Graaf Otto van Loon Gronsveld

OTTO de Looz, son of [GISELBERT Comte de Looz] & his wife [Liutgarde de Namur] (-1101 or after). The Vita Arnulfi names "Emmonem et Ottonem fratrem eius" as sons of Liutgarde, daughter of Albert [I] Comte de Namur[619]. From a chronological point of view, it is not possible for Emmo and his brother to have been the children of Otto de Looz who, as stated above, is recorded in other primary sources as the husband of Liutgarde de Namur. The primary source which confirms that Emmo and Otto were the sons of Comte Giselbert has not yet been identified, although this suggested parentage would fit the chronology of the family. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Ottonem comitem Durachii, fratrem Emmonis comitis de Los" when recording his installation in 1060 as subadvocatus of St Trudo[620]. 1046/1101. Comte de Duras.

m ODA de Duras, daughter of GISELBERT Comte de Duras & his wife ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.

Comte Otto & his wife had two children:

• 1. GISELBERT (-[1138]). The Vita Arnulfi names "Otto frater Emmonis" as father of "Gislebertum de Duraz"[621]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed donations to St Jakob, Liège by charter dated 23 Apr 1088, at the request of "Heinrico comite de Durbui", witnessed by "comite Cuonrado et Gileberto filio comitis Ottonis de Los…"[622]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Durachiensis comes Gyslebertus"[623]. Comte de Duras. "Comes de Claromonte Lambertus" granted the right to take wood from his forests in "predicti castelli" to the monks of Flône by charter dated 1136, witnessed by "comes Arnulfus de Los, comes Gislebertus de Duras, Walterus advocatus de Barz…"[624]. Sous-avocat of St Truido. m firstly GERTRUD, daughter of --- (-1114, bur Abbey St Trudo). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "comitissa Gertrude" as wife of "advocato nostro Gisleberto", naming "comite Arnulfo et Theoderico fratre eius", and specifying her burial in the abbey[625]. m secondly ODA de Chiny, daughter of OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny & his second wife Alix de Namur. Comte Giselbert & his first wife had seven children:
  • a) OTTO [II] (-1147). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Ottone et Gisleberto" as sons of "advocato nostro Gisleberto" and his wife Gertrude[626]. Comte de Duras. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium records a dying donation of "comes Otto" in 1147 and his burial in the abbey[627]. m as her first husband, BERTHE de Ribemont, daughter of GODEFROI [II] de Ribemont Châtelain de Valenciennes Seigneur de Bouchain & his wife Yolande van Geldern. The Chronicon Hanoniense records that "Yoandis comitissa vidua" married secondly "Godefrido de Bochesin castellano Valencenensi", by whom she was mother of "filium…Godefridum et filiam Bertam [uxorem] comiti de Duraz, deinde nupsit Egidio de Sancto Oberto a quo filium…Gerardum et filiam…[uxorem] Nicholao de Barbencione"[628]. She married secondly Guy de Saint-Aubert. Comte Otto & his wife had one child:
    • i) JULIANA (-1164). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. Heiress of Duras. m firstly GODEFROI Comte de Montaigu et de Clermont, son of LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu & his wife --- (-1161 or after). m secondly ENGUERRAND d'Orbais, son of BERNARD d´Orbais & his wife Ida de Coucy (-1185 or after).
  • b) CONON . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Seigneur d'Autreppes et de Diepenbeck. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1135/55.
  • c) GISELBERT . The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Ottone et Gisleberto" as sons of "advocato nostro Gisleberto" and his wife Gertrude[629].
  • d) GERARD (-1174). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Otto comes, frater eiusdem Gerardi", when recording the latter's appointment as Abbot of St Truido in 1145[630]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium records his resignation as abbot in 1155[631].
  • e) THIERRY (-1183 or after). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "frater eius Theodericus canonicus Sancti Lamberti et Bruno, qui post archidiaconatum eiusdem ecclesiæ meruit" as witnessing the donation of "comes Otto" in 1147[632]. Provost at Huy 1130/53. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1141/58. Archdeacon 1167/83.
  • f) BRUNO (-1177 or after). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "frater eius Theodericus canonicus Sancti Lamberti et Bruno, qui post archidiaconatum eiusdem ecclesiæ meruit" as witnessing the donation of "comes Otto" in 1147[633]. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1149. "Gilius quondam comes Durachiensis" donated property to the Knights Hospitallers, naming "Petrus frater meus comes de Monteacuto et Cono frater meus comes Durachiensis…et avunculus noster domnus Bruno archidiaconus", by charter dated 1175[634].
  • g) daughter . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m MAINERUS de Cortessem .
• 2. BOVO de Duras . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. m ---.
  • a) SIMON de Waha . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1103.
  • b) JULIEN (-1127 or after). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Seigneur de Waha. 1102/27. m MATHILDE de Fronville, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Julien & his wife had one child:
    • i) GUY . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1118/47.
  • c) HUGEL de Waha . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Châtelain de Mirwart. m CLEMENTIA de Chiny, daughter of ARNAUD II Comte de Chiny & his first wife Adela de Ramerupt [Roucy]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Hugel & his wife had one child:
    • i) LAMBERT . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1196/1223.
  • d) BOVO . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert [1108].
  • e) JEAN . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Abbot of St Hubert.

Source / Forrás:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.h...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselbert_van_Loon

Giselbert was succeeded by his son Emmo and possibly Otto, who ruled the county together. Giselbert was married to Erlande of Geldenaken, and they had the following children:

• 1 Emmo (died on January 17, 1078), Count of Loon
• 2 Otto (died in 1101), Count of Duras
• 3 Herman

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http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1427.htm#...

Otto I, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden1,2 M, d. after 1101 Father Giselbert I, Count von Loos, Hispengau d. a 1050 Mother Erlende of Jodoigne1 Charts Descendants of Charlemagne

    Otto I, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden married Oda de Duras, daughter of Giselbert, Graf von Duras.1,2 Otto I, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden died after 1101.1,2 Family Oda de Duras   Child ◦Giselbert, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden+1,2 d. c 1138

Citations 1.[S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. VI, Tafel 60. 2.[S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. VIII, Tafel 25.