Elizabeth Green

Not a known wife of Swindels. Seen as maiden name Lynde with no sources.

Disputed Origins

No reliable sources have been found for her last name being Lynde. The only references for the Lynde last name are not considered reliable (Millenium File, US and International Marriages, DAR & SAR Applications).

Biography

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-581419

Elizabeth (___) was born about 1610 using the standard assumption on WikiTree that she was about 20 at her first known marriage.[1]

She married Thomas Greene about 1630,[1] likely to be in the area of Toppesfield, Essex where Thomas' first wife Mary Smith was buried and where Thomas & Elizabeth's child Henry was christened in 1639.[1]

Immigration

The family apparently left England after the January 1639 christening of son Henry and seemed to have been living at the farm of "Lady Moodey" in Lynn, Massachusetts as early as 1644 based on a 1662 deposition by Thomas..[1]. It is possible that they left England by April 1642 when Thomas did not appear in his mother's will. However, their exact immigration date is not known and it was NOT in 1635 on the "Planter" or the "Hopewell", those records seem to belong to a 15-year old Thomas Green on 2 consecutive days who is not seen further in New England per Anderson's "Great Migration".[2]

Note that Samuel Stillman Greene in his "Genealogical Sketch...&c" on this family finds that a Thomas Green came on the "Speedwell" on 28 May 1636 (Joseph Chappell, master) from London[3] Greene further believes, in contrast to Anderson above, that the 15-year old Thomas Green who registered to sail in 1635 may have been the one who lived in Roxbury 1648 with possibly his mother, "Widow Green" appearing in Roxbury church records. However, the author says this man removed to Malden, which would seem to conflate him with the Thomas Green of Malden married to this profile, Elizabeth Unknown. This volume also identifies a Thomas Green of Middlesex who wrote his will in Feb 1673/74 and died May 1674. This man married first Margaret (d. Jun 1667) and then Elizabeth Webb (m. Aug 1667), more details about this other family are given by Greene.

Death & Estate

She died in August 1658 at Malden, Massachusetts listed as "Elizabeth Greene wife of Th. Greene senr"[1][4]

Family

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Green-133

Thomas Green was married three times and was the father of eleven children. He married (1), at England, before 1625 (birth of child, 1625), Mary _____. She may have been the Marie Smith who married at St. Nicholas, Colchester, Essex, 28 June 1624, Thomas Greene,[18] possibly also the Mary Smith baptized St. Margaret's, Toppesfield 17 January 1606/7, daughter John Smith.[19] As Mary Greene, "w. Thomas" she was buried at St. Margaret's, Toppesfield, 8 September 1625,[20] the same day her daughter, also Mary, was baptized.

Thomas and Mary Green were the parents of one child,

Mary Green, baptized St. Margaret's, Toppesfield, 8 September 1625.[21] No further record, "Kempton" presumes that she died young. See Research Notes.
Thomas married (2), at England, say 1629 (birth of child, 1630), Elizabeth _____. She was born, probably England, about 1610 (birth of first presumed child, about 1630) and died at Malden, (6) 1658 [August 1658], "Elizabeth Greene wife of Th. Greene senr."[22]

Thomas and Elizabeth Green were the parents of ten children; the first five born England, all of whom migrated to New England--records of them are found there and each is named in Thomas' will.[23]

1. Thomas Green, born England, about 1630; named the "eldest son" in his father's will.
2. John Green, baptized St. Margaret's, Toppesfield, 6 December 1632;[24] "John Greene, Senr" testified at Cambridge, Massachusetts Bay, 10 September 1695, then "age 63 years or thereabouts."[25]
3. Elizabeth Green, baptized St. Margaret's, Toppesfield, 30 November 1634.[26]
4. William Green, baptized St. Margaret's, Toppesfield, 15 December 1636;[27] died Malden, 30 December 1705, aged 70 years.[28] Executor of his father's will.
5. Henry Green, baptized St. Margaret's, Toppesfield, 13 January 1638/9;[29] died at Malden, 19 September 1717, age 78 years, 8 months.[30] Executor of his father's will.
6. Samuel Green, born at Massachusetts Bay, about April 1645 (died at Malden, 31 October 1724, aged 79 years, 7 months and 19 days).[31]
7. Mary Green, born at Massachusetts Bay, about 1647. It is possible that there was only one Mary (born 1625), but this is unproven; "Kempton" believes they were separate people. See Research Notes.
8. Hannah Green, born at Massachusetts Bay, say 1649. See Research Notes.
9. Martha Green, born at Massachusetts Bay, say 1651.
10. Dorcas Green, born Malden, 1 May 1653.[32]

Thomas married (3), at Malden, by Capt. Marshall, 5 September 1659, Frances Cook,[33] the widow of both Isaac Wheeler and Richard Cook.

Research Notes

The following was added to the profile, but may apply to a different Elizabeth:

Elizabeth Swindells Lynde was probably born in Prestbury, Lancashire, England to Deacon Thomas Lynde and Elizabeth Stratton. She married Thomas Green of St. Albans Hertfordshire, England, June 26, 1627.
Note from research by Ian Speed that Elizabeth Swindels did NOT marry Thomas Green in Prestbury in 1627, she married a John Greene. Thomas Greene was the bondsman, NOT the groom.[5]
They were married by licence dated 26 June 1627. Marriage Licences in the Diocese of Chester 1624-1632 (Record Society, 1909), page 98 says:
June … 26 John Green and Elizabeth Swindells, Parish of Prestbury, Chesh., Spinster. Bondsman, Thomas Green. At Prestbury and Revds. Newton and Lawrence Leicester, Clerks.[6]
She may have been the daughter of Deacon Thomas Lynde of Mass. She is listed as the surname Lynde Swindells in DAR and SAR applications. However, this known last name identifies a set of children apart from perhaps another set of children with parents names listed as Thomas Greene and Elizabeth. Furthermore, the data used otherwise is using the same resources nevertheless.

References

1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-581419
   1. Smith, Dean Crawford. The Ancestry of Eva Belle Kempton, 1878-1908 (NEHGS, Boston, 2000) Part 4, Page 300
   2. New England, The Great Migration and The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1635 for Thomas Greene Great Migration, Vol 3, G-H p. 150 $subscription
   3. Greene, Samuel Stillman, A genealogical sketch of the descendants of Thomas Green<e> of Malden, Massachusetts. Published 1858. Reference page 8
   4. "Births, Marriages and Deaths in Malden, Massachusetts" Vital Records from the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Vol. 10 p. 163
   5. "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3FW-7YD : 7 December 2017), John Greene and Elizabeth Swindels, 05 Jul 1627, Marriage; citing item 1, , Prestbury, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,093,600.
   6. "England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB1S-BM2 : 9 March 2018), Johnem Greene and Elizabetham Swindles, 26 Jun 1627; citing Cheshire, England, , Cheshire Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 1,885,391.
   7. http://lazyjltd.com/genealogy/documents/green%20register.pdf
2. https://mathcs.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/report/rr02/rr02_206.html#P25732
3. The ancestry of Eva Belle Kempton, 1878-1908. Page 292-293. < Archive.Org >