Heinrich "Henry" Warkentin
"Aganetha (Thiessen) Warkentin's profile was updated by Олег Вoлтep. GM #, birth, burial, death, first name, last name and birth surname « less
May 3"
Here is a Screenshot showing most of those changes: https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000206107498859
They certainly look like something that should not have happened.

On the Revision Tab of Carol Ann Richert I see a whole string of changes done by Олег, including
"Maria (Thiessen) Richert's profile was updated by Олег Вoлтep. GM #, birth, death, first name, last name and birth surname « less
May 3"
Here is a screenshot showing most of those changes:
https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000206107864861

For Gerhard C. Richert
Are you referring to "Aganetha (Thiessen) Warkentin was connected to Gerhard C. Richert as his son by Олег Вoлтep.
May 3"

I reported him on 16/5

Re Anna Fast

Jpher death date was changed by Private User on 16/3 from 1942 to 1866 - which is before her birth date.

Private User thanks for pointing out the error in death date. I believe that was a Smart Copy error on my part.

Private User it's hard to even keep up anymore. I can't tell who goes where anymore, because he either changes information or completely deletes profiles, or disconnects people. I just know that I get a lot of messages about him constantly doing this to peoples' trees. Even though he may be a manager of a profile, or even if he solely added it, if it is a living person's ancestor, why go back and destroy it?

He is under the impression that profiles are "stolen" from him. He thinks that when a profile is merged, and he sees someone else's name as a manager before his name, then somehow that means the profile isn't his anymore, so he destroys it...and/or recreates it.

Can anyone explain what is happening with this profile

Sara Stobbe

She had a husband Johann Stobbe who was disconnected from her by Private User and then a different husband with the same name Johann Stobbe was created by Private User and then Private User was added as manager.

No sources
No discussion

Private User - if these are Geni's notifications of changes, they come on the same day the action was taken, and should be reported then, or as soon as you log on and see them.
You are a Pro. You can open a Ticket. Anyone, including you, can report Vandalism via an email to misconduct@geni.com
I just think you need to be a whole lot clearer and detailed in your description of the damage than you have often been.

If you are referring to PMs from other Geni Users - that is between you and them whether you want them reporting vandalism to you before reporting that vandalism to Geni, or letting you know that they have reported it, or not bugging you at all or etc.

I’ve reverted the Sara Stobbe disconnects and locked relationships.

Private User

Private User

What is the correct genealogy for this couple?

Erica Howton
- in this merge you just did, they had different GM #s:
https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=85769169330

I thought the GM #s were supposed to be important, and if different then they were different people

Just for information

If you come across profiles where you think the information is incorrect it is not appropriate to just disconnect or alter the profile completely.

Instead you should
1) add sources to the profiles
2) start a discussion outlining what you think is incorrect, what you think it should be and why you think that - with references to the sources

This then allows all interested parties to
1) add additional sources
2) discuss whether they agree or disagree with the suggestion and why

In most cases, users can come to an agreement without any confrontation or issues without needing the intervention of curators or Geni.

Private User

Re "He is under the impression that profiles are "stolen" from him. He thinks that when a profile is merged, and he sees someone else's name as a manager before his name, then somehow that means the profile isn't his anymore, so he destroys it...and/or recreates it."

I am actually seeing evidence where profiles created by Private User are being disconnected and profiles created with the same details and then you are being added as a manager.

Private User - thank you, now I’ve better understood the problem.

I believe it should be:

Johann Stobbe Married Sara Stobbe their son Heinrich Stobbe

Not the same as Johann Stobbe married 1) Katharina Ediger 2) Sara Ewert their son Leonhard Stobbe

Please check.

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