John Mead - Mother of John: Martha vs Philip/Philipa/Philippe

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https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mead-99 CITING Remington, Gordon L., "The English Origin of William1 Mead of Stamford, Connecticut." The American Genealogist: Vol. 73 (1998) : pp. 1-7. American Ancestors

Mother's Name: The name of John's mother has been uncertain until recently. Early genealogical work by Spencer P Mead contained some errors and omissions which unfortunately persist today. John's mother is identified only as ______ by S. P. Mead (Pg 186). It may be that S. P. Mead left her name out of his account, because he did not understand that Philip was both a male and female name in the seventeenth century.

However, Philip or Philipa or Philippe Mead is now accepted as her name. Remington shows us that "Philip"[1](See Remington, Vol 73, Pg 3) was actually recorded in Stamford town records upon her death. (Her death is recorded at Stamford, Sept. 19, 1657) Donald Lines Jacobus transcribed the Stamford Town Records, and he found her maiden name to be Kilvey, although he did follow this with a question mark and brackets, "indicating that he had trouble reading the original."

From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mead-96

The names, Martha Davis, (Mary Barker, Martha Barker Davis), are prevalent on the internet. Eva Mead Firestone, in Mead-Clark Genealogy, reports her as "Martha," but without evidence or source.[7] Possibly she follows Mr C. E. Parker. According to James S. Elston in Descent from seventy-nine early immigrant heads ... v. 2, "Mr. C. E. Parker who has done considerable research toward a new Mead genealogy thinks his wife was Martha Davis, daughter of Elijah Davis [now disproven]."[8] According to Paul Prindle, "clearly, this tentative identification is without merit."[2] Possibly these names just fill the void left by the 1901 book by Spencer P. Mead. The WikiTree profile for Martha Davis has been disconnected from this profile.


The geni profile for William Mead (father of John Mead who married Hannah Mead) is rather different from what’s at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mead-96, but I think the children mostly match. Since there are some 70 managers, I think “prune and revise” is the better strategy.

I’ll start with uploading the 1998 study.



The corrected family should result in:

William "Wilyam" Mead

  • aka Meade, Mayd, Mad, Meads
  • Born before 27 Dec 1592 in Watford, Hertfordshire, England
  • Died after 1657 after age 64 in Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut Colony
  • Son of Priscilla Mead and Dorothy Grey
  • Brother of John Mead, Priscilla Mead and Rebecca Mead
  • Husband of Philip (Unknown, perhaps Kilvy) Mead — married 1620 in Watford, Hertfordshire, England

Children:[2][1]

  1. (poss.) Mary Mead, born to William and Philippe Mead, baptized 17 March 1621, possibly died young.
  2. Joseph Mead born 25 April 1624
  3. Martha (Mead) Richardson Williams b 1632
  4. John Mead b ca 1634
  5. Child Mead b ca 1638, d 1658

Comments:

  • Wife Philip is female. “Maybe Mead omitted her name, because he did not understand that "Philip" was used for both males and females in the seventeenth century, or the record may have been difficult to read.[1]”
  • Father Priscilla was male. “Gordon L. Remington states that one of the peculiarities of this family is the use of the name Priscilla as a male name from 1545 until as late as the 1680s.[1]”

1. Remington, Gordon L., (1998) "The English Origin of William 1 Mead of Stamford, Connecticut." The American Genealogist, NEHGS American Ancestors accessed 16 June 2016 (Vol 73, Pages 1-10).

Sorry - here’s Philip Mead

Feel free to request management on any of these new profiles.

Thanks, Erica!

I tried to coax Joan Tower(?) into making corrections to profiles that defaulted to me. I messaged her that it was okay with to correct wrong data if she first provides sourcing to prove changes.

I'm leery Geni's system. Myasthenia Gravis brings fluctuations of eyesight. This is big part of why it's not best that I do profile adds and detachments. I'm leery of making errors with Geni's system doing those actions.

I'm okay with correcting data fields after first adding solid proof to existing profiles to merit change-making. I can provide detailed Overview information when I find little or no associated sourcing to person profiles. I usually type things out on Word with large font to copy/past it into Overviews.

* ...that II don't do profile adds and detachments.

Your overviews are just wonderful, please keep it up.

Since you found the spurious wife and the real Philip, it would be helpful for you to help manage the entry (which I’ve created). That way, if there are mail queries, you can help explain.

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