Edward “Ned” Vann, Sr.

• Not the husband of Charity Vann
• Not the same as Edward Ned Vann, Jr.

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Biography

Updated 3 January 2023

Extracted from https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vann-26

He should not be confused with the Edward Vann (abt.1720-abt.1773), who died in Bertie, North Carolina.

This Edward Vann married about 1736 to Mary, daughter of Mary (Odom?) and her first, unknown husband. Mary’s mother married second to Richard Barnes, who died in 1728.

We know Mary’s origins because in 1759 there was an estate division, at the widow Mary Barnes’ death, of Richard Barnes’ property. Edward Vann was mentioned as the husband of Mary's daughter Mary.[1]

Many researchers claim that Mary died, and he then married a woman named Charity (maiden name unknown, and also seen as Mary’s sister). It is possible he remarried, but there is no proof of a second wife. Mary did not have a sister or stepsister called Charity.

Edward and Mary Vann left Bertie, North Carolina in 1757 and acquired land in South Carolina the next year in 1758.

In 1758, when Edward acquired the patent in South Carolina for 200 acres, the condition to receive the land patent was that the patentee could received 50 acres for each member of his family. The four individuals needed to qualify to patent 200 acres would have been: Edward, his wife, Clement age 12, and Avery, age about 10. His older sons applied for patents on their own, even though these cannot be found. His daughter Edith married A. A. Coody about this time. Lastly, daughter Susannah could have been born soon after the date of the patent.[2]

23 July 1757 - Edward Vann & Wife Mary to John Lakey for 13 pds. 15 sh. For 200 acres on the NWS of Easternmost Swamp adj. John Howell, William Coleman, Thomas Jackson, Alexander Ford, James Graves. Wit. Jas. Butterton, Hardy Hunter. July Court 1757. [3]

In 1758, Edward acquired land near John Vann along the Savannah River, but on the South Carolina side. [4] [5]

On 18 Sep 1758 Edward Vann was granted 200 acres on the South Carolina side of the Savannah River, next to John Vann’s plantation (which was soon to be seized in a lawsuit). The land grant for William Cabean show that both Edward and his brother John Vann were in the area.

Children[6]

1. Joseph Vann [so-called "John Joseph"] m. Wah-li Vann; b. ca. 1737; d. 1800.
2. Edward ( "Ned") Vann II m. Mary King; b. ca. 1740; d. 1833 Horn's Creek, Edgefield Co., SC. [11/1/1818 an old man named Ned Vann visited Spring Place. He was a "blood brother of the father of James Vann and the mother of Joseph Crutchfield"]
3. Jenny Vann; b. ca. 1742; d. ca.1820. (Clement Vann visited Spring Place with his sister Jenny.)
4. James Vann; b. ca. 1744; d. ca. 1820 Wilkes Co, GA
5. Clement Vann m. Wah-li Vann; b. 4/3/1746; d.ca. 1832. (He came into the Cherokee Nation ca. 1779.)
6. Thomas Vann m. Anne [said to be a Cherokee woman]; b. ca. 1747; d. ca. 1839 Madison Co, Alabama
7. Edith Vann m. Arthur Archibald Coody; (b.1742; d. 1782 Horn's Creek, Abbeville District, SC); b. ca. 1752; d. 1805 Wilkes Co, GA. [Edward Vann was one of the adminstrators of A. A. Coody's will; another was Littlejohn Perdue, who may have married a Coody daughter; a young man named Greenberry Perdue, whose mother was named Coody, visited Spring Place with his relative Joseph Crutchfield (i.e. 2nd cousin)]
8. Avery Vann, Sr.; b. ca. 1755; d. ca. 1810. [Avery Vann, "a younger brother of Clement Vann" visited Spring Place.It was probably his son, Avery Vann, Jr.(contemporary in age with James Vann) who married Peggy McSwain (granddaughter of Indian trader John Downing). They were the progenitors of a large Cherokee family (the humorist Will Rogers descends from this line).
9. Susannah Vann m.(ca.1786) John Crutchfield (b. ca. 1755; d. ca. 1810, Wilkes Co,GA); b. ca. 1760; d. ca. 1800 Wilkes Co, Georgia

Death

No death or estate records have been located. One site[7] states he died in March 1773, while others show his death date as shortly after 1758.[8]

Research Notes

Don Greene, in his largely fictional Shawnee Heritage series, claims Charity was the sister of Edward's first wife, Mary Barnes. There is no proof of a second wife.

From “John Vann, trader among the Cherokee.” (Wednesday, March 15, 2017) pioneersalongsoutherntrails.blogspot

Fig. 12 – Colonial Plat showing Fort Charlotte and “the Path to Vanns.”

References

1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vann-1190 cites
   1. Probate Records of Chowan County, North Carolina Bound Miscellaneous Papers 1694-1799.
   2. https://pioneersalongsoutherntrails.blogspot.com/2017/03/john-vann-...
   3. Bell, M. B., 1963. Colonial Bertie County NC Deed Books A-H 1720-1757. Greenville, SC: Southern Historical Press, p. 255. Source: Bertie County, North Carolina Deed Book H, p 440
   4. 1758/Apr/04 Laid out unto Edw’d Vann, a track of land containing 200 acres, situate in Granville County bound by Savannah River on the SW of John Vann’s plantation on the SE. (Edward's land was later identified in a patent of his neighbor, William MacGregor).
   5. South Carolina Dept of Archives and History, series#S213184; v8; p273; item#01 on 1758/09/18 for Edward Vanne, plat for 200 acres in Granville County; names indexed ... Gaston, John; Leigh, Egerton;Vanne, Edward; Vanne, John.
   6. https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/vann/1920/
   7. https://pioneersalongsoutherntrails.blogspot.com/2017/03/john-vann-...
2. http://cavespringga.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-vann-info.html (May have errors)
3. http://www.southern-style.com/powhatan_vann.htm (contains speculative & disproven connections - use carefully for clues only before 1800.)