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Roger de Montgomery, I, Seigneur de Montgomery

Also Known As: "de Montgommerie", "Roger I Montgomery", "Seigneur of /Montgomery/", "Viscount of Heimes", "Earl of Shrewsbury"
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Birthplace: Boulevard Maréchal Montgomery, Bayeux, Calvados, Normandie, France
Death: before 1048
Paris, Paris, Île-de-France, France
Immediate Family:

Husband of Josceline ‘de Torfulus’
Father of Robert de Montgomery; Guillaume de Montgomery; Gilbert 'The Constable' de Montgomery and Roger II, 1st Earl of Shropshire

Occupation: Sieur, de Montgommery, Comte, de Shrewsbury, Vicomte, d'Hiémois, Vicomte of Hiemes
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About Roger de Montgomery, I, Seigneur de Montgomery

Roger de Montgomery, I Seigneur de Montgomery

Project MedLands, NORMANDY NOBILITY

ROGER [I] de Montgommery, son of --- (-[before 1048]). Seigneur de Montgommery and Vicomte de l'Hiémois. He witnessed a charter of Robert I Duke of Normandy for the abbey of Saint Wandrille dated [1031/32]. In [1028/35] he restored to the Abbey of Jumièges the market at Vimoutiers which he had taken from the monks[441]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Rogeri[us] de Montegumeri“ had been exiled to Paris “pro perfidia sua” when [his son] “Willelmo Rogerii de Montegumeri filio” murdered “Osbernus...Herfasti Gunnoris comitissæ fratris filius”[442].
married JOSCELINE, daughter of --- & his wife Sainsfrida [Senfrie][443] . Josceline, her husband and her mother are named in a letter of Ives Bishop of Chartres to Henry I King of England dated 1114 which explains the consanguinity between the king and Hugues de Châteauneuf, who wanted to marry one of the king's illegitimate daughters[444].

Roger & his wife JOSCELINE had [six] children:

  • 1. HUGUES de Montgommery (-killed in battle 7 Feb[445] [1035/before 1048], bur Troarn401). Guillaume of Jumièges names “Hugo et Robertus, Rogerius et Willelmus atque Gislebertus” as the five sons of “Rogeri[us] de Montegumeri“, adding that they had remained in Normandy during their father’s exile[446]. He witnessed his father's charter for the abbey of Jumièges397. He was killed during the troubles in Normandy during the minority of Duke Guillaume II[447]. Vicomte d'Hiémois. married JOSCELINE de Bolbec, daughter of OSBERN de Bolbec & his [first/second wife Aveline ---/Hawise ---]. Josceline and her marriage are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[448]. This is presumably based on Robert de Torigny, continuation of William of Jumièges[449], the unreliability of this part of whose chronicle is discussed in the Complete Peerage[450]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “nepotes...plures...Gunnor...earum...quintam” married “Hugo de Monte-gummerici” by whom she had “Rogerius pater Roberti de Bellismo”[451]. There must be considerable doubt about whether this can be correct as Osbern de Bolbec’s wife and Hugues de Montgommery’s mother would have been first cousins.]
  • 2. ROBERT de Montgommery (-before his father). Guillaume of Jumièges names “Hugo et Robertus, Rogerius et Willelmus atque Gislebertus” as the five sons of “Rogeri[us] de Montegumeri“, adding that they had remained in Normandy during their father’s exile[452].
  • 3. ROGER [II] de Montgommery (-Shrewsbury 27 Jul 1094, bur Shrewsbury Abbey). Guillaume of Jumièges names “Hugo et Robertus, Rogerius et Willelmus atque Gislebertus” as the five sons of “Rogeri[us] de Montegumeri“, adding that they had remained in Normandy during their father’s exile[453]. He succeeded his father as Seigneur de Montgommery, Vicomte d'Hiémois. He was created Earl of Shrewsbury in 1074. Seigneur d'Alençon. 4
  • 4. GUILLAUME de Montgommery (-killed in battle [1035/before 1048]). Guillaume of Jumièges names “Hugo et Robertus, Rogerius et Willelmus atque Gislebertus” as the five sons of “Rogeri[us] de Montegumeri“, adding that they had remained in Normandy during their father’s exile[454]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Osbernus...procurator principalis domus, Herfasti Gunnoris comitissæ fratris filius“ was killed while sleeping “in cubiculo ducis cum ipso in valle Rodoili” by “Willelmo Rogerii de Montegumeri filio”, dated to early in the reign of Duke Guillaume II from the context, adding that the murderer was subsequently killed by “Barno...de Glotis præpositus Osberni” in revenge for the crime[455].
  • 5. GILBERT de Montgommery (-murdered [1064]). Guillaume of Jumièges names “Hugo et Robertus, Rogerius et Willelmus atque Gislebertus” as the five sons of “Rogeri[us] de Montegumeri“, adding that they had remained in Normandy during their father’s exile[456]. Orderic Vitalis records the return from Apulia of “Ernaldus de Escalfoio Willermi Geroiani filius” who was pardoned by Duke Guillaume who promised the return of his property, that “Mabilia Talavacii filia” prepared poison for him which was drunk by “Gislebertus frater Rogerii de Monte-Gomerici” who died three days later “apud Raimalastum”, dated to [1064] from the context[457].
  • 6. [ ? The identity of Amieria’s parents is not known. She is shown as the daughter of Gilbert in Europäische Stammtafeln[458], but this may be no more than speculation. The word "neptis" may indicate a more remote family relationship than niece. m ?] One child:
  • a) [AMIERIA . Orderic Vitalis reports that Roger de Montgommery married "Amieriam neptem suam" to "Warino autem Calvo", who was "a man small in body but great in spirit", to whom he granted “præsidatum Scrobesburiæ”[459]. Her second marriage is confirmed by a manuscript which recites the history of the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey and records donations including that of "Reginaldus frater Warini vicecomes…villam…Lega", adding in a later passage that "Reinaldus…post mortem Warini vicecomitis uxorem illius, cum honore, suscepit"[460]. Eyton interprets "frater" in this document as meaning "brother-in-law or rather husband of Warin’s widow"[461] but, assuming that the extract quoted above reflects the facts, such an interpretation is unnecessary as Rainald was both Warin’s brother and second husband of Warin’s widow. Orderic Vitalis records that “Rogerius...Scrobesburiensis comes” donated properties to Ouche, including confirmation of the donation of “in ecclesia de Bailol altare sancti Leonardi et unam partem decimæ eiusdem villæ cum terra” donated by “Rainaldus de Bailol et Amieria uxor eius neptis mea”, undated but dated to after his second marriage[462]. The date of death of Amieria’s first husband and the date of her second marriage is indicated by Domesday Book which records "Raynaldus" as "vicecomes" of Shropshire[463]. married firstly WARIN [Gu%C3%A9rin] "the Bald/le Chauve, son of --- (-[25 Feb 1083/1086]). A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including by "Warinus vicecomes…in villa…Tugfort" and “uxor…illius post eius obitum…domum…in civitate”, with the consent of "filiis suis"[464]. Orderic Vitalis records that “V Kal Mar” in 1083 “Rogerius comes” declared to “Guarinum vicecomitem et Picotem de Saia cæterosque proceres suos” his intention of founding the abbey of Saint-Pierre[465]. married secondly (before 1086) her first husband’s brother, RAINALD de Bailleul [Bailleul-en-Gouffern], son of ---. "Rainaldus" donated “Dodefort” to Shrewsbury abbey for the soul of "Warini antecessoris sui"[466]. Domesday Book records "Raynaldus" as "vicecomes" of Shropshire[467]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Rogerius...Scrobesburiensis comes” donated properties to Ouche, including confirmation of the donation of “in ecclesia de Bailol altare sancti Leonardi et unam partem decimæ eiusdem villæ cum terra” donated by “Rainaldus de Bailol et Amieria uxor eius neptis mea”, undated but dated to after his second marriage[468]. He must have ceased to be Sheriff in the early 1100s as a manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records that "Alanus filius Fladaldi" held “honorem vicecomitis Warini” after "filium eius"[469].]

Amieria & her first husband WARIN had one child

  • i) HUGH (-[1102/10]). A manuscript reciting the history of the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including that of "Hugo filius eiusdem Warini"[470]. Sheriff of Shropshire. A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records that "Alanus filius Fladaldi" held “honorem vicecomitis Warini” after "filium eius"[471]. As the death of Alan FitzFlaald is dated to before 1114, it is assumed that Hugh died early in the 1100s, probably without issue.

Roger de Montgomery, seigneur of Montgomer, by Wikipedia

No near-contemporary source gives Roger's parentage. The younger Roger de Montgomery, actually son of this Roger, was instead said by chronicler Robert of Torigni to have been born to a Hugh de Montgomery by Josseline, niece of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy. One possible interpretation of this clear misstatement is that a generation has been dropped, and that it was the elder Roger who was son of Hugh and Josseline, though others conclude that Josseline's husband was the elder Roger, the assignment of the name Hugh to her husband being the error. Though Robert de Torigni calls Josceline daughter of Wevia, sister of Gunnor, a letter from the reign of Henry I states she was daughter of another sister, Senfria.[1][2]

Roger held the lands of Saint-Germain-de-Montgommery and Sainte-Foy-de-Montgommery, both of which show traces of early castles.[3] He acquired the office of vicomte of the Hiémois probably about the time Robert I became Duke in 1027.[a][4] In c. 1031–1032 he witnessed a charter to the abbey of St. Wandrille by Robert I, Duke of Normandy as vicomte.[5] Like Duke Robert, Roger began acquiring church properties, among these, c. 1025–27, half the town of Bernay.[6] He took over a wood at 'Crispus Fagidus' which belonged to Jumièges Abbey in the 1030s.[6] He suppressed a market held by the same abbey and transferred it into his own domain.[7] He later returned the market to the abbey and paid restitution for their losses.[7]

In 1035 at Robert I's death, his great uncle, Robert Archbishop of Rouen ruled Normandy as regent.[8] Roger seems to have lost favor with the young duke as well as his vicomte office as he signed an early charter of Duke William simply as Roger of Montgomery.[9] At the archbishop’s death in 1037, anarchy broke out in Normandy and among the rebels was Roger de Montgomery, formerly one of Duke Robert's closest companions, who, after being defeated in his own territory, fled to the court of Henry I of France.[10] Roger had been forced into exile by Osbern the Steward who was afterwards killed by William de Montgomery, Roger's son.[11] Roger died on February 7, 1055 in exile in Paris.[citation needed] In 1068 his wife was still holding lands at Bures and Saint-Pair.

Sources

  • Douglas dates Roger I being vicomte of the Hiémois to an earlier period under duke Richard II when Robert I was given the countship of Hiémois. See David Douglas, The Earliest Norman Counts, EHR, 61-240 (1946) 146 n. 1.
  • K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, 'Aspects of Torigny's Genealogy', Nottingham Medieval Studies, Vol. 37 (1993), p. 24
  • Kathleen Thompson, 'The Norman Aristocracy before 1066; The Example of the Montgomerys', Historical research; the Bulletin of the Institute of Historical Research, Vol. 60, Issue 123 (October 1987), p. 254
  • George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage; or, A History of the House of Lords and all its Members from the Earliest Times, Volume XI, ed. Geoffrey H. White (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1949), p. 682, n. (b)
  • Kathleen Thompson, 'The Norman Aristocracy before 1066; The Example of the Montgomerys', Historical research; the Bulletin of the Institute of Historical Research, Vol. 60, Issue 123 (October 1987), p. 256
  • David C. Douglas, William the Conqueror (Berkeley, Los Angeles: University of California Press, 1964), p. 94
  • a b Kathleen Thompson, 'The Norman Aristocracy before 1066; The Example of the Montgomerys', Historical research; the Bulletin of the Institute of Historical Research, Vol. 60, Issue 123 (October 1987), p. 255
  • Cassandra Potts, Monastic revival and regional identity in early Normandy (Woodbridge, UK: The Boydell Press, 1997), p. 121
  • The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis, and Robert of Torigni, Ed. & Trans. Elizabeth M.C. Van Houts, Vol. I (Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1992), pp. 80-5
  • Kathleen Thompson, 'The Norman Aristocracy before 1066; The Example of the Montgomerys', Historical research; the Bulletin of the Institute of Historical Research, Vol. 60, Issue 123 (October 1987), p. 257
  • François Neveux, The Normans; The Conquests that Changed the Face of Europe, trans. Howard Curtis (London: Constable & Robinson Ltd., 2008), p. 112
  • Kathleen Thompson, 'The Norman Aristocracy before 1066; The Example of the Montgomerys', Historical research; the Bulletin of the Institute of Historical Research, Vol. 60, Issue 123 (October 1987), pp. 257-58
  • a b c d e f g h George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage; or, A History of the House of Lords and all its Members from the Earliest Times, Volume XI, ed. Geoffrey H. White ( London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1949), pp. 683-84 n. (d)
  • Find AGrave Memorial - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/209162796/roger_de-montgomery
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Boulevard Maréchal Montgomery, Bayeux, Calvados, Normandie, France
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