Col. Thomas Carr of Topping Castle

Thomas Carr

• Birth: before 1650 - England
• Death: Nov 1711 - King William County, Colony of Virginia

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Biography

Updated 20 April 2022

Extracted from https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carr-3105

Thomas Carr was probably born in England before 1650. His origins are disputed. He emigrated from England to Virginia before 1701, possibly many years earlier.

The first clear record of his presence in America was the grant to him of a Virginia land patent dated 25 April 1701 for 546 acres in St. John's Parish in Pamunkey Neck, King William County, Virginia, for the transportation of 11 persons into the colony.[1]

Thomas Carr was appointed a Justice of the Court for King William County as early as 1702, and High Sheriff in 1708-9.[2]

The name of his wife is unknown, but they had at least two children:[2] born at King William County:

1. Thomas, b. 1678. Married Mary Dabney.
2. William. b. abt 1680. Married 1) Mary Chiles 2) Susannah Brooks

Thomas Carr reportedly died in King William County, Colony of Virginia, on 1 November 1711.

Disputed Spouse

A prior version of this profile identified his spouse as Mary Garland, based on a database entry in the Ancestry database version of Yates, "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900," which identifies a marriage between a Thomas Carr and Mary Garland in 1655, citing only "Source number: 1106.004; Source type: Pedigree chart." There is no evidence other than the common name to indicate that this is the same Thomas Carr, and the Yates index is not considered a < reliable source for pre-1700 profiles managed by the < Southern Colonies Project > . See this < G2G discussion > for an explanation why.

According to Wilson Miles Cary, “Carr Family,” The William and Mary Quarterly 8 (1899): 106–108, at 106-7; digital images, JSTOR http://www.jstor.org/stable/1915910 : accessed 4 Aug 2021)., the identity of his spouse is unknown.[2] She was not “Mary Garland”.

Disputed origins

Robert Carr, 4th Lord of Jedburgh and his wife did not have any living sons. He died without issue in 1692 and the line also died out, so Col. Thomas Carr of Topping Castle cannot be his son.

Notes

"The Carr family had been Virginians since Colonel Thomas Carr of "Topping Castle," England, emigrated to King William County, marrying Mary Garland." (1)

Thomas Carr of Louisa County, VA. This Thomas Carr is styled "Thomas Carr, gentleman" in a patent granted to him on April 25, 1701 for 546 acres of land in St. John's Parish, Pamunkey Neck, King William County (VA) "...for the transportation of 11 persons in the colony...." Positions held by Thomas Carr: Justice (1702), High Sheriff (1708-09). Genealogies of Virginia Families Vol. I, p. 588ff, reprints a letter from Col. Wilson Miles Cary of Baltimore, written to The William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, who asserts that Thomas Carr had two sons: Major Thomas Carr of Caroline County (VA), born 1678, and William Carr (who is the ancestor of the Carrs in Spotsylvania County, VA, and also of Kentucky and Missouri). (2)

Notes

• Topping Castle was first in King and Queen County and afterwards in King William and Caroline Counties, Virginia. (from "Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol II")
• Emigration: Thomas emigrated from England to Virginia in the Colonies. 3013 He was granted a patent 25 Apr 1701 for 546 acres in St. John's Parish, King William County, Virginia. He was the original owner of Topping Castle, which burned 31 Mar 1896. (5)
• This brings the line of descent down to the Virginia Carr's. Robert Carr & John Carr, Gentleman, settled south of the James River near Carrsville and for the purpose of this genealogy we pursue their line no further and confine ourselves to the lines of Major Thomas Carr and William Carr Gentleman. Major Thomas Carr and William Carr, Gentleman, were sons of Sir Thomas Carr & Mary Garland. Exactly when they came to Virginia is not definitely known, but they were suppose to have come on account of their loyalty to Stuarts and persecution of Cromwell. A grant of 25,000 aces of land was made to their family from King Charles, in the Counties of Louisa, Albemarle, King & Queen, etc. Written on parchment and granting this land "to our trusty and beloved Thomas Carr, Gentleman". In Edson Carr's book on the Carr family he designates them as coming from the Border land between England and Scotland. Sir Thomas Carr lived at "Topping Castle" in Carolin Co., Virginia.In the Albemarle group of places that came under the Carr's grants, were "Burnt Mills", "Carr's Book", "Dunlora", "Glenecho", "Ridge", known later as "South West Mountains". John Carr lived on Chestnut Mountain Ridge. (6)

Links

1. http://www.frontierfolk.net/ramsha_research/families/carrt.rtf
2. http://members.tripod.com/~genealogy_thomas/carr.html
3. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&i...
4. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jonesb25&...
5. McCauley, Lanier, Hankins, Hopkins & Taylor Families
6. Tales of the ankrom clan - "Karr-Carr Collector Vol 2 Jan 1984 No 1."
7. http://www.genealogical-gleanings.com/Early%20Virginia.htm

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• Sir Thomas Carr
• Birth: 1641, England
• Death: 1724 King William County, Virginia, USA
• Sir Thomas Carr
• Birth 13 Mar 1646 in Wath Upon Dearne, York, England
• Death Nov 1711 in Caroline, Virginia
• Note:
• Marker not found -- thou several grave markers are there that have deteriorated beyond identification
• York, England later became Yorkshire, England
• Family links:
• Spouse:
• Mary Garland Carr (1654 - 1745)*
• Children:
  • Thomas Carr (1678 - 1737)*
• Burial: Topping Castle Cemetery, Houstons Corner, Caroline County, Virginia, USA
• Find A Grave Memorial# 81594167
• From: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=81594167 _______________________

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Thomas Carr, Sr. born abt 1651, is the first of the Carr family we have any knowledge of in America. He settled in Virginia and received many grants of land, among them one for 546 acres in St. John's parish and another in King & Queen Co. in 1708 & 1709. He was alive in 1724; we have no records of the date of his death. His son was Thomas CARR, Junior.

The gentleman who married Mary DABNEY in 1704 was Thomas CARR, Junior or Thomas CARR II.

We know this because in 1711, he first appeared in King William County records as Thomas CARR, Junior.

In 1718, he patented 800 acres in King William County. In 1724, he was named as "Captain Thomas CARR, Jr. Gent." and in 1730, he had risen to the title of "Major Thomas CARR." Between 1718 and 1736, he patented land in King William, Hanover, Caroline, Louisa and Albemarle. In 1728 Caroline county was erected and Thomas CARR, Junior was one of the original Justices from the formation of Caroline until his death.

Previous to the erection of Caroline County in 1732, Thomas CARR, Junior was a Justice in King William beginning in 1714; then High Sheriff of King William from 1722-1723. Beginning in 1728, his home was in Caroline County where he made his will 29 May 1735; it was proved 14 July 1738.

Carr History, Family Crest & Coats of Arms Origins Available: Irish , Scottish The earliest forms of hereditary surnames in Scotland were the patronymic surnames, which are derived from the father's given name, and metronymic surnames, which are derived from the mother's given name. Scottish patronymic names emerged as early as the mid-9th century. The patronyms were derived from a variety of given names that were of many different origins. The surname Carr is derived from the Gaelic name O'Ciarain or O'Ceirin, which itself comes from the Gaelic word ciar, which means black or dark brown.Early Origins of the Carr family

The surname Carr was first found in Lancashire (located in northwest England and dates back to 1180), where one of the earliest records of a progenitor of the Clan was a John Ker, hunter, resident of Soonhope in 1190 AD. He is believed to have received a grant of land from the Crown and settled in the Border country of Scotland soon after the Norman invasion of 1066 moved northwards. Within a century, two main branches evolved from two brothers, Ralph and John who lived near Jedburgh in c. 1330. They were both listed in the Roll of Battle Abbey as having descended from the Norman Karre. [1] The Kerrs of Cessford were descended from Ralph, and the Kerrs of Ferniehurst were descended from John. Southern England use Carr Scotts use Kerr

New Information: website: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/19708/dvm_GenMono004514-00094-... The Carr/Kerr family date back to the Norman Conquest. "Karre" was a follower of William the Conqueror. The family always insisted that they were more favored by the English sovereigns, because they "did not have to come to America" as some of the other [poorer] families. 1. Thomas Carr, Gent. (meaning well off). Came to Virginia in 1701, died 1714 [different date than in "details" here of him] Married Mary Garland, 1678/ Had two sons, one of whom was William Carr, who married 1st ...........Chiles, and by second marriage to Susannah Brooks, had one son, Gideon Carr, born Jan. 1, 1712. The first son of Thomas Carr and Mary Garland. 2. Major Thomas Carr, born 1678 in England, d. April 29, 1738. Married Mary Dabney (b. 1-22-1680, d. 9-17-17480 dau. of Corneille Dabney (D'Aubigne) and Susanne ............. They had four children: 1. Thomas Carr, III, 1705-1743. No issue. 2. John Carr, of "Bear Castle", Louisa Co., Va. b. 12-26-1706, d. 6-17-1778, Married Mary Dabney (a cousin), dau. of John Dabney and Elizabeth Winston. John Carr married 2nd, Barbara Overton, Dec. 29, 1737. She was the dau. of Capt James Overton and Elizabeth Garland (widow Truhart). 3. Agnes Carr, m. 1730 to Col. John Waller. 4. Sarah Carr, b. 11-14-1714, d. 1772. Married John Minor, of "Topping Castle" in 1732. John Minor was b. 6-29-1707, d. 1755, and was a son of Marritt Minor and Diana Vivian.

[source: familysearch.org]

References

1. https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I3850... has errors cites
   1. The Compendium of American Genealogy Vol VII, Page 248 Sir Thomas Carr Birth 13 Mar 1646 in Wath Upon Dearne, York, England Death Nov 1711 in Caroline, Virginia (no sources given)
2. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/81594167/thomas-carr has errors cites
   1. The Compendium of American Genealogy Vol VII, Page 248
3. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carr-3105 cites
   1. Virginia Land Patent Book No. 9, p. 364; Digital Images, Library of Virginia, “Virginia Land Office Patents and Grants Index,” (http://image.lva.virginia.gov/LONN/LO.html : accessed 9 Aug 2021).
   2. Wilson Miles Cary, “Carr Family,” The William and Mary Quarterly 8 (1899): 106–108, at 106-7; digital images, JSTOR (http://www.jstor.org/stable/1915910 : accessed 4 Aug 2021).
   3. J.W. Clay, ed., The Registers of Wath-upon-Dearne Yorkshire: Baptisms and Burials 1598-1778, Marriages 1598-1779, (Yorkshire Parish Register Society, 1902), 62; digital images, Ancestry.com, (https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61630/images/wath-... : accessed 9 Aug 2021).
   4. Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers: Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants 1623-1800, 5 vols. (Richmond: Dietz Printing Co., 1934), 1:403; citing Virginia Land Patent Book 4, p. 325.
   5. Cavaliers and Pioneers, 1:435-6; citing Virginia Land Patent Book 4, p. 123.
   6. Cavaliers and Pioneers, 1:565; citing Virginia Land Patent Book 5, p. 531.