Redmond McMahan

Revolutionary War Veteran enlisting in South Carolina; at the battles of Trinton, Guilford NC, Kings Mountain; travelled with Daniel Boone Caravan Pensylvania territory into Kentucky fronteer.
Plot, or grave marker, is not visible at the McMahan Cemetery, in McMahan Cove, Stevenson, Jackson County, Alabama.

Redmond McMahan

PRIMARY sources for the given name of Redmond / Redman / Redmon, etc. . . .
Redman McMahan - 1800 census, South Carolina, 45+ and family
Redmon McMahon - December 3, 1801, Tennessee
Redman McMahon - May 20, 1808, 200 acres, Tennessee
Readmand McMahan - November 9, 1814, Tennessee
Redmond McMahan - Revolutionary War pension record
+ many more

PRIMARY sources for the given name of Archibald - None

Please see the 94-page paper about this Redmond McMahan by Michael McMahan and Johanna K. Standish,

Maybe still at: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/39888902?c=my-memories

There are ZERO primary source documents that show this McMahan, who was born about 1731 in Ireland and was the father of Sanders McMahan, as Archibald McMahan. All primary source documents show him as Redmond. The primary source documents that show Archibald McMahan are for Redmond's son.

PLEASE see:
https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000030352070608&graph_node_id=profile-23211119&mode=tagged

The Find a Grave information is purely speculative and is not supported by evidence, Jerry J. Stockton, December 9, 2020.

Not a known son of Robert McMahan.

"Archibald Redmond McMahan" probably never existed.

There is NO EVIDENCE that:

• A person named "Archibald Redmond McMahan" ever existed.

There is NO EVIDENCE that:

• Archibald McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769

There is NO EVIDENCE that:

• Redmond McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769

There is NO EVIDENCE that:

• Archibald Redmond McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769

There is NO EVIDENCE that:

• Andrew McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769

There is NO EVIDENCE that:

• Catherine Cole / Coleman was a wife of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769

There is NO EVIDENCE that:

• Redmond McMahan, son of Catherine, had a brother Archibald

Jerry J. Stockton

jerrystockton8@msn.com

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There is a lot of confusion in regards to Archibald McMahan and Redmond McMahan.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=66652208
Birth: 1731
Death: 1834
Bibb County, Alabama, USA

Family links:

 Spouse:

Ann McNulty McMahan (1750 - 1820)

Children:
Eli McMahan (1775 - ____)* [Calculated relationship]
Stephen McMahan (1780 - 1863)* [Calculated relationship]

Burial:
Created by: Frances Rogers
Record added: Mar 08, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 66652208

Order Book I, p. 154, 19 Feb 1746/47 - David Stuart having by his Petition set forth that his servant Catherine Cole was Delivered of a base born Child in his House it's therefore Ordered She serve thesd Stuart a Twelvemonth after her present time of servitude as is Expd According to an Act of Assembly in that Case made &c. (NOTE: This appears to be Redmon McMohon.)

Order Book I, p. 241, 19 Aug 1747 - Chwardens (sic) (Church Wardens) ~ Catherine Coleman (Type) Presentation. This Suit is Dismd.

Order Book I, p. 255, 20 Aug 1747 - On the Motion of James Armstrong agst Robt Young on behalf of his Servant Catherine Coleman for Detaining her Child Its Ordered that Jno Spear Constable y the said Catherine go with said Armstrong y demand the said Child of the said Young.

Order Book I, p. 310, 18? Sep 1747 - On the Petition of Catherine Coleman It is ordered that her bastard Child be by Churchwardens bound out to David Stuart.

1750
Order Book II, p. 362, 22 May 1750 - Grand Jury: We present Catherine Coal for having a bastard Child in the months ___ upon the Information __ __ by Thomas Scott.

Order Book II, p. 363, 22 May 1750 - Ordered that process issues against the servant persons this day presented by the Grand jury to cause them to come at the next Court to answer the presentments against them respectively.

Order Book II, p. 393, 26 May 1750 - On the petition of Thomas Scot it is ordered that James Armstrong be summoned to appear at the next Court to Show Cause why he has discharged his Servant woman Catherine Cole who is likely to become Chargeable to the Parish of Augusta.

Order Book II, p. 424, 27 May 1750 - On the motion of Samuel Armstrong praying that his servant woman Catherine Cole might serve Thomas Scot two years for the trouble of his House where she was Delivered of a Bastard Child and she assenting thereto It's ordered that she serve him two Years accordingly and itis further Ordered that provided thesd Scot keep thesd Child from Being a Charge to this Parish during thesd two years that the Church Wardens for the time being bind it to thesd Scot unless thesd Catherine give Sufficient Security for Indempnifying (sic) the Parish of Augusta.

Order Book II, p. 480, 6 Sep 1750 - The King ~ Catherine Cole (Type) On Present. of the Grand jury for having a bastard Child. This day came the Attorney for our Lord the King and the sd Catherine being duly summoned y failing to appear Itis Considered that our Lord the King recover agst thesd Catherine fifty shillings or five hundred pounds of Tobacco &? Cash to the use of the Parish of Augusta in this County & it's Ordered that she pay the Costs of this prosecution.

Order Book II, p. 483, 8 Sep 1750 - The Order of Court for summoning James Armstrong to Show Cause why he had setfree his servant Catherine Cole who is likely to be come a charge to this parish not being _? It is Ordered to be dismd.

1751
Order Book III, p. 238, 3 Dec 1751 – The King ~ Catherine Cole (Type) For having a bastard Child. This day came the attorney f our Lord the King y the said Catherine being duly summoned and called and failing to appear It's Considered that our Lord the King recover against thesd Catherine fifty shillings or five hundred pounds of Tobacco _ Cash to the use of the Parish of Augusta in this County and it's Ordered that she pay the Cost of this Prosecution.

1752
Order Book III, p. 247, 20 May 1752 – Catherine Cole being presented by the Grand jury for having a bastard Child and refusing to pay her fine or give Security for the same according to Law It's Ordered that she receive on her bareback at the Public Whiping post of this County twenty lashes well Laid on in Lieu of thesd fine, and it's said to the sheriff that Execution thereof be done Immediately.

Order Book III, p. 300, 20 Jan 1752 – Catherine Cole Plt ~ Francis Dunn Def (Type) TAB (Trespass, Assault & Battery) neither party appearing this suit is Dismissed.

It is clear that Catherine Cole had an eventful and none-too-pleasant life and, as stated above, and that she was not married to Deborah Stockton's father-in-law, Robert McMahon.

GEDCOM Note

taken prisoner at battle of kings mountain [source needed] Revolutionary War veteran of New River Valley [source needed]

GEDCOM Note

His NAME is not certain, some claim "Archibald" [no evidence], some "Redmond" [lots of evidence]. He came from Ireland at about age 16, landed in either North Carolina or Virginia. His wife's name is also very uncertain. "Mary McNulty" [EVIDENCE?] is accepted by some researchers. Sarah Curtis is accepted by (most) [EVIDENCE?] researchers as his (second?) wife. Sons Eli and Archibald were almost certainly the ONLY two of his children to settle in East Tennessee. At age 16 Archibald [Redmond] McMahan immigrated from Ireland to North Carolina. He is buried in the McMahan Cemetery, Jackson County, Alabama. It is believed Archibald [Redmond] McMahan left his home in Ireland and came to America about 1746 to seek his fortune in the wilderness of the new world. Archibald [Redmond] McMahan, then 16 years of age, landed in either the state of Virginia or North Carolina. There is debate over Archibald's given name. Descendants of Sanders McMahan have always been told that the father of Saunders was "Redmond" McMahan and they have a bible record to prove it. We now believe Archibald and Redmond are one in the same [no, his name is clearly Redmond]. No one knows for sure how the two names came about since they have not been found to be used together. [source needed]

There is no EVIDENCE that "Archibald Redmond McMahan" existed.

Jerry J. Stockton, December 15, 2020.

Redmond McMahan

Order Book I, p. 154, 19 Feb 1746/47 - David Stuart having by his Petition set forth that his servant Catherine Cole was Delivered of a base born Child in his House it's therefore Ordered She serve thesd Stuart a Twelvemonth after her present time of servitude as is Expd According to an Act of Assembly in that Case made &c. (NOTE: This appears to be Redmon McMohon.)

Order Book I, p. 241, 19 Aug 1747 - Chwardens (sic) (Church Wardens) ~ Catherine Coleman (Type) Presentation. This Suit is Dismd.

Order Book I, p. 255, 20 Aug 1747 - On the Motion of James Armstrong agst Robt Young on behalf of his Servant Catherine Coleman for Detaining her Child Its Ordered that Jno Spear Constable y the said Catherine go with said Armstrong y demand the said Child of the said Young.

Order Book I, p. 310, 18? Sep 1747 - On the Petition of Catherine Coleman It is ordered that her bastard Child be by Churchwardens bound out to David Stuart.

1750
Order Book II, p. 362, 22 May 1750 - Grand Jury: We present Catherine Coal for having a bastard Child in the months ___ upon the Information __ __ by Thomas Scott.

Order Book II, p. 363, 22 May 1750 - Ordered that process issues against the servant persons this day presented by the Grand jury to cause them to come at the next Court to answer the presentments against them respectively.

Order Book II, p. 393, 26 May 1750 - On the petition of Thomas Scot it is ordered that James Armstrong be summoned to appear at the next Court to Show Cause why he has discharged his Servant woman Catherine Cole who is likely to become Chargeable to the Parish of Augusta.

Order Book II, p. 424, 27 May 1750 - On the motion of Samuel Armstrong praying that his servant woman Catherine Cole might serve Thomas Scot two years for the trouble of his House where she was Delivered of a Bastard Child and she assenting thereto It's ordered that she serve him two Years accordingly and itis further Ordered that provided thesd Scot keep thesd Child from Being a Charge to this Parish during thesd two years that the Church Wardens for the time being bind it to thesd Scot unless thesd Catherine give Sufficient Security for Indempnifying (sic) the Parish of Augusta.

Order Book II, p. 480, 6 Sep 1750 - The King ~ Catherine Cole (Type) On Present. of the Grand jury for having a bastard Child. This day came the Attorney for our Lord the King and the sd Catherine being duly summoned y failing to appear Itis Considered that our Lord the King recover agst thesd Catherine fifty shillings or five hundred pounds of Tobacco &? Cash to the use of the Parish of Augusta in this County & it's Ordered that she pay the Costs of this prosecution.

Order Book II, p. 483, 8 Sep 1750 - The Order of Court for summoning James Armstrong to Show Cause why he had setfree his servant Catherine Cole who is likely to be come a charge to this parish not being _? It is Ordered to be dismd.

1751
Order Book III, p. 238, 3 Dec 1751 – The King ~ Catherine Cole (Type) For having a bastard Child. This day came the attorney f our Lord the King y the said Catherine being duly summoned and called and failing to appear It's Considered that our Lord the King recover against thesd Catherine fifty shillings or five hundred pounds of Tobacco _ Cash to the use of the Parish of Augusta in this County and it's Ordered that she pay the Cost of this Prosecution.

1752
Order Book III, p. 247, 20 May 1752 – Catherine Cole being presented by the Grand jury for having a bastard Child and refusing to pay her fine or give Security for the same according to Law It's Ordered that she receive on her bareback at the Public Whiping post of this County twenty lashes well Laid on in Lieu of thesd fine, and it's said to the sheriff that Execution thereof be done Immediately.

Order Book III, p. 300, 20 Jan 1752 – Catherine Cole Plt ~ Francis Dunn Def (Type) TAB (Trespass, Assault & Battery) neither party appearing this suit is Dismissed.

It is clear that Catherine Cole had an eventful and none-too-pleasant life and, as stated above, and that she was not married to Deborah Stockton's father-in-law, Robert McMahon.

Not a son of Robert McMahan

There is NO evidence that:

• Archibald McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769
• Redmond McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769
• Archibald Redmond McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769
• A person named "Archibald Redmond McMahan" ever existed.
• Andrew McMahan was a son of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769
• Catherine Cole / Coleman was a wife of Robert McMahan c.1706-1769
• Redmond McMahan, son of Catherine, had a brother Archibald

Jerry Stockton, 23 May 2018, jerrystockton8@msn.com

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REDMOND McMAHAN was probably born in Ireland and emigrated first to Rowan County, North Carolina, about 1756, where his brother ARCHIBALD McMAHAN still lived in 1776. He then moved to the Craven District of South Carolina early in the 1760-1766 time frame. The first official record about him is from the South Carolina Regulators where in 1766 he is listed as a member of a band of outlaws wanted for crimes in the northwest part of South Carolina.

REDMOND is confused with several other early McMahan settlers, in particular with the McMahans of Montgomery County, Virginia. REDMON of Montgomery Co, VA, who also served in the Revolution was arrested for desertion in Montgomery Co, VA, but at the date specified he was in Fredericksburg recovering from wounds and could not have deserted after Cowpens. Somehow this got cleared up as REDMON was not hanged, but Montgomery County court records make no further mention, so, we are not sure how it was resolved.

REDMOND is also confused with REDMOND's brother, ARCHIBALD McMAHAN, who settled in Sevier County, Tennessee, in 1784. The latter confusion arises because East Tennessee tradition is that ARCHIBALD died at a son's residence in Alabama. Some researchers when they found REDMOND's son SANDERS in Alabama immediately assumed that ARCHIBALD was also knows as "Redmond" and died in Jackson County, Alabama. (A highly improbably scenario since SANDERS did not move to Alabama until 1831-1832 and ARCHIBALD died in 1826). They were also apparently unaware that ARCHIBALD's son EDWARD "Ned" McMAHAN had married RACHEL REAGAN in Sevier County, TN, and moved to Bibb County, AL, where she died about 3 months after ARCHIBALD and her tombstone can still be found in Bibb County, AL. The substitution of SANDERS for NED does lead to the erroneous conclusion that ARCHIBALD was also REDMOND. However, this researcher thinks that that scenario is not even possible given the time line and distance between the two men and the fact that SANDERS was not yet in Alabama when ARCHIBALD went there in 1820.