This Francois du Plessis de Richelieu is not a direct South African ancestor. He had been incorrectly merged into his cousin (our ancestor) using erroneous genealogical sources prior to Geni: This is the Francois duPLessis who is our ancestor

Unfortunately the depressing result of the above corrections is that the SA du PLessis line is no longer directly connected to Charlemagne, as it was relying, not on the du Plessis connection, but on this de Richelieu connection. And this de Richelieu Francois' line to Charlemagne is through his mother; whereas our Francois ancestor is the de Richeliu Francois' cousin only on the paternal line. Fuller Discussion & tracking of the process by which we discovered this.

Please see the du Plessis Family Project Page where I have put a fuller family tree tracking both lines. [Sharon June 2012]

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Parents

François du Plessis +1483

Renée Eveillechien

Marriages and children

Married in 1489 to Guyonne de Laval +1494, with

Aimée

Jeanne

Married on 31 March 1506 to Anne Le Roy, with

Louis du Plessis de Richelieu +1551

François +1563/

Jacques +1592

François

René

Antoine +1576

Anne ca 1520-1550/

Françoise

Sources:

- person: H. de la Bretèche

- family 1: H. de la Bretèche, H.de La Villarmois (Lachesnaye Desbois) 9 xi 2005, Th. Pingault ("Richelieu" collection du CGDT)

- family 2: Th. Pingault ("Richelieu" collection du CGDT)

Ref: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;i=784294

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08/21/2010 M Duplessis

Ref: http://a.decarne.free.fr/gencar/dat690.htm

Plessis (du), Francois de Neuville Lord Gender: Male

Décès : après 1514 Death: after 1514

Parents : Parents:

Père: Plessis (du), François seigneur de Richelieu Father: Plessis (du), Francis Lord Richelieu

Mère: Eveillechien, Renée Mother: Eveillechien, Renee

Famille: Family

Mariage: 25 janvier 1489 plusieurs filles Marriage: January 25, 1489 several girls

Conjoint: Spouse:

Laval (de), Guionne Sexe: Féminin Laval (of), Guionne Gender: Female

Décès : 1494 Died: 1494

Parents : Parents:

Père: Laval (de), Jean seigneur de Brée Father: Laval (de), Jean Lord of Bree

Mère: Gasselin, Françoise dame des Haies Gasselin Mother: Gasselin, Lady Frances Hales Gasselin

Enfant(s) : Child (s):

Plessis (du), Aimée Plessis (du), Aimee

Famille: Family

Mariage: 31 mars 1506 Marriage: March 31, 1506

Conjoint: Spouse:

Le Roy, Anne dame du Chillou Sexe: Féminin Le Roy, Anne lady Chillou Gender: Female

Naissance : vers 1485 Birth: about 1485

Note Note

Parents : Parents:

Père: Le Roy, Guyon seigneur de Mondon Father: Le Roy, Guyon lord Mondon

Mère: Beauval (de), Isabeau Mother: Beauval (de), Isabeau

Enfant(s) : Child (s):

Plessis (du), Louis seigneur de Richelieu Plessis (du), Lord Louis de Richelieu

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Jüngere Linie [Younger Son of Guillaume III d 1373)'s Line]

1. Sauvage, † 1409, Seigneur de La Vervolière, de La Valinière et de Favardines; ∞ 10. Juli 1388 Isabeau, Dame de Belarbe, † 1401, Tochter von Jean Le Groing, Seigneur de La Mothe-au-Groing – Vorfahren siehe oben

1. Sauvage
2. Geoffroi, Seigneur de La Vervolière, de La Valinière, du Petit-Puy et de Hautmont; ∞ Perrine, Dame de Richelieu, Tochter von Jean de Clérembault, Seigneur de Richelieu

1. François I., Seigneur de Richelieu, de Beçay, de La Vervolière et du Petit-Puy ∞ 21. November 1456 Renée, Tochter von Jacques Eveillechien, Seigneur de Saumoussay
1. François II., Seigneur de Richelieu, de Beçay, de La Vervolière, du Petit-Puy et de Neufville; ∞ I 25. Januar 1489 Guyonne, Tochter von Jean, Seigneur de Brée (Stammliste der Montmorency); ∞ II 31. März 1506 Anne, Dame du Chillou, Tochter von Guyon, Seigneur du Chillou. (Haus Le Roy)

1. (I) Aymée; ∞ Léon de Barbançois, Seigneur de Sarzay.
2. (I) Jeanne; ∞ 28. Oktober 1514 Mathurin du Theil, Seigneur de Frène.
3. (I) Renée
4. (II) Louis I., Seigneur de Richelieu, de Beçay, du Chillou et de La Vervolière, † 1551; ∞ 16. Januar 1542 Françoise, Tochter von Antoine, Seigneur de Saint-Amand (Haus Rochechouart).

1. Louis II., X 1555, Seigneur de Richelieu, de Beçay, du Chillou et de La Vervolière,

.

2. François III., Seigneur de Richelieu, de Beçay, du Chillou et de La Vervolière, † 10. Juli 1590; ∞ Susanne, Tochter von François, Seigneur du Boissier (Haus La Porte)

1. Henri, X 1619, Seigneur de Richelieu, de Beçay, du Chillou et de La Vervolière; ∞ Marguerite Guyot, Dame d'Ansac.
2. Alphonse-Louis, * 1582, † 24. März 1653, genannt Le Cardinal de Lyon, Erzbischof von Aix 27. April 1626-27. November 1628, dann Erzbischof von Lyon 27. November 1628-24. März 1653, Kardinal 19. November 1629, 24. März 1632-24. März 1653 Großalmosenier von Frankreich
3. Armand-Jean, * 5. September 1585, Bischof von Luçon 18. Dezember 1606-4. Dezember 1642, Kardinal 5. September 1622, August 1631, Duc de Richelieu, Marquis und Juli 1634, Duc de Fronsac, Pair de France (Patentbrief für Richelieu August 1631, für Fronsac Juli 1634, registriert für Richelieu 4. September 1631, für Fronsac 5. Juli 1634)
4. Françoise † 1615 ∞ I Jean de Beauvau, Seigneur de Pimpeau; ∞ II 28. August 1603 René de Vignerot, Seigneur du Pont-Courlay, † 1625 (Haus Vignerot)
5. Nicole, † 30. August 1635; ∞ 25. November 1617 Urbain, Marquis de Brézé, † 1650 (Haus Maillé)

3. Benjamin, Abbé de Montier-la-Celle 1573-1608
4. Louise, Dame de Beçay; ∞ 24. April 1565 François, Seigneur du Cambout, † 1625 (Haus Le Cambout)
5. Jeanne ∞ I Pierre Fretart, Seigneur de Sauve ∞ II Charles, Baron de Marconnay

5. (II) François, Seigneur de Beaulieu ∞ Françoise, Tochter von Pierre de Trion, Seigneur de Legurat

1. Jacquette ∞ François d'Aloigny, Seigneur de La Groye

6. (II) Jacques évêque de Luçon
7. (II) François Pillon, Seigneur de La Jabinière
8. (II) Renée abbé de Nieuil
9. (II) Antoine Le Moine, X 19. Januar 1576
10. (II) Françoise ∞ Georges L'Enfant, Seigneur de La Patrière
11. (II) Anne ∞ 11. Juni 1543 Gabriel de Mauvoisin, Seigneur de La Forêt, † 1557
2. Jeanne ∞ Louis Herpin, Seigneur du Château

2. Pierre, Seigneur de Hautmont
3. Antoinette ∞ Pierre Loubes, Seigneur de Gastevine
4. Jacquette ∞ 1451 Guyot de Giresmes
5. Isabeau ∞ 13. Januar 1451 Jean Herpin, Seigneur du Château

3. Jeanne ∞ Gilles Fretart, Seigneur de Sauve

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haus_Le_Plessis-Richelieu

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We are greatly indebted for a large amount of info elicited by a conversation that Hendrik DuPlessis had on ancestry.com on 5/7/05 1:51 PM:

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FRA-POITOU-CHARENTES/...

From: Rob Umney <umney@alphalink.com.au>

Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:41:34 +1000

In-Reply-To: <000101c58114$ceb20770$8f7627c4@homeogn5awoyl7>

François du Plessis, Lord of Richelieu, Neuville, Beçay, Vervolière and le

Petit-Puy, (my great-(x11)-grandfather), was born in 1480, the son of

François du Plessis and Renee Eveillechien. François married

(1) Guionne de Laval,

(2) Anne le Roy,

and one of his grandsons by Anne le Roy was Cardinal Richelieu.

François du Plessis first married Guionne (Guillone) de Laval, born about

1480, daughter of Mathieu Lord of Montmorency constable of France, and his

wife Emme heiress of Laval. It was through this marriage that he acquired

some of his lands. Mathieu of Montmorency had fought at the battle of

Bouvines.

François¹ second marriage was on 31 March 1506, when he married Anne le Roy,

daughter of the vice-admiral of France, Dame du Chillou and Mondon in the

estates of Jaulnay and Marigny, and descended from the royal families of

France.

François and Anne had six boys and two girls, including:

• Louis (the oldest, born 1520, he inherited the lordships of Beçay, la

Vervolière, Chillou and Richelieu and became the King's 'cup-bearer', m. [16

January 1542] Françoise de Rochechouart* b. 1535)

• François (Seigneur of Richelieu, known as 'Pilon', born 1548 at

Richelieu, died 1590 at Gonesse, m. [1580] Suzanne de la Porte de Vezins,

born 1560 at Bas-Poitou, daughter of François de la Porte and Claude

Bochard). They had five children, including Armand Jean who became Cardinal

Richelieu.

• Antoine (known as the monk, he became a captain under the King)
• Jacques (aumonier (chaplain) to King Henry II)
• Louise

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Here is a published family registry from 1868 that confirms what we are saying here, namely that there are two men named Francois II du Plessis, the one married once on 22/03/1541 to Francoise de Cherge; while the other Francois II du Plessis married on 25/01/1489 to Guyonne de Laval and on 31/03/1506 to Anne le Roy.

link: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=PzelhioHoMQC&amp;pg=PA332&amp;dq...

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