Beli ap Rhun, King of Gwynedd

See Peter Bartrum, https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000173392791951 (February 4. 2023; Anne Brannen, curator)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Royal Family of Gwynedd - Ancestry of Cynan Dindaethwy; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id16.html. (Steven Ferry, November 29, 2019.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: Harleian Ms 3859; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id129.html. (Steven Ferry, March 8, 2021.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Interim Kings of Gwynedd's 1st Dynasty; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id306.html (Steven Ferry, October 19, 2022.)

Please see Darrell Wolcott: Cynan Dindaethwy - Furter Notes; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id307.html (Steven Ferry, October 21, 2022.)

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Beli ap Rhun (c. 517 – c. 599) was King of Gwynedd (reigned c. 586 – c. 599). Nothing is known of the person, and his name is known only from Welsh genealogies, which confirm that he had at least two sons. He succeeded his father Rhun ap Maelgwn as king, and was in turn succeeded by his son Iago. Beli was the either the father or grandfather of Saint Edeyrn.

Beli ap Rhun

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Beli ap Rhun (c. 517[citation needed] – c. 599) was King of Gwynedd (reigned c. 586[citation needed] – c. 599). Nothing is known of the person, and his name is known only from Welsh genealogies, which confirm that he had at least two sons. He succeeded his father Rhun ap Maelgwn as king, and was in turn succeeded by his son Iago. Beli was the either the father or grandfather of Saint Edeyrn.

The royal genealogies of the Harleian genealogies,[1] Jesus College MS. 20,[2] and Hengwrt MS. 202[3] show him as the ancestor and descendant of kings, and thus presumably a king himself. The Bonedd y Saint (English: Descent of the Saints) says that he is the ancestor of Saint Edeyrn (the Bonedd y Saint says that he was the son of Nudd or Lludd who was the son of Beli,[4] while Hengwrt MS. 202 says that he was the son of Beli[5]).

One of the medieval Welsh Triads mentions a certain 'Rhun ap Beli',[6][7] implying that there was yet another son of Beli, who was famed for his military exploits. The name is repeated elsewhere in medieval poetry, such as in Hywel Foel's (fl. c. 1240 – 1300) awdl lamenting the capture and imprisonment of Owain ap Gruffudd, where he likens Owain to Rhun: "Who if free, like Rhun the son of Beli, Would not let Lloegria burn his borders".[8] There is no confirming evidence that such a person existed, and it is contradicted by records such as the royal genealogies. Scholars such as Thomas Stephens have concluded that this is a mistake,[8] and that the intended person was someone else.

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^ Phillimore 1888:169 – 170 — the pedigree is given as: ... map Rotri map mermin map etthil merch cinnan map rotri map Intguaul map Catgualart map Catgollaun map Catman map Iacob map Beli map Run ..., and from there back to Cunedda and his ancestors.

^ Phillimore 1887:87 — the pedigree is given as ... Cynan tintaeth6y. M. Rodri mol6yna6c. M. Idwal I6rch. M. Kadwaladyr vendigeit. M. Katwalla6n. M. Kad6ga6n. M. Iago. M. Beli. M. Run hir. M. Maelg6n g6yned ..., and from there back to Cunedda.

^ Phillimore 1886:133 — katwaladyr vendigeit ap katwalla6n ap katwan ap iago ap beli ap run ap maelg6n g6yned ap einion wwr ap pabo post prydein.

^ Parry 1821:201 — Edeyrn, the son of Nudd, or Lludd, ab Beli ab Rhun ab Maelgwn Gwynedd ab Caswallon Law Hir ab Einion Yrth ab Cunedda.

^ Phillimore 1886:133 — Edern ap beli ap run ap maelg6n g6yned ap katwalla6n lla6ir ap einion yrth ap kuneda wledic.

^ Jenkins 1852:279, Letters on Welsh History

^ Williams 1844:125 – 126, The Ecclesiastical Antiquities of the Kymry

^ a b Stephens 1849:362 – 363, Welsh Poetry from AD 1240 – 1284

[edit]References

Davies, John (1990), A History of Wales (First ed.), London: Penguin Group (published 1993), ISBN 0-713-99098-8

Jenkins, Samuel (1852), Letters on Welsh History, Philadelphia: E. S. Jones & Co.

Lloyd, John Edward (1911), A History of Wales from the Earliest Times to the Edwardian Conquest, I (2nd ed.), London: Longmans, Green, and Co (published 1912)

Parry, John Humffreys (1821), "Genealogy of the Saints", The Cambro-Briton, III, London: W. Simpkin and R. Marshall, pp. 7 – 11; 81 – 87; 137 – 140; 201 – 204; 266 – 269; 335 – 338; 394 – 396; 455 – 458

Phillimore, Egerton G. B. (1886), "Boned y Seint (A Fragment from Hengwrt MS. No. 202)", in Powel, Thomas, Y Cymmrodor, VII, Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, pp. 133 – 134

Phillimore, Egerton, ed. (1887), "Pedigrees from Jesus College MS. 20", Y Cymmrodor, VIII, Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, pp. 77 – 92

Phillimore, Egerton (1888), "The Annales Cambriae and Old Welsh Genealogies, from Harleian MS. 3859", in Phillimore, Egerton, Y Cymmrodor, IX, Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, pp. 141 – 183

Rhys, John (1904), Celtic Britain (3rd ed.), London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge

Stephens, Thomas (1849), Evans, D. Silvan, ed., The Literature of the Kymry (Second ed.), London: Longmans, Green, and Co., 1876

Williams, John (1844), The Ecclesiastical Antiquities of the Cymry, London: W. J. Cleaver

• Beli ap Rhun

born about 0545

died about 0599

father:

• Rhun Hir ap Maelgwn Gwynedd

born about 0515

died about 0586

mother:

• Perwyr verch Rhun Ryfeddfawr

born about 0515

siblings:

unknown

spouse:

unknown

children:

• Iago ap Beli King of Gwynedd

born about 0575

died 0613

biographical and/or anecdotal:

notes or source:

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