NOTE: The legend of Sir Thomas Fleming in Virginia and the Earls of Wigton 'connection' was started by R.A. Block in an article he wrote for the Richmond Standard Feb. 7, 1880. This was debunked as early as 1902 in the William and Mary Quarterly. Unfortunately these fallacies continue to be published in various sources such as those by Harris and Fuqua with NO evidence to support them. There are DNA projects by Fleming groups attempting to prove/disprove the Fleming-Earls of Wigton connection. Reportedly, since the male Fleming/Wigton line failed in the 17thC., the chance of ever finding such proof isn't promising. Charles Fleming's descent from the Earls of Wigton is considered by some possibly, even probably true but again there is no proof. Its such a neat line-with Mary Queen of Scots' Lord High Chamberlain and one of her lady's in waiting etc. We wish it were true but in genealogy, wishing doesn't make it so.

Additional Curator's Notes:

Charles Fleming was born December 12, 1659 and died October 7, 1717. Contrary to many web trees he was not descended from the Scottish Earls of Wigton. Those Flemings are well-documented and it can be proven that this is a different Fleming line. Charles was the son of John Fleming of Charles Parish, Virginia, and wife Mary. Mary was not a Bolling; her maiden name is not known. There was a Mary Bolling who married a John Fleming, but her John Fleming was born in a different town in a different year. It is important not to confuse the two Marys or the two John Flemings.

Charles Fleming did not emigrate to Virginia in 1616. Sources disagree on his place of birth as either Scotland or Virginia, but the date of birth is consistently put as 1650-1660. As his father was known as John Fleming of Charles Parish, Charles could very well have been born in Virginia. The key to determining the place of birth will be in finding when his father emigrated.

He did not marry Susannah Tarleton in England. They were married in Virginia, about 1684, Susanna was the daughter of Stephen Tarleton who died in 1687. Stephen Tarleton resided in New Kent County, just south of York River. He was a merchant and planter, owning slaves and extensive tracts of land in New Kent, King William, Henrico and what is now Goochland Counties. The Tarleton family may have been Quakers.

Exercise caution in crediting children to Charles and Susanna. The list of offspring varies greatly, depending on which source is used. As curator for this profile, I will be working on verifying the list of their children.

Maria Edmonds-Zediker, Volunteer Curator, December 31, 2014

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About Fleming, Col. Charles

The Earl of Wigton Errata: Col. Charles father has, from various sources been given as John, James, Alexander-but no connection has been confirmed. Are we connected to the Earls of Wigton? There are a number of earlier sources out there that said that this is true; they continue to pop up! no matter how much later genealogists try to dispel them! These are based on faulty research & have NO basis in fact! The records of the earliest Fleming emigrant to Virginia are sketchy; this first emigrant has been given by some sources as Sir Thomas Fleming who emigrated in 1616 & descended from John 6th Lord 1st Earl Wigton in Scotland-a title which is now dormant. His son John would have been the father of Charles Fleming. However, there is no real proof of the existence of Thomas Fleming.

Another version that has become more accepted gives the first emigrant & Charles father as John Fleming, the son of Captain Alexander Fleming who was the son of John Fleming, 5th Lord Fleming, Chamberlain of Scotland & the father of John, 6th Lord Fleming. Malcolm 3rd Lord Fleming who married Janet Stewart, the illegitimate daughter of James IV of Scotland, was Lord Chamberlain of Scotland & a favorite of Mary Queen of Scots who danced at their wedding. Janet was governess to Mary Queen of Scots. Malcolm & Janets daughter Mary was one of the "four Marys" who were ladies-in-waiting to the Queen. She was called "the Fair Mary" & much is written about her. I have this line back to Archembald of Flanders lord of Bratton, Devonshire & Cornwall. The Fleming family & the collateral lines include some of the most important families in Scottish history.

While it is possible-some think probable-at this point there is no proof of a connection between this line, the Earls of Wigton & our Virginia Flemings. As much as we would like it to be true...wishing doesnt make is so. As good genealogists-we must go only on facts. There are now attempts to find a "Wigton Fleming cousin" & connect thru a DNA marker. But the Fleming male line in Scotland appears to have failed in the 17thC., which would make this research moot. Such are the joys of research. However, we do descend from Col. Charles Fleming.

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"Charles Fleming of St. Peter's Parish, New kent, (whom Mr. Brown, in "The Cabells and their Kin," styles Colonel Charles Fleming) patented land in that county in 1688, and in King and Queen Count in 1701. He also possessed considerable landed estates in the present county of Goochland (then Henrico). Accounts of surveys by Rich'd Ligon, surveyor of Henrico, include, on November 15, 1706 one of 1430 acres for Chas. Fleming; on August 11, 1709, one of 1429 acres, and in November 1709, another of 670 acres.

There is on record in Henrico, a deed, dated October 1717, from Charles Fleming of New Kent, 500 acres in Henrico, adjoining Fleming's Plantation.

In December 1720 there was a suit in Henrico by John Fleming, executor of Chas. Fleming. The latter died between 1717 and 1720, and by his marriage with Susanna

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, had issue:

• John Fleming, born November 1697; died November 6, 1756, married January 20, 1727, Mary Bolling
• Tarleton Fleming
• Judith Fleming married (first) October 16, 1712 (St. Peter's Register) Thomas Randolph of "Tuckahoe", and (second) in 1733, Nicholas Davies of Goochland. Their marriage contract, in which John and Tarleton Fleming, gentlemen, were trustees, was dated December 24, 1733 and recorded in Goochland.
• Susannah Fleming married (first) John Bates of York County, and was ancestress of Edward Bates, Attorney General of the United States; Frederick Bates, Governor of Missori; James Bates of Arkansas, M. C.; and Thomas Fleming Bates, member of the Virgiia Conventon of 1829 and (second) John Woods (Wm. & Mary Quartery VI, 123 and "Cabells and their Kin"). There is on record in Goochland a deed dated April 17, 1736 from Tarlton Woodson of Henrico, to Col. John Fleming of Goochland, conveying 1290 acres in Goochland (part of "what's known as the Lickinghold survey" --500 acres of said land had been given by the will of Charles Fleming to his grandsons Charles Jordan and George Bates. And also a deed in Goochland, dated April 1736, from John Fleming to his "cousins" (nephews) Charles Jordan, George Bates, Samuel Jordan and Matthew Jordan, conveying 500 acres in Goochland, which he had bought from Tarlton Woodson.
• Unnamed daughter Fleming married Unknown Jordan, and was mother of Colonel Samuel Jordan of "Seven Islands", Buckingham County, member of the House of Burgesses for that county ("Cabells and Their Kin" and deed cited above. (It is believed this is the "Elizabeth Fleming" shown below as "8."
• Unnamed daughter Fleming (probably) married Unknown Hughes. There is on record in Goochland, a deed dated May 20, 1729, from John Fleming of Goochland, to Stephen Hughes of the same county; conveying 732 acres in Goochland, the upper end of a tract of land called Fleming's Park, being the land directed in the will of Charles Fleming, to be conveyed by his heirs or executors to the said Hughes. Possibly, however, this was only a sale in which Charles Fleming had not had time to make a deed.
• Unnamed daughter Fleming (probably) married Bowler Cocke of Henrico County. In 1725, Tarleton Fleming and Bowler Cocke, "devisees of Charles Fleming' received a regrant of 1430 acres, formerly patented by Charles Fleming.
• Elizabeth Fleming "daughter of Charles and Susanna Fleming, born October 23 (or 28) 168-- (St. Peter's Register). She may have been one of those, noted above, whose Christian names are unknown (Genealogies of Virginia Families - From The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography). post em by Karen Cotter cotterkaren@yahoo.com 2002-08-05 on Database: jkes-gedcom Ancestry.com.

Source: Dava Osborn Jones; EMail: kdjones@kih.net 1/98 Descendant of Gabriel Jackson Penn>Martin Wilson Penn, Danville, KY. Ky.com/BoyleCounty/historic.htm ____________________________________

There is a story that when the troops of Lt. Col. Banastre Tarleton entered Charles Fleming's home and found the Tarleton arms engraved, he was so furious he cut the stair fail with his sword. He had ordered a wholesale destruction of property, and realized this would include members of his family. The exact relationship between his family and Stephen Tarleton is not known.

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"Charles Fleming was a Headrights of Emperor, Gale and Morgan Feb 18,1653. "

"April 18, 1668, Charles Fleming, Planter, New Kent Co. VA. received a grant for 1079 acres in the Parish of St. Peter in the Co. aforesaid to the line which divides this from the Lands of John Fleming, dec'd." (VA Land G rants, Book 7, p 658; Book 8 p 105)

Source: Southside Virginia Genealogies

"Charles was possibly the son of John Fleming who, 'departed this life t he 27th day of August and was buried the 30th day of August 1686'. When Charles secured a patent to 1079 acres in St. Peter's Parish, 18 April 1688, it was described as next to the land of John Felming, deceased.

Fleming held 2000 acres in New Kent County 23 October 1690, 1184 acres in Pamunkey Neck 25 April 1701, and paid quit rents on 1700 acres in King William County and 920 acres in New Kent County in 1704.

Charles had a patent to 1427 acres on the south side of the James next to John Pleasant, 732 acres on the north side against Elk Island, and 670 acres on the south side of the river 16 June 1714. Richard Ligon surveyed 2 of these tracts for Fleming. With John Woodson the same day, he got a patent to 1278 acres on the north side of the James. Since Woodson died before they could divide the land in 1717, Charles sold his interest to John Thornton of New Kent County the same day that Tarleton Woods on and John Woodson sold Thornton the interest they inherited from their father. Both Woodson brothers were Fleming's sons-in-law. The same day, Tarleton and John Woodson swapped 500 acres in Henrico County with Fleming.

In New Kent County, Charles got 1900 acres 16 August 1715, and he was back in Henrico County in 1718 with 1430 acres on the north side of the James next to Captain John Bolling.

We have no will of Charles Fleming. Deeds in Goochland County reveal that he left 500 acres to grandsons Charles Jordan, and George Bates. Should they die, the land would go to Jamuel Jordan and Matthew Jordan. A petition identified Tarleton Fleming and Bowler Cocke as devisees of Charles Fleming.

He also direct 'Fleming Park' of 732 acres be sold to Stephen Hughes, which was done 15 February 1738/39".

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CHARLES FLEMING, son of John Fleming and (perhaps) Mercy or Mary, was born about 1652, perhaps in Glasgow or Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland, and came by 1653 with his parents to America. He and his wife were living 7 Oct. 1717; but he was dead by Dec. 1720, when his executor to his will, John Fleming, was mentioned. His will is gone. He married about 1684, SUSANNA TARLETON. She was the daughter of Stephen Tarleton who died in 1687. He resided in New Kent County, just south of York River. He was a merchant and planter, owning slaves and extensive tracts of land in New Kent, King William, Henrico and what is now Goochland Counties. The family were Quakers.

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1. Susannah b. ca 1685 New Kent County, Virginia d. 1757 New Kent County, Virginia (will Nov 15, 1757 Goochland Co, Virginia) md John Bates.

2. Anna b. abt 1705 New Kent County, Virginia md Josias Payne b. Oct 30, 1705 Goochland Co, Virginia (ancestor of Dolly Madison)

3. John Fleming md Mary Bolling (Pocahauntas line)

4. Tarleton md Hannah Bates (John Bates sister)

5. Judith md Thomas Randolph

6. Ursula md Tarleton Woodson

7. Elizabeth md Samuel Jordon.

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Miscellaneous Facts and Information about Alexander Fleming

1612-1668 , Scotland, England, Virginia

tammer101 originally submitted this to Randy Minton on 23 Sep 2007

Notes for Captain John Fleming:

The family had extensive land grants. Alexander Fleming patented 5790 acres, between 1658 and 1667, on both sides of the Rappahannock River. No accounting has ever been made of all this land. John, between 1658-1680, was granted 2643 acres; and Charles, between 1688-1719, 11,700 acres.

These three grants are quoted to show that Charles was the son of John:

       20 Apr. 1680.      To John Fleming & Andrew David, 1000 a. in New Kent County,

for transportation of 24 persons.(Book 7:25)
18 Apr. 1688. To Charles Fleming of New Kent County, Planter, 1079 a. in
the Parish of St. Peter in the county aforesaid "to the line which
divides this from the lands late of John Fleming decd." Due for
importing 22 persons. (Book 7:658)
23 Oct. 1690. To Charles Fleming, 1000 a. in New Kent County. The said
land being formerly granted to Jno. Fleming & Andr. David,
by patent dated the 20th of Aprill 1680 and by them deserted
& since granted back to Jno Fleming by order of the General
Court dated the 16th of Aprill 1690, and is due for importing
20 persons. (Book 8:105)
A Tentative Arrangement. In the light of the known facts and the family tradition, this seems to be the logical Fleming genealogy:
CAPTAIN ALEXANDER FLEMING, second son of John Fleming, 2nd
Earl of Wigtown, and his wife, Margaret Livingston, was born about 1612,
probably at Cumbernauld, Lanark, Scotland. He died in Rappahannock Co.,
Virginia, between 30 December 1668 and 13 March 1668-69. He married 1st
probably about 1631, ELSPET or ELIZABETH ANDERSON, daughter of
William Anderson. She was probably the headright to Virginia in 1650. He
married 2nd before 5 July 1658, URSULA, the widow of John Browne,
"late of Accomacke, Decd."
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Flemings as Headrights and Land Owners

garystauffer6originally submitted this on 3 Jun 2008

Finding Your Forefathers in America, A.F. Bennett, 1957 p 123:

On February 12, 1937, I sent for publication to the editor of the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography an article on "The Fleming Family." One paragraph read: "An examination of this family tradition in the light of facts now obtainable seems to indicate that the immigrant ancestor was Captain Alexander Fleming and not Sir Thomas, and that he was indeed the second son of John Fleming, second Earl of Wigtown in Scotland and that John Fleming, elder brother of Judge William, was actually the legal heir to the earldom from 1747 until his death in 1767. after which his eldest son, Major John Fleming who fell in the Battle of Princeton, 'was then heir to the Earldom of Wigton.'"

Page 127, ... Alexander Fleming is said to have come to Virginia in 1649-50. He was a headright 15 Feb. 1655.

2 July 1650. Eliza. Fleming headright of John Oliver

18 Feb. 1653 Cha. Fleming a headright of Emperor, Gale and Morgan

8 Nov. 1653. John Fleming a headright of Joseph Croshaw, York Co., on the south side of York River.

1 Sep. 1653. Christopher Fleminge a headright of Col. Wm. Clayborne, Sec. of State, land at Pamunkey, N. side freshes of York River.

12 Oct 1652. Patrick Flemin a headright of Anthony Hoskins, Northampton Co.

16 Sept 1663. William Fleminge a Headright of Col. Abraham Wood, Charles City Co.

17 Apr. 1667 Robert ffleming a headright of Alexander Fleming on south side of Rappahannock River.

Page 128, It is significant that of these both Alexander and John received grants of land in 1658, each for 250 acres, Charles and William received no grants until 1688 and 1691, respectively, being evidently children when they were brought over. It is likely that the Eliza. Fleming was the first wife of Alexander Fleming, the Elpset (or Elizabeth) Anderson whom he had married before 1646 in Scotland. John was probably their son, and the father of Charles, William and perhaps Christopher..

These three grants are quoted to show that Charles was the son of John:

20 Apr 1680. To John Fleming & Andrew David, 1000 a. in New Kent County, for transportation of 24 persons.

18 Apr. 1688. To Charles Fleming of New Kent County, Planter, 1079 a. in the Parish of St. Peter in the county aforesaid "to the line which divides this from the lands late of John Fleming decd." Due to importing 22 persons.

23 Oct. 1690. To Charles Fleming, 1000 a. in New Kent County. The said land being formerly granted to Jno. Fleming & Andr. David, by patent dated the 20th of Aprill 1680 and by them deserted & since granted back to Jno Fleming by order of the General Court dated the 16th of Aprill 1690, and is due for importing 20 persons.

Page 130, CHARLES FLEMING, son of John Fleming and (perhaps) Mercy or Mary.., was born about 1652...

Children

1. Elizabeth, b abt 1685, bapt. 28 Oct 168_ St. Peter's Parish, New
Kent Co., VA md. 10 Dec. 1703, SAMUEL JORDAN

2. Ursula, b abt 1687, md 3 Aug. 1710, her first cousin, Tarleton Woodson. It was their son Charles who wrote the tradition.

3. Judith, b abt 1689 d before 1743; md 1st at St Peter's Parish, 16 Oct 1712, COL THOMAS RANDOLPH; md 2nd contract dated 24 Dec 1733, NICHOLAS DAVIES.

4. Susanna, b abt. 1691, d in 1757 between May and 15 Nov; md 1st. 12 Apr 1713, JOHN BATES JR, md 2nd, after 1723, JOHN WOODSON.

5. Grace, b abt 1693, int to marry, 10 April 1712, GEORGE BATES

6. Sarah, b abt 1695; md abt 1719, BOWLER COCKE

7. John b Nov 1697, d 6 Nov 1756 md 20 Jan 1727 MARY BOLLING

8. Tarleton, b abt 1699, d in 1750 between 30 Oct and 18 Dec md HANNAH (BATES?)

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Capt. Alexander Fleming 1612 - 1668 ~~~~~

MargaretMastororiginally submitted this to Vogel/Dunigan Family Tree on 12 May 2008

(Capt.) Alexander Fleming Birth: 1612, Cumbernauld, Larnock (Lanarkshire), Scotland Died: 30 Dec 1668/1669, Rappahannock County, Virginia, age 56 years.

Father: (Earl) John Fleming. Mother: Margaret Livingston

Immigrated: To the Virginia Colony, uknown year.

Alexander Fleming married three times.

Married: Elizabeth (Elspet) Anderson; daughter of William Anderson and Name Unknown.rs. Anderson. Birth: About 1614, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Death: 6 Oct 1655/1656, Rappahannock County, Virginia, age 42 years. Marriage: About 1631/1632, Scotland.

Known Children of Capt. Alexander Fleming and Elizabeth (Elspet) Anderson:

i. John Flemming Birth:  1627. Death: 

ii. John Fleming Birth: 1627-1633, Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Death: 27 Aug 1686, Charles Parish, York County, Virginia, at 53 years of age. Burial: His body was interred 30 Aug 1686, Virginia. Married: Mercy or Mary MNU, Scotland Marriage: Before 1651.
iii. Elizabeth Fleming Born: About 1635, Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Died: Married 1: Rowland Thornton. Marriage 1: Married 2: Robert Payne. Marriage 2: Before 4 Jun 1683.

iv. Alexia Fleming Born: About 1637, Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Died: Before 6 Sep 1692. Married: Thomas Pace Marriage: 1683.

Other wives of Alexander Fleming: Married 2: Mrs. Ursula Brown. Married 3: Mrs. Joyce Hoskins.

Source:

Book: "The Cabells and Their Kin" by Alexander Brown,1895 p. 185 - New Index & Reprint by Randolph Wall Cabell, 1994. Desc. David A. Landers, EMail: DLanders@compuserve.com 10/97

Book: 20th Century Cabells & Kin Call Number: 929.273 c111

EPITAPHS COPIED FROM THE FAMILY CEMETERY AT "SOLDIER'S JOY," NELSON COUNTY, VIRGINIA By Lenora Higginbotham Sweeny.

William Montgomery Sweeny, "Higginbotham Family of Virginia," William and Mary Quarterly, 1st Ser., XXVII, 123-125.

"Genealogies of Virginia Families": From the William and Mary Quarterly Historical Magazine (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1982), Vol. III, pp. 55-57.

Book: Tuckahoes and Cohees: Settlers of Amherst & Nelson Counties Author: Seaman, Catherine Hawes Coleman Publication: 1992 Call Number: F 232 A 55 S 43 1992

Book: English Duplicates of Lost Va Records Author: Louis des Cognets, Jr. Publication: 1958

Rodney D. Veitschegger, Bowling Green, Ky. EMail: Rdvsr@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 Msg to jbass 29 May 2002. Isaac WINSTON Winston.wps" desc is Cynthia Anne KERR. From: Rdvsr@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 Subject: WINSTON family To: jbass@digital.net.

Bob Juch's Kin http://www.juch.org; Bob Juch's Kin on Ancestry.com. visit web site at: http://fm.society. home.att.net Fred Fontaine, Librarian, The Fontaine/Maury Society.

Hopkins of Virginia and Related Families; Author: Walter Lee Hopkins Publication: J. W. Fergusson & Sons. Richmond, Virginia. 1931.

The Winstons of Hanover County, Virginia and Related Families, 1666 - 1992 Author: Alfred Sumner Winston III Publication: Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimore MD 1992

Royal descent of Fleming of Virginia http://www.public.usit.net/rwkeylon/page12.htm. Earl R. Bates, EMail: ebates@terraworld.net Msgs on Tarleton Genforum

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• Updated from WikiTree Genealogy via wife Susanna Fleming (born Tarleton) by SmartCopy: Jan 23 2015, 17:55:47 UTC

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• Updated from Find A Grave Memorial via Susanna Fleming (born Tarleton) by SmartCopy: Jan 23 2015, 22:34:43 UTC

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GEDCOM Note

(Research): A PUZZLE YET TO BE SOLVED See notes for Sir Alexander & "Sir Thomas Fleming
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Our family descends from the Kings of Scotland through David I to the Randolphs & Ishams. However, our descent from Robert the Bruce is predicated on our descent from the Lords of Fleming & Earls of Wigton. Many sources have given our Virginia Flemings descended from this line but various sources are in disagreement as to the connection to our ancestor Col. Charles Fleming. «b» CAVEAT«/b»: «u»«b»There is at present no proof of this connection«/u». «/b» However, under the notes including those for Thomas Fleming, I have attempted to give the various theories & the sources that have proposed these theories. It is a puzzle yet to be solved.

WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL AMERICAN FLEMING? Most historians seem to agree that our Virginia Fleming line descends from the Earls of Wigton. However, the confirmed descent of the original emigrant has been cause for much conjecture. The following are the most usual possibilities: 1. Sir Thomas Fleming, son of the 1st Earl of Wigton came to Virginia in 1616-and was the father of Col. Charles. (The Earls of Wigton's records cannot confirm a Thomas) This Thomas, however, is frequently given as progenitor of the line. 2. Alexander, b. c 1613 who in some charts is given as the 4th son of the 1st Earl of Wigton. (See below) He came to Virginia about 1640-50 marr. Elizabeth Anderson and had a son John who marr. Mary or Mercy and had Col Charles. 3. The 1st Earl of Wigton had a son James who marr. Janet Brisbane. He had son John who was of age in 1643 and he may be the father of our progenitor. Some say that there were Fleming brothers from this line that came to Virginia together...(some say via Ireland)...names in this line: Alexander, John, Thomas and Richard.
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«i»Compendium of American Genealogy«/i»- «i»The First Families of America«/i» Vol Pg 604: Lists a Malcolm Fleming (b.1880) who is said to be the descendant of Sir Thomas Fleming, 2nd son of Lord John Earl of Wigton and Lilias Graham, dtr of the Earl of Montrose who came to Jamestown and settled in Kent Co. Va. and married a Miss Tarleton.
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Fuqua book by Irwin also has the descent:from Alexander (d. 1667/9 in Old Rappahannock Co., Va.) who had son John, father of Col. Charles Fleming.

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From «i»The Bates Booster«/i» Vol 2, Number 4 August 1973 «i»The Secret Diary of William Byrd of Westover«/i» 1709-1712 Wright & Tinling: March 29, 1711 "I rose about 7 o'clock and neglected to say my prayers. The Governor made me a compliment...About 9 o'clock I ate boiled milk for breakfast. About 10 I took leave of the Governor and when I had see him to Pamunkey River I and the gentleman with me returned and had one of the Major's sons for our guide as far a Mr. Fleming's where we drank an abundance of cider but we could not see his pretty daughters because they had gone to a meeting. Mr. Fleming himself went with us to show us the way to the bridge where I took leave of the gentleman that had been with me to wait on the Governor and rode by myself home, where I arrived about 9 o'clock and found all well, thank God Almighty"

Note: Charles Fleming of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, was a large landowner. One of his pretty daughters was probably Judith who married in 1712 Tom Randolph, and another Susannah, who married John Bates.
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John 6th Lord - Alexander- John - Col. Charles From «i»The Bates Booster«/i» Vol 15, Number 5 89 September 1986 «u»Royal and Noble Ancestors of the Bates Family «/u» (Again, this is unproven)«u» «/u» The early Fleming lineage by Russell P. Baker, Deputy Director of the Arkansas History Commission n Little Rock, Ak. and a descendant of John Bates, the settler. On August 5, 1713, John Bates, son of John Bates, son of George Bates, son of John Bates, the settler, married Susannah Fleming, daughter of Charles Fleming of New Kent County, Va., thus uniting two of the Old Dominions's oldest families. Susannah Fleming, later the wife of John Woodson, was born in October of 168?. She was the daughter of Charles Fleming, who was the son of John Fleming and the grandson of Capt Alexander, the settler. (Alexander has often been misidentified as "Thomas Fleming") Alexander was born about 1613 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. He married Elizabeth Anderson. His son, John, was born in Scotland. The family came to America on "The George" in 1635. The settled in Rappahannock County on an estate named Westfalia. Capt Fleming died there in the "the later part of 1668." He signed his name "Allex Ffleming." He was the fourth child of John Fleming, 6th Lord Fleming, who in 1606 received the title Earl of Wigton/Wigtown, Lord Fleming and Cumbernauld. He was the grandson of Malcolm, 3rd Lord Fleming, Great Chamberlain of Scotland, and the sheriff of Dumbarton (castle) in the reign of King Alexander of Scotland. John 6th Lord was the great-grandson of the distinguished Flemish leader, Baldwin of Flanders or Flanderensis, son of Stephen of Flanders of Bratton who first assumed the name Fleming (one from Flanders) Sir Malcolm, one of many of that first name, 3rd. Lord Fleming, succeeded his father John 2nd Lord Fleming as Great Chamberlain of Scotland. No doubt this position enabled him to win the hand of Johanna of Jonet (Janet), the "natural" daughter of James, Earl of Buchan and Countess of Bothwell. James had a number of illegitimate children. The Stewart kings of Scotland trace their line back to Flaald fitz Alan-Stweat of Dol in Brittany in 1097, which descendants of John Bates and Sussannah Fleming Bates can as well. Sources: «i»Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of British Empire «/i» George E. Pankey,«i» John Pankey of Manakin Town, Virginia, and HIs Descendants «/i» «i» Genealogies of Virginia Families from the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography,«/i» Vol. V. «i»Dictionary of National Biography«/i»

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This agrees with the Fuqua book, and with several others as well. But, what I find interesting is that this is the ONLY Alexander to appear in their lines. It is usual that children are named after forbears...Col Charles' 3rd daughter is Judith. (after Judith Tarleton, his mother?) There is no son Thomas, but Thomas does appear in the line, Alexander does not.

GEDCOM Note

COL. CHARLES FLEMING
«i»*Who is his father?!
«u»«/i»The Ongoing Enigma of Our Fleming Descent «/u» ( "Earl of Wigton descent"-see caveat below.) Wurts states that he was a surveyor of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, Virginia from 1689 to 1707 & died about 1720. From Marjorie Ingebretson of Kelseyville, Ca., she gives the following: Charles is the son of John, the son of Alexander Fleming who was the second son of John Fleming who was the 7th Earl of Wigton... Charles Fleming was born in Scotland in 1652. "Charles Fleming was a headwright of Emperor, Gale & Morgan 18 Feb. 1653." He married about 1684, New Kent County of Virginia by 1164 & lived in New Kent County. "April 18, 1688, Charles Fleming, Planter, New Kent County, Virginia, received a grant for 10-79 a. in the Parish of St. Peter in the county aforesaid to the line which divides this from the lands of John Fleming dec'd. This was for importing 22 persons (Va. Land Grants, Book 7, p. 658). Charles Fleming died between October 7, 1717, & December 1720. Charles Fleming was the son of John Fleming & Mary or Mercy (Va. Land Grants, Book 7, p. 658;Book 8, p. 105). («i»Finding Your Forefathers in America«/i», A. F. Bennett, 1957, pp. 128-130) From the book: *«i»Fuqua-A Fight for Freedom ... «/i» Other sources say that Alexander was the son John Fleming the 1st Earl of Wigton...On one chart a 4th son of the 1st Earl of Wigton is listed as Alexander. According to a letter from *T. B. Harris: The descent Is: Sir Thomas Fleming of Wigton: he had a son John who had Charles Fleming who acquired a large Estate in land in the Counties of New Kent, Hanover, Henrico and Goochland. In 1714 he sold his land in Henrico County to his cousins John and Tarleton Woodson, and 1717 he conveyed by deed the Elk Island Tract on the James River to John Thornton, Clerk of New Kent County. He established his home in St. Peter's Parish and married Susannah Tarleton. They had Elizabeth Fleming who married Samuel Jordan on October 10, 1703; Urcilla Fleming who married Tarleton Woodson (her cousin) on April 3 1710; Susannah who married John Bates, Jr., on August 5, 1713; Judith Fleming who married Col. Thomas Randolph on October 1, 1712 and after his death, she married Mr. Davis. Charles Fleming and Susannah Tarleton had three sons: Tarleton Fleming, Charles Fleming and John Fleming. John Fleming was born in 1698 and died in 1756. He married Mary Bolling. Charles Fleming died between 1717 and 1720 and his Estate was settled by his son, John Fleming, his executor. it appears from records that some of the daughters of Charles Fleming became affiliated with the Quakers.

• With both the Fuqua and Harris accounts, there is NO proof that our Virginia Flemings are descended from the Earls of Wigton.

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RECORDS Charles Fleming of St. Peter's Parish patented land in county in 1688 & in King & Queen Co. in 1701. He also possesssed considerable landed estates in Goochland Co (then Henrico Co). Account of the surveys of Rich'd Ligon-Surveyor for Henrico include, on Nov. 15, 1706 one of 1430 acres for Charles Fleming; on Aug 17, 1709, one of 1429 acres and in Nov 1709, one of 670 acres. There is on record in Henrico, a deed dated 1717, from Charles Fleming of New Kent and susanna (sp) his wife, conveying to John Thornton of New Kent, 1287 acres on James River (now Goochland) called Elk Island, which had been patented by Fleming in 1714. By deed, Henrico, Oct 1717, Tarlton & John Woodson conveyed to Chas. Fleming of New Kent, 500 acres in Henrico, adjoining the Fleming's Plantation. In Dec. 1720 there was a suit by John Fleming, executor of Chas. Fleming...
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«i»Quit Rents Roll«/i» Virginia 1704 Tribute to King by Smith 1957: Charles Fleming New Kent Co. 920 acres
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«b»CAVEAT! «/b»Legend of Sir Thomas Fleming in Virginia-and the Earls of Wigton 'connection' was started by R.A. Brock in a column he wrote for the Richmond Standard 7 Feb 1880. Brock's information was debunked as early as 1902 in the «i»William and Mary Quarterly«/i». Unfortunately, the same information continues to be repeated in various books, sources etc, with NO evidence to support it. There is no evidence of a Thomas Fleming in Virginia. Neither is there proof of John Fleming being the father of our ancestor Col. Charles Fleming. He may have been related as they lived on adjacent land and Charles too up a patent which had first been granted to John. (See notes for John Fleming.)

The preponderance of the evidence is now that the Virginia Flemings have, at present,«b» «u»no confirmed connection to the Earls of Wigton«/u». «/b»The following is the connection that has been noted in the past: «u»Descent according the Fuqua book is: «/u» Sir Robert Fleming follower of Robert the Bruce Sir Patrick Fleming m. dtr. of Simon Fraser Sir Malcolm Fleming m. Christian Sir David Fleming of Biggar & Isabel, Heiress of Monycabo Sir Malcolm Fleming, Lord of Biggar & Cumbernauld m. Elizabeth Steward, dtr of the Robert Duke of Albany & Governor of Scotland Robert Fleming 1st Lord Fleming m. 1st Janet Douglas 3rd dtr. of James, 7th Earl of Douglas Sir Malcolm Fleming of Monycabo m. Eupheme dtr of James Lord Livingston John Fleming 2nd Lord Fleming m. 1st Eupheme Drummond 5th dtr of David, Lord Drummond Malcolm Fleming 3rd Lord Fleming m. Janet Stewart, natural dtr. of James IV by Isabel Stewart, Countess of Bothwell, dtr of James 3rd Earl of Buchan John Fleming 5th Lord Fleming (succeeded his brother James) m. Elizabeth Ross, only child of Robert, Master of Ross. John Fleming 6th Lord Fleming, 1st Earl of Wigtown m. Lilias Graham, only dtr of John Graham, 3rd Earl of Montrose John Fleming 7th Lord Fleming, 2nd Earl of Wigtown m. Margaret Livingston, 2nd dtr. of Alexander, Earl of Linlithgow Capt. Alexander Fleming said to have emig to VA 1649-1650 m. 1st Elizabeth Anderson. He was a 2nd son of John Fleming John Fleming m. Mary or Mercy He was born in Scotland emig to VA where he was a headwright in 1653 Col. Charles Fleming born in Scotland

«b»The above is «u»not«/u» confirmed.«/b»
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The disagreements appear after John Fleming & Lilias Graham. Most sources put Thomas as their son while Fuqua & others do not list Thomas but have their son as John, his son as Captain Alexander & his son John as the father of Col Charles. John 7th Earl of Fleming, 2nd Earl of Wigtown was baptized abt Dec 9, 1589, at Kinkardine, Scotland. He succeeded his father as Earl in 1619. He was appointed member of the Privy Council in 1629. His marriage contract to Margaret Livingston, 2nd dtr of Alexander, Earl of Linlithgow, was dated Feb. 20, 1609. He died at Cumbernauld May 7, 1650. Captain Alexander Fleming: Born abt. 1612, Lanark, Scotland. He is said to have come to VA 1649-1650. He patented 5790 acres between 1658-1667 on both side of the Rappahannock River. He marr. 1st in Scotland, Elizabeth/Elspet Anderson, dtr. of William Anderson. "Alexander Fleming died between 30 Dec 1668 & 13 Mar 1668-9 in Rappahannock County, Virginia." Captain Alexander Fleming was the 2nd son of John Fleming, 7th Lord Fleming. John Fleming was born abt 1633 in Scotland. He married Mary or Mercy & was a Virginia headright in 1653. He generous grants of land in New Kent County in the years 1658, 1670, 1673, 1680. "John Fleming departed this life ye 27th day of August & was buried ye 30th day of Augt 1686. (The Register of Charles Parish, York County, Virginia, 1648-1787, p. 59) Col. Charles Fleming
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This makes sense to me, with the dates & all. I am putting it here for further consideration...There is still this confusion with "Thomas" & the fact that the name Thomas appears in the children's names but not Alexander.
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• «u»There is no proof of a Sir Thomas Fleming. Col. Charles' father is, as yet, unknown«/u». There are DNA projects attempting to prove/disprove the Fleming-Wigton connection. Since, reportedly, "the male Fleming (Wigton) line- failed in the 17thC."...it doesn't look promising. It's such a neat line of descent, that we wish it were so, but in genealogy-wishing doesn't make it so.------------------------------------ The online site «i»sdragons.com«/i» in an article by Frances Cowlles says that the Earl of Wigton had two sons: John & Sir Thomas & that Sir Thomas m. a Miss Tarleton, emigrated to Virginia-that they had 3 sons-Tarleton, John & Charles. John d. in New Kent, Va. 1686-leaving a son Charles who m. Susannah Tarleton who were the progenitors of the colonial Virginia Flemings.

But again,the Earl of Wigton connection to the Virginia Flemngs is possible, even probably but there is, as yet, «u»NO PROOF«/u»!

GEDCOM Note

Book Old Kent County-Tarleton-Fleming Old New Kent County-Some Account of The Planters, Plantations and Places in King William County
St. John's Parish Vol II Malcolm Harris MD Compiled and Copyrighted 1977 West Point, Va. Y Y

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GEDCOM Source

@R503450768@ Ancestry Family Trees Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=158643364&pi...

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Multiple land patents were issued to Charles Flemmings including:

• 18 Apr 1688, 1079 acres St. Peters Parish between Matadequnn and Totopotamoys Creeks, adjacent land of John Fleming
• 23 Oct 1690, 1000 acres New Kent County, adj. Andr. Davies on brs. of Machumps Creeks
• 25 Apr 1701, 1184 acres King & Queen County in Pamunkey Neck on brs. of Mahixon Creek
• 16 June 1714, 1427 acres Henrico County on south side of James River
• 16 June 1714, 732 acres Henrico County on north side of James River, against Elk Island. Later 670 acres of this patent (lapsed land) granted to Thomas Randolph
• 16 June 1714, with John Woodson, 1278 acres Henrico County on north side of James River, against Elk Island
• 16 Aug 1715, 1900 acres New Kent County, St. Paul's Parish on br. of Pamunky River called Newfound River, down Poplar Branch
• 12 July 1718, 1430 acres Henrico County, north side of James River, above Capt. Bollings Island (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fleming-32)

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• Residence: St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Virginia, British Colonial America - from 7 October 1717 to December 1720
  • Reference: FamilySearch Genealogy - SmartCopy: Nov 17 2022, 18:15:32 UTC

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Disputed child

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/83825214/ann-penn

It has been noted here in the past that her [Ann Dudley] parents were Charles Fleming and Susanna Tarleton. This is incorrect. Charles would have been born between 1692-1700. His parents, Alexander Fleming and Sarah Kennedy married in 1690. He was mentioned in his father's will in 1720 and given land. Ann Fleming Penn was born about 1706 making it impossible to be a daughter of Charles Fleming and Susanna Tarleton. Charles and Susanna did have a daughter named Anna, but she married Josias Payne.