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James Waters

Also Known As: "John James Waters (senior)"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, Middlesex, England (United Kingdom)
Death: before February 02, 1618
London, Middlesex, England (United Kingdom)
Place of Burial: St. Botolph Aldgate, London, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Henry Waters, II and Dorothy Stephenson
Husband of Phebe Plasse
Father of Dorothy Waters; Henry Waters; Martha Waters; John James Waters (junior); Phebe Waters and 4 others

Occupation: iron monger
Notable Kin: William Howard Taft, 27th Pres.
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About James Waters

James Waters, Ironmonger of London, was christened on August 29, 1568, in London, England. He married Phebe Manning in 1592 or 1595, in London, England. He was buried February 2, 1618, in the south churchyard at St. Botolph's without Aldgate. His widow remarried to William Plasse and later emigrated to America.

Family

From https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124032790/james-waters

James probably married Phebe Manning, daughter of George Manning and Johan (Wallys) Manning of Downe, Kent County, England soon after he became a freeman and was accepted into the guild. While there were several children, and I have:

  • John (ca Nov 1600-Jan 1601);
  • Phebe (ca Dec 1602-Dec 1603),
  • Richard,
  • Sarah (d. by 1603),and
  • Martha (d. by 1603).

[Comment: also seen as children who died young: Dorothy bap 1595; Henry bap 1596.]

only one son, Richard, survived. He was baptized 3 Mar 1604, Aldgate, London, England. On 26 April 1626, Richard was admitted into the freedom of the Ironmongers Company by patrimony and took his oath.

When James Waters made his will on May 17, 1617, he named his wife and minor son Richard and called himself an ironmonger. He asked to be buried in the churchyard at St. Botolph's, near his children. The will was proved on February 16, 1618 In his will, he gave one-third of his estate to his wife Phebe; one-third to his son Richard, and the reminder to be split between the church (John Briggs curate), his partner (Samuel Rowlands), the poor, and some friends (Ambrose Jennings).

References

GEDCOM Note

[David Dickson2-22-04.FBK]


Ancestral File

Ancestral File Number:<AFN> 9GMJ-H1 From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.

BIRTH: birth about 1575, however many variations Possible father Henry To Do check for possible military record? One possible James is Jacobus son of Gulierlmi Waters and Margareta, christened 30 Jul 1675 Ightham, Kent, England

family group sheet sometimes includes two other children: Sarah, who may have been the daughter of Anthony Waters born in 1612 and also Martha who may have been Martha Waters born 13 Mar 1618 at Bingley, York, England; daughter of Thomas Waters and Grace Draper.

Parish in which children were christened was St. Botolph without Aldgate, in London, parish records filed as St. Butolph Aldgate. (Oldgate means the same as Aldgate, sometimes Aldersgate)

Life Sketch

James Waters, born August 29, 1568 in London, England; died February 2, 1616/17 in London, England. He was the son of Henry Waters and Dorothy Stephenson. He married Phebe Manning 1592 in England.
Phebe Manning, born Abt. 1566 in Downe, Kent, England; died Abt. 1642 in Salem, MA. She was the daughter of 32706. George Manning and 32707. Joan Wallis.

Notes for James Waters:

one possibility appears in the parish register of St. Giles Cripplegate, London; this is the chistening of James, son of Henry Waters, on 29 Aug 1568. There are two marriages for Henry Waters listed in other parish registers. One is to Dorothie Stephenson in Jun 1563 at St. Mary Abchurch. Henry had a dau., Mary, who was bp. there in Apr 1564. The second marriage is to Agnes Mounck on 9 Aug 1565 at St. Mary Magdellan, Milk Street. Of course, these Henry Waters may be 3 different men.

He is first mentioned in the records of the Ironmongers' Company of London in 1586 when at a Quarter Court meeting held on 26 Apr, William Burner or Bourne paid two shillings, six pence for presenting James as his apprentice. P. 6-James prob. m. Phebe Manning, dau of George Manning, soon after he became a freeman. Evidence of this conclusion is contained in the will of Phebe's brother, William Manning of London. It was written on 27 Feb 1596 and he bequeaths to his sister, Phebe Waters, five pounds of lawfull money of England to be paid unto her within one year after his death, "and if she shall far long live Jacob's the same to return unto my executors hereunder named." William mentions his brother, John and Thomas as well as cousin Elizabeth Lambert. The will was proved in 1608. Phebe Manning's father, George Manning of Downe, Kent, died in 1583. His will mentions his wife, Johan, and sons Thomas, John, George, William and Peter. He mentions his daughters, Elizabeth Greene, Anne Brownhall, Katherine Underhill, Joan Welch, Dorothie and Phebe. Dorothie was to get 30 pounds when she married. Phebe was to be sent to school under the tuition of Dorothie during the term of 6 years and was to receive £30 when she married. He mentions brothers, John and Henry. The overseers of the will were Richard Brownhall, Hugh Underhill and Griffin Greene. Gives some of the ancestry of the Manning family and the connection to Geoffrey Chaucer.

p.8-In the parish Clerk's Memos, William Plasse is named as scavenger for High Street in Dec 1595. His first banns to marry Marjerie Smith were read 4 Jul 1596; the second banns on 11 Jul, the 3d banns on 17 Jul and they were married 19 Jul 1596. "Mar Plas, dau of William Plas, a gunmaker dwelling in East Smithfield, was christened 5 Jun 1597." Nathaniel Plasse, son of William Plasse, gunmaker, was christened 16 Nov 1600. In the parish manuscript 9220 there is a listing for Ruthe Plasse, dau of William who was christened 25 Dec 1603. This Ruthe could be Rejoice who m. Richard Waters, son of James. "Margarie Plasse, wife of William Plasse, a snaphaunce maker for gunns, was buried 4 Aug 1618."

WFT3, ped #6290 seems to think that the above marriages of James Waters to Dorothy Stephenson and Agnes Mounk are correct, but it still remains to be proved.

Buried in "South yard of parish church of St. Buttolph without Algate".

More About James Waters:

  • Burial: February 2, 1616/17, East Smithfield, London, England
  • Christened: August 29, 1568, St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England
  • Occupation: Ironmonger
  • Will: 1617, London, England

More About Phebe Manning:

  • Burial: Salem, MA Children of James Waters and Phebe Manning are:
  • i Richard Waters, born March 3, 1603/04 in London, England; died July 16, 1676 in Salem, MA; married Rejoice Plaise 1630 in Salem, Essex, MA.
  • ii. John Waters, born 1600.
  • iii. Phebe Waters, born 1602.
  • iv. Judith Waters, born 1607.
  • v. Elizabeth Waters, born 1610.
  • vi. Mary Waters, born 1613.

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GEDCOM Source

S341-CR9 England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9841/records/60116753

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James Waters's Timeline

1568
August 29, 1568
St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, Middlesex, England (United Kingdom)
August 29, 1568
St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England, United Kingdom
August 29, 1568
St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England, United Kingdom
September 8, 1568
St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England, United Kingdom
1595
December 7, 1595
1596
December 12, 1596
1598
November 12, 1598
1600
November 30, 1600
London, London, England
1602
December 1, 1602
London, London, England
1605
March 3, 1605
St. Botolph Aldgate, London, Middlesex, England