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Samuel Jefferson "Old Sam" Lee, Sr. - How many wives?

Started by Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 on Wednesday, December 25, 2024
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Husband of Sarah Shay Burns; Sarah Lee (Slay); Lucy Ann Lee (Bunn) and Martha Patricia Lee (Overstreet)

I disconnected Burns Sarah Shay Lee .
She married another Sam Lee.
I think Martha "Patsy" Lee needs moved as well--- does anyone have info for her?

Samuel Jefferson Lee, I hs way too many duplicate children---

Son of Zachariah Lee and Lucy Lee (Farmer)
Husband of Sarah Lee (Slay); Lucy Ann Lee (Bunn) and Martha Patricia Lee (Overstreet)
Father of Angeline Elizabeth Overstreet (Lee); Mary Hatchell (Lee); William Solomon "Bill" Lee; Henry Lee; Zachariah Steedham Lee and 28 others

Needs disambiguated from Samuel Lee, Sr. and any other Sam Lee he may have been smushed with

Here is one resource on the Lees of Robeson and Bladen Counties, NC.

http://lewis-genealogy.org/genealogy/Campbell/Lee-1a.htm

This http://lewis-genealogy.org/genealogy/Campbell/Lee-1.htm has info on Zachariah and Lucy's progeny along with a link here to specifics on Samuel http://lewis-genealogy.org/genealogy/Campbell/Lee-2.htm#2 . I am not sure that the middle name Jefferson is a real thing.

Susanne Floyd maybe someone added to keep him separate? Someone surely knows
I think I'll try to work on him again soon.
Is in the line of another mystery CLOSE DNA cousin match at 23andMe but they have removed the chrome browser there and AncestryDNA still refuses to give us one so I don't have much to go on. I have TOO MANY BRICK WALLS. Ugh

I am connected to one line of Lees through Isabella Floyd Lee whose second husband was Joseph Lee, son of Jesse. She is my 5th great grandmother. I have a few DNA matches to some Lee descendants through her. She had one child by Joseph Lee, Joseph C. Lee. The birth year in the document I shared is incorrect (according to the DAR and would have to be for her Floyd children) for Isabella, but women were frequently cagey about their ages. She was a wealthy widow when her first husband died and still marriage was a "safety net."

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~overstrt/Newsletters/onewv4_2.htm
LEE: Zachariah Lee was born about 1735, and was reported to
have been killed by Tories soon after the Revolutionary War. He
married Lucy Farmer, a daughter of Isaac Farmer, Sr. Their known
children were Jesse, Isaac, Jacob (married Cynthia Floyd), Samuel,
and a daughter who married Henry Pope. Their son Samuel Lee
was born about 1775-80, and moved from Robeson Co, NC, to
Wayne Co, Mississippi. It is believed he married first Sarah Shay
(or Slay) and married second Patsy Overstreet ?. His children
married into the Overstreets of Wayne Co, MS. Could they have
known of and been related to the Overstreets back in Robeson Co,
NC.

connects this Martha to him

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 "His children
married into the Overstreets of Wayne Co, MS. Could they have
known of and been related to the Overstreets back in Robeson Co,
NC."

I would say, probably. But it will need more verification. Lots of families as you know moved whole neighborhoods from east to west after the War of 1812. NC and SC had primogeniture laws where the first sons typically inherited most of the property and the subsequent sons (and daughters) moved west.

I had thought she might need moved but THIS "wife" seems to be the problem:
Lucy Ann Lee
she is hypothetical and some trees say she is the Slay/Shay wife.
They want to make her Lucy Jefferson who was Choctaw.
She is the one with the more than two dozen children attached.
That branch needs deleted, if a curator can look at it, probably

All I can say is that this http://lewis-genealogy.org/genealogy/Campbell/Lee-2.htm#2 is a whale of a good story on Samuel's wives and particularly the last wive "Martha Patsy." I think a movie could be made of it if it is true. Appears to have some documentation.

In 1835 Samuel married Martha "Patsy" Overstreet West. Martha "Patsy" was the widow of Dr. John West of Greene Co MS. Dr. West had been considerably older than Martha "Patsy," and she was probably his third wife. When John West died, Martha "Patsy" and her brood of upwards to 10 West children relocated next to her brothers in Wayne County. There, she met Samuel Lee. Evidently, marriage to Old Sam seemed like a good idea.

Family history states that Sam's children by his former wife/wives left the homestead to be on their own or live with older siblings by the time of Samuel's marriage to Martha "Patsy." Sam and Martha "Patsy" lived on the homestead through 1840 where they are enumerated with the younger West children and 2 new Lee children.

Sometime after the 1840 census, Sam packed up his goods, many of the older boys and their families, and Martha "Patsy" and kids and headed west, reportedly to Texas. Along the way, Martha "Patsy" is reported to have stopped on the east bank of the Mississippi River in Louisiana, refusing to continue. Sam and the boys continued on toward Texas, believing that Martha "Patsy" was waiting for them in Louisiana. However, she packed up and went back to Wayne County once the men had passed out of sight.

Evidently Martha "Patsy" was not only sick of going to Texas, she was sick of Sam. Upon her return to Wayne County, she forsook not only the original Lee homestead but everything which connected her to Samuel Lee. Martha "Patsy" filed claim on the land of a "Fiddle-footer" who had left for Texas. She is enumerated in the 1850 Wayne Co MS Census, using the last name "West." And most notably, she dumped the 3 children she had had with Sam Lee off at the home of one of her other children. These children are enumerated in the 1850 Wayne Co MS Census at the home of 20 year-old Stephen West, going by the last name of West.

Grandma Tommie (Campbell) Lewis relates in her letters that Samuel Lee retraced his path back to Louisiana. And finding Martha "Patsy" gone, he tracked her back to Wayne Co MS. By the time he caught up with her, the traveling season had passed. So, Sam wintered-over at the Lee homestead in the company of his son Robeson. Samuel swore that once he found good land in Texas, he would return to Wayne County and collect up everyone related to him, by force if necessary, and take them with him to Texas.

Adding to the confusion is the number of Lees in southern Mississippi. Some have suggested that Old Sam relocated to Hancock Co MS, marrying a woman named Nancy George and continuing to beget more children. Evidence is found with a Samuel Lee aged 60+, born in North Carolina, and married to a Nancy along with many children. However, the age of the children would have required Sam to have sired children with Nancy back in the 1830s.

We may never know whether Old Sam Lee found land in Texas. Sam is last documented in the part of Catahoula Parish LA which would become Winn Parish in the vicinity of sons Willis, Zachariah, and Nathan. Proof of Sam's death after 2/1845 is found in Clarke Co MS records where Sam Lee of Catahoula Par LA deeded property to son Robeson Lee of Wayne Co MS. Old Sam Lee is probably buried in Winn Par LA.

Born 1772 Edgecombe Co NC

Migrated by 1779 w/ family to Bladen Co NC

1787 Robeson Co spilt from Bladen Co

1790 Robeson Co NC Census

Males Born
After # Lee Females # Lee
18+ 2 Jesse
Samuel

All
2 Lucy
Hester
17- 1778 1 William

Married c. 1790 in North Carolina to Lucy Ann Bunn b. c. 1772

Lucy Ann Bunn died before 1797 in North Carolina

Married c. 1797 in North Carolina to Sarah Shay b. c. 1775 in North Carolina

1800 Census

Well, they like Lucy Bunn as well.

Yes, it looks like he married three times according to that link - Lucy Bunn, Sarah Shay, then Martha Patsy Overstreet West. There may have been a fourth. Not unusual for the times.

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