Elizabeth Comyn

Elizabeth Comyn [1]

• F, #213412
• Last Edited=4 Dec 2006

Elizabeth Comyn married Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot, son of Gilbert Talbot, 1st Lord Talbot and Ann le Botiler.[1] Her married name became Talbot.[1]

Child of Elizabeth Comyn and Richard Talbot, 2nd Lord Talbot

• 1.Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord Talbot+1 d. 24 Apr 1387

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Elizabeth Comyn [1]

• F, b. 1 November 1299,
• d. 20 November 1372, #2727
• Father John Comyn [2],[3],[4],[5] d. 10 February 1306
• Mother Joan de Valence [2],[4]
• Birth* Elizabeth Comyn was born on 1 November 1299.[1],[6],[4]
• Arms* Her arms were Sealed: Three Garbs (Birch).[7]
• Marriage* She married Sir Richard Talbot M.P., son of Sir Gilbert Talbot and Anne le Boteler, between 24 July 1326 and 23 March 1327.[1],[6],[8],[5]
• Marriage* She married Sir John Bromwych between 21 February 1358 and 16 February 1361.[4]
• Death* She died on 20 November 1372 at age 73.[1],[4]

Family 1 Sir Richard Talbot M.P. b. circa 1305, d. 23 October 1356

• Child
  • 1. Sir Gilbert Talbot M.P. b. c 1332, d. 24 Apr 1387

Family 2 Sir John Bromwych d. before 20 September 1388

Last Edited 30 Aug 2004

notes

"He [Gilbert Talbot] married, between 24 July 1326 and 23 March 1326/7, Elizabeth, 2nd daughter and (in 1316) coheir of John Comyn, LORD OF BADENOCH, by Joan, daughter of William DE VALENCE, and sister and coheir of Aymer DE VALENCE, EARL OF PEMBROKE. He died 23 October 1356, aged about 51, and is said to have been buried at Flanesford Priory. His widow, who was born 1 November 1299, married, between 21 February 1357/8 and 16 February 1360/1, Sir John BROMWYCH, who died shortly before 20 September 1388. She died 20 November 1372, aged 73. [Complete Peerage XII/1:612-14, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]"

Citations

• 1. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 95-31.
• 2. [S168] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 95-30.
• 3. [S233] Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Charta Sureties, 141-4.www.findagrave.com

Elizabeth Comyn Talbot
BIRTH 1 Nov 1299
DEATH 20 Nov 1372 (aged 73)
BURIAL
Burial Details Unknown
MEMORIAL ID 228134161

Elizabeth was the ancestress of the Earls of Shrewsbury and held the castle of Goldfinch in Herefordshire
On the 24th of July 1326, Elizabeth and her nephew David Strathbogie were found to be the nearest heirs of her brother John Comyn, she was also, in the same year, found to be one of the heirs of her uncle Aymer, Earl of Menbroke.

In 1324 Elizabeth's uncle on her father's side, Aymer de Valence, the Earl of Pembroke, died.
Since he had no surviving children, Aymer's considerable lands were then divided amongst his sisters; Isabel de Valence had died in 1305, leaving her share to her son, John Hastings, whilst Elizabeth's mother left lands to her daughters Joan and Elizabeth.
Joan inherited the manor and castle of Mitford, the manor of Ponteland, and lands in Little Eland, and the manor of Foston. Elizabeth inherited the powerful fortress of Goodrich Castle and the manor of Painswick
By the mid-1320s, however, England was in the grip of the oppressive rule of the Marcher lords Hugh le Despenser the older and his son Hugh Despenser the younger, the royal favourites of King Edward II
As part of a "sweeping revenge" on their rivals, especially in the Marches, the Despensers illegally seized a wide range of properties, particularly from vulnerable targets such as widows, or wives whose husbands were out of favour with the king.
John Hastings was effectively controlled by the Despensers and they ensured that he inherited an unequally large settlement of the Pembroke lands, anticipating that they would be able to marry him into their family and thereby acquire control of the estates themselves.
To deal with Elizabeth, however, stronger measures were necessary. Upon her inheritance, Hugh le Despenser the younger promptly kidnapped Elizabeth in London and transported her to Herefordshire to be imprisoned in her own castle at Goodrich.

Threatened with death, Elizabeth was finally forced to sign over the castle and other lands to the Despensers in April 1325.She was also forced to sign a debt notice of £10,000, a huge sum, which was witnessed by John de Bousser a corrupt royal justice.
Released, Elizabeth then married the English knight Richard Talbot, the 2nd Baron Talbot Queen Isabella of France landed in England in late 1326 and deposed both the Despensers and her husband Edward II; Richard promptly seized Goodrich Castle from the Despensers, and Talbot and Elizabeth regained their legal title to the castle the following year. The Despensers were both executed on the Queen's orders.

Elizabeth and Richard did well in the coming years. They had a son, Gilbert, in 1332. Richard progressed at court under Edward III and eventually became a royal steward. After Richard's death in 1356, Elizabeth remarried to Sir John Bromwich. She died in 1372.
Elizabeth's heraldic device was three garbs, which she maintained as her own, rather than adopting her husbands

Family Members
Parents
John Comyn
unknown–1306
Joan de Valence Comyn
unknown–1307

Spouse
Richard Talbot
1302–1356

Siblings
John IV of Badenoch Comyn
1294–1314

Children
Gilbert Talbot
1331–1386

• 4. [S287] G. E. C[okayne], CP, XII - 614.
• 5. [S284] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Talbot 10.
• 6. [S233] Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Charta Sureties, 141-5.
• 7. [S285] Leo van de Pas, 30 Jun 2004.
• 8. [S287] G. E. C[okayne], CP, XII - 613.

Links

• http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id...
• http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/8/59893.htm