Gauthier van Nevele, Châtelain de Courtrai

The primary source which confirms the parentage of Gauthier has not been identified. The chronology suggests that he was the grandson of Everard [IV] Radoul Châtelain de Tournai, Seigneur de Mortagne (see above). Butkens names Gauthier “mentionné 1287, 1299” as son of “Raoul Châtelain de Courtrai, S. de Nevele” [presumably indicating Everard Radoul], younger son of Everard [IV] Radoul de Tournai who is shown above, and his wife “Jenne de Béthune, laquelle estoit veufve 1287”[1278]. After the death of Marguerite de Longueval Vrouw van Nevele, Gauthier’s descendant inherited Nevele as shown below. Gauthier’s daughter was therefore presumably the next senior heir of the Mortagne family after Robert, Marguerite’s grandfather who is shown above. If that is correct, Gauthier was presumably the father of Robert de Mortagne. The primary source which confirms that this is correct has not been identified.

GAUTHIER de Mortagne, son of [EVERARD Radoul de Mortagne Heer van Nevele & his wife Jeanne de Béthune] (-after 1299). Châtelain de Courtrai. Heer van Nevele. Butkens records Gauthier as son of “Raoul de Mortagne Châtelain de Courtrai, Sire de Nevele” and his wife “Jenne de Bethune veuve en l’an 1287, fille de Guilleaume Sire de Molembeke, de Locre et de Huysse mort en 1243”, noting that he was named in sources dated 1287 and 1299 (no sources cited)[1279].

m ([27 Jun] 1284) JOHANNA [van Beveren], daughter of [DIRK [IV] van Beveren Châtelain de Dixmude & his wife Marguerite de Brienne]. Her marriage is confirmed, and her family origin indicated, by a charter dated 27 Jun 1284 under which “Dame Agnes femme de...Thierry seigneur de Bevere chevalier châtelain de Dixmude” approved the act whereby her husband granted dowry (property “à Dixmude…la terre de Poesele”) to “sa sœur Jeanne” on her marriage to “Wautier seigneur de Nevele châtelain de Courtrai”[1280]. The properties in question were part of the Beveren family fiefs, which indicates that “sa sœur Jeanne” was Dirk van Beveren’s sister. The word “sa” in the summary of this charter (the original charter has not been checked) is unspecific and could alternatively apply to “Agnes”, in which case Joanna would have been her own not her husband’s sister. Agnes confirmed having received compensation for relinquishing her own rights in the property in question, indicating that she had a direct interest in both properties. They must therefore have formed part of her own dower granted by her husband. Why then were they removed from her and granted as dowry to the wife of Wouter van Nevele? One possibility is that Wouter insisted on the arrangement because Poesele is adjacent to Nevele. Another possibility, which seems less likely, is that Agnes agreed to relinquish the property to facilitate her own sister’s marriage, maybe because their father had insufficient means to provide an adequate dowry. Because of this uncertainty relating to the correct interpretation of the wording of the 1284 document, Joanna is placed in square brackets in the Beveren family in recognition of the possibility that she was a Condé. Letters dated 17 Apr 1287 confirmed that “Wautier seigneur de Nevele châtelain de Courtrai chevalier et Jeanne sa femme” had sold “ses manse, villa et terre de Warcoing” to “Béatrice de Courtrai veuve de Guillaume comte de Flandre” for her lifetime on 15 Oct 1283[1281].

Gauthier & his wife had [two] children:

1. [ROBERT de Mortagne (-[before 1315]). Butkens names Robert as older son of Gauthier[1282]. The primary source which confirms the parentage of Robert de Mortagne has not been identified. The succession to Nevele after his granddaughter’s death suggests that he may have been the son of Gauthier Châtelain de Courtrai. Heer van Nevele.] m ---. The primary source which confirms the name of Robert’s wife has not been identified. Maybe he married, as her second husband, Marie van Rasebeck, widow of Gauthier Seigneur d’Halluin, daughter of ---: Père Anselme names “Marie de Rasebeck” as wife of “Waultier seigneur de Hallwin et de Rosbeck, vicomte d’Harlebeck”, noting her second marriage to “N. châtelain de Courtray, dont elle était veuve en 1315”[1283]. No primary sources have been identified which corroborate her family origin and two marriages. Robert’s father was recorded as châtelain de Courtrai as noted above, and the chronology fits, especially Robert’s early death which would explain the absence of other references to him. Robert & his wife had one child:

a) MARGUERITE de Mortagne (-before 23 Aug 1335). Vrouw van Nevele. Goethals records a charter dated 23 Aug 1335 which names “Joannes de Longavalle miles, ratione ballii terræ de Nivelle, ad Margaretam filiam suam, minorem annis, ex successione Margaretæ matris suæ, uxoris quondam dicti militis”[1284]. m as his first wife, JEAN [I] Seigneur de Longueval, son of AUBERT [III] Seigneur de Longueval & his wife [Marie de Nesle] (-after 26 May 1377). One child:

i) MARGUERITE de Longueval (-before 17 Apr 1369). Vrouw van Nevele. Follow the hyperlink for her marriages and primary sources in which she is named.

2. JOHANNA van Nevele (-after 2 Aug 1344). Goethals names her parents without citing the source which confirms this information[1285]. “Joanna de Nevele domina de Boular et de Schendelbeke” donated “pratum in Rasebeke” to Beaupré, for the souls of “dominæ meæ Mathildis quæ fuit filia Roberti boni comitis Flandriæ, et domina de Florines et de Beverne...Sigeri de Liedekercke qui fuit dominus de Boular...Roberti domini de Nevele...meæ...Nicolai de Bailleul domini de Rossoit...Mathildis dominæ de Rossoit ipsius uxoris”, by charter dated 3 Mar 1341[1286]. A charter dated 2 Aug 1344 names “Jane van Nevele vrouwe van Boelaer”[1287]. m SIGER van Gavre Heer van Boelare, son of RASO [XII] van Gavre Heer van Liedekerke & his first wife Alix van Boelare (-after 11 Nov 1312). One child:

a) MATHILDE van Gavre ). Vrouw van Boelare. Goethals records her parentage and two marriages without citing the sources which confirm this information[1288]. “Joanna de Nevele domina de Boular et de Schendelbeke” donated “pratum in Rasebeke” to Beaupré, for the souls of “...Nicolai de Bailleul domini de Rossoit...Mathildis dominæ de Rossoit ipsius uxoris”, by charter dated 3 Mar 1341[1289]. m firstly NICOLAS de Condé Seigneur de Ronsoy, son of GUILLAUME de Condé Seigneur de Bailleul & his wife Beatrix de Thourotte (-22 Sep 1338, bur Saint-Siméon). m secondly GAUTHIER Seigneur de Honnecourt Châtelain de Thourotte, son of ---. Mathilde & her first husband had two children:

i) BEATRIX de Condé dite de Ronsoy ou de Bailleul (-[after 25 Oct 1370]). Vrouw van Boelare. Van Trimpont records that the daughter and heiress of Mathilde van Gavre and her husband “Nicolaas of Colard van Belle (Bailleul) heer van Ronsoit” in 1350 married “Jan de Fosseux heer van Fosseux” who in a charter dated 25 Oct 1370 is named “Jean seigneur de Fosseux, Ronsoit, Boulaere et Nevele”[1290]. Roland names her Beatrix[1291]. Vrouw van Nevele: the following document indicates that the wife of Jean de Fosseux succeeded Marguerite de Longueval as Vrouw van Nevele: a charter dated 17 Apr 1369 of “heer Inghelbrecht van Edinghen” records “de versterfte van Margriete van Longueval de vrouwe van Nevele sin wettelike wive was” and his agreement with “Jan van Fosseux (gehuwd met de nieuwe dame van Nevele)” concerning rights at Nevele[1292]. m (1350) JEAN Seigneur de Fosseux, son of --- (-after Sep 1376).
ii) CATHERINE de Condé dite de Bailleul (-after 22 Dec 1396). Roland records her parentage and marriage, noting that her son “Robert de Rouck” was later Seigneur de Morialmes, and was succeeded in 1420 by his illegitimate son Jacques de Fosseux (beheaded 1434)[1293]. “Catherine de Bailleul, mère de Robert le Rouck” made relief “de l’avouerie de Fosses, des terres de Morialmé et de Sautour”, which she held “comme mambour Willame de Bierne, fils de Willame, le bâtard de Morialmé, chevalier” by charter dated 22 Dec 1396[1294]. m --- le Rouck, son of ---.

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Walter III Van Mortagne (vermeld tussen 1274[381] en 1300[382]%29 heer van Nevele en Warkonje (Warcoing)[383], burggraaf van Kortrijk[384], grafelijk baljuw en schepen van het Doornikse, huwde met Johanna van Beveren. In 1280 en tussen 1289 en 1291 was hij eveneens grafelijk baljuw van Rijsel. In deze functie verkocht hij in 1290 gronden die grafelijke eigendommen waren. In januari 1284 trad Walter op als getuife van de verkoop van een hypothecaire rente door Rogier van Moeskroen aan de Notre Dame op doye (= Klein Begijnhof ter Hoyen te Gent) bezet op het Noerthout (= Noordhout, een heerlijkheid te Drongen).

Als huwelijkscadeau van zijn schoonbroer op 12 juni 1284 120 bunders land in Diksmuide die deze hield als leen van Gwijde van Dampierre, de graaf van Vlaanderen, alsook het volledig allodiaal grondgebied van Poesele.

English translation by DeepL: Walter III Van Mortagne (mentioned between 1274[381] and 1300[382]%29 lord of Nevele and Warkonje (Warcoing)[383], viscount of Courtrai[384], grave bailiff and alderman of Tournai, married Johanna of Beveren. In 1280 and between 1289 and 1291 he was also count bailiff of Lille. In this function, he sold land that was count's property in 1290. In January 1284 Walter acted as getuife of the sale of a mortgage interest by Rogier van Moeskroen to the Notre Dame op doye (= Little Beguinage ter Hoyen in Ghent) occupied on the Noerthout (= Noordhout, a seigniory in Drongen).

As a wedding present from his brother-in-law on June 12, 1284, 120 bundles of land in Diksmuide that he held as a feud from Gwijde van Dampierre, the count of Flanders, as well as the entire allodial territory of Poesele.

[381] Doornik, Archief van de kathredraal, cartulaire D, f° 97v° - 98. [382] Gent, Rijksarchief, Oorkonden der Graven van Vlaanderen, Fonds de Saint-Genois, nr. 247.
[383] Doornik, Archief kathedraal van Doornik, cartulaire A. f° 77r°-v°.
[384] Gent, Rijksarchief, Oorkonden der Graven van Vlaanderen, Fonds de Saint-Genois, nr. 1037.
[385] Dit is West-Vlaanderen, Brugge-Sint-Andries, 1961, dl. I, blz. 828.
[386] Gent, Rijksarchief, Oorkonden der Graven van Vlaanderen, Fonds de Saint-Genois, nrs. 549, 526; BUYLAERT F., Repertorium van de Vlaamse adel (ca. 1350 – ca. 1500, Historische Monografieën Vlaanderen 1, Gent, 2011, blz. 506.