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Jan Jacobse

Also Known As: "Jacobsz", "Jacobs"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Veere, Zeeland, Netherlands
Death: May 05, 1786
Cape of Good Hope
Immediate Family:

Son of Vader van Jan Jacobse
Husband of Anna Catharina Posthumus, SM and Magaretha Alida Jacobse, SM
Father of Hendrik Jochemus Jacobsz; Gerard Nicolaas Jacobse, a2b2; Jan Jacobse; Elsie Catharina Jacobs, a2b4; Elizabeth Johanna Jacobse and 1 other

DvN: SV/PROG 3
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About Jan Jacobse, SV/PROG

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Opvarende Jan Jacobse is jonger dan 17 jaar in November 1726 dus 1726-16 = 1710 en dus sy geboortedatum behoort na 1709 te wees.

Bron: Fanie Jacobs, b2c11d2e11f3g1


NOT 2nd Jacobs progenitor in South Africa. 1

  • The A was introduced by Pama/De Villiers.The A1 was uesed for Pierre and A2 for JAN.-The note says the larges of the families.Since then many versions appear and some understood the 1 2 as the order in which they arrived in the Cape of Good Hope.The definition of Proginator also varies..Depending on the definition,there are 9 or 17 Jacobs/Jacobse/Jacobsz/Jacobson. proginators.Geni shows only 3.-Until SAG is published and Geni is updated ,use the Original A2 to avoid frequent changes. Note by manager FJacobs

SAG not the final say this is GENI.
This a perfect example of wrong information in SAG why best to not to trust information in SAG publications. Errors on SAG should not be perpetuated on GENI
Then GENI becomes unreliable. One can make GENI as near perfect as possible by following GENI rules and proper valid original sources.

  • All sources Including Geni are not Perfect and should be open to debate.SAG has more--is that wrong?.

https://www.geni.com/projects/Irregularities-in-South-African-Genealogies-Suid-Afrikaanse-Geslagregisters/6374

 Kort lewens geskiedenis va n  Jan Jacobse Ter Veere.'''


Nadat Jan as Jonge in diens van die voc kamer Middelburg,tree ,doen hy diens vanaf Batavia op Die Babestein 1717 tot die schip vergaan..Hierna dien hy op die Palembang tot sy repatriasie na die Vaderland {Nederland}.OP sy terugreis trou hy met Anna Catharina Postumus in die Kaap.
In Nederland sluit hy weer by die VOC middelburg aan as Busschieter op die schip Zaamslag..,Hy reis slegs tot in die Kaap,waar hy uit diens van die kamer Middelnurg tree..
In diens van die kamer van Holland is Jan Vryburger{Landbouer},Brandmeester en Constable.
Sy twede huwelik met Magaretha Alida van der Trans ,dogter van n kransbesoeker,,het Jan 2 kinders
Jan Jacobse,Brandmeester is oorlede op 5 Mei 1785 aan Kaap de Goede Hoop.

                                                                                                                                                                       . AGE :

This is recorded in J an's VOC employment record. See attached. Voornaam opvarende Jan Achternaam opvarende Jacobse Herkomst opvarende Ter veer Datum indiensttreding 1726-11-07 Functie bij indiensttreding Jongen Uitleg over functie jonger dan 17 jaar, allerlei karweitjes aan boord Uitgevaren met het schip Barbestein

  • DEPOT KAB
  • SOURCE MOOC
  • TYPE LEER
  • VOLUME_NO 7/1/31
  • SYSTEM 01
  • REFERENCE 11
  • PART 1
  • DESCRIPTION VAN DER TRANS, MARGARETHA ALIDA. WIFE OF JAN VAN DER VEEN. WILL.
  • STARTING 17580000
  • ENDING 17580000
  • REMARKS FILED 1786.
  • Eerste Huwelik
  • HUWELIK: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSFQ-SRW2
  • Den 27 Febr. 1746:
  • Jan Jacobse van Ter Veere, geweeze loots van Palembang: jongman op het retourschip Spanderwout,
  • met Anna Catharina Posthumus van Cabo de Goede Hoop j.d. Marie
  • Tweede Huwelik : https://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-tow...
  • Den 10 dito
  • Jan Jacobsz, van Terveer, Brandmr. alhier, Weed:w
  • met Margaretha van der Trans, van Cabo de Goede
  • Hoop, Jonge Dogter
  • Jan Jacobse Van Veere, Zeeland, Nederlands, loods op die skip Spanderwoud v. Palembang, x Kaapstad 27.2.1746 Anna Catharina Posthumus, xx 10.7.1757 Margaretha Alida VAN DER TRANS
  • Vlgs GISA, Jacobs 201302 weergawe, bladsy 9.

Will of Jan Jacobse and Anna Catharina Posthumus 8 March 1746

Will MOOC7/1/9 No 16 dated 8 March 1746 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-9QLG-H and subsequent 3 images) of Jan Jacobse and Anna Catharina Posthumus. The will states that both the testator's parents were deceased and the testatrix's mother Elsje Cathari...

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-9QLG-H

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVH-99J3-V

This record contains the Death Record for Brandmeester, Jan Jacobse, on 5 May 1786. This record appears to be correct when cross referenced with Jan Jacobs' final will with his second wife Margaretha Alida van der Trans, referenced below. This will was proven on 31 July 1786...


Citizen at the Cape of Good Hope 08.02.1748


About Jan Jacobse, SV/PROG (Afrikaans)

Kort lewens geskiedenis vafamilysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NG6-Z1MPn Jan Jacobse Ter Veere.
Nadat Jan as Jonge,indiens van die kamer Middelburg tree,vaar hy op die Schip Babestein.Die Baberstein ,n vragskip,,was nie geskik vir die toenemende seerowery in die Persiese gollf nin.Sy word opgeknap en van Busse voorsien,terwyl die bemanning opgelei word om "busse t af te vuur.Die dieper waterlyn veroorsaak dat sy naby Ceylon vergaan..Jan oorleef en vaar hierna op die Palembang, ,waar hy as ervare matroos die pos van Loods verwerf.Tydens Jan se oorstaan aan die Kaap,raak hy bevriend met die Postumus famielie-.heel moontlik deur die privaat handel ,soos baie van die VOC amptenare.Die Postumus famielie vorm deel van die Duits-getroud met dogters van die Kaapsub-groep in die Tafelvallei..Hierdie groep burgers was vooruitstrewende boere/handelaars .Hendrik Swellengerbel en Cloete gaan tuis by hulle tydens Swellengrebel se binnelandse reis..In 1746 repatrieer Jan. na Nederland.Hy keer huiswaarts as passasier op die Spaanderwoud.Tydens die oorle in Tafelbaai,trou hy met Anna Catharina Postumus..In Nedelnd tree hy weer in diens van die kamer Middelburg as Busschieter op die schip Zaamslag..Hy voltooi sy diens te Kaap de Goede hoopwaar hy Vryburger word-maw hy is nou n Hollandse burger en die VOC amptenare spel sy agternaam as Jacobsz..Die Hollandse hoe amptenare het hulle verhewe bo die vryburgers geag.-In Batavia word na hul verwys as opgeswel soos n pitsweer.{Die Maleise woord kry n ander konnetasie in die Kaapse taal --Be##k..Jan bly egter Jacobse en doop sy kinders so.
In die Tafel vallei boerJan vooruit tot so n mate dat hy as Brandmeester verkies word..Brandmeester is n onbetaalde pos met belasting vrystelling en ander voordele.Ongeveer 1756 sterf Anna Catharina Postumus.
1757 trou jan met Margaretha Alida van der Trans,die dogter van n sieketrooster.[Sieketrooster is n belanrike pos in die regering en deel van die Weeskamer.]Jan bevind hom nou in die hoogste kringe van die Hollandse amptenary.Margaretha was erg gesteld op haar Hollandse agtergrond.In haar verklaring voor die Sekretaris gee sy Jan en die kinders se name as Jacobse,maar teken Jacobsz en gee die klein kinders van haarkinders op as Jacobsz-maw Hollands.
Die "Hollanders" behou die -sz tot in die hede terwyl die "Afrikaners"{Eertydse slawe en vrryburgers} Jacobs en Jacobse bly.
Jan $kinders by Postumus en 2 by v/d Trans gehad.
Jan Jacobse sterf in 1785

* LIDMAAT  - 1 Oktober1748 Jan Jacobse word lidmaat van Kerk

familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NG6-Z1MP

                                                                                                                                                                       . AGE :

This is recorded in J an's VOC employment record. See attached. Voornaam opvarende Jan Achternaam opvarende Jacobse Herkomst opvarende Ter veer Datum indiensttreding 1726-11-07 Functie bij indiensttreding Jongen Uitleg over functie jonger dan 17 jaar, allerlei karweitjes aan boord Uitgevaren met het schip Barbestein

  • DEPOT KAB
  • SOURCE MOOC
  • TYPE LEER
  • VOLUME_NO 7/1/31
  • SYSTEM 01
  • REFERENCE 11
  • PART 1
  • DESCRIPTION VAN DER TRANS, MARGARETHA ALIDA. WIFE OF JAN VAN DER VEEN. WILL.
  • STARTING 17580000
  • ENDING 17580000
  • REMARKS FILED 1786.
  • Eerste Huwelik
  • HUWELIK: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSFQ-SRW2
  • Den 27 Febr. 1746:
  • Jan Jacobse van Ter Veere, geweeze loots van Palembang: jongman op het retourschip Spanderwout,
  • met Anna Catharina Posthumus van Cabo de Goede Hoop j.d. Marie
  • Tweede Huwelik : https://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-tow...
  • Den 10 dito
  • Jan Jacobsz, van Terveer, Brandmr. alhier, Weed:w
  • met Margaretha van der Trans, van Cabo de Goede
  • Hoop, Jonge Dogter
  • Jan Jacobse Van Veere, Zeeland, Nederlands, loods op die skip Spanderwoud v. Palembang, x Kaapstad 27.2.1746 Anna Catharina Posthumus, xx 10.7.1757 Margaretha Alida VAN DER TRANS
  • Vlgs GISA, Jacobs 201302 weergawe, bladsy 9.

Will of Jan Jacobse and Anna Catharina Posthumus 8 March 1746

Will MOOC7/1/9 No 16 dated 8 March 1746 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-9QLG-H and subsequent 3 images) of Jan Jacobse and Anna Catharina Posthumus. The will states that both the testator's parents were deceased and the testatrix's mother Elsje Cathari...

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-9QLG-H

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVH-99J3-V

This record contains the Death Record for Brandmeester, Jan Jacobse, on 5 May 1786. This record appears to be correct when cross referenced with Jan Jacobs' final will with his second wife Margaretha Alida van der Trans, referenced below. This will was proven on 31 July 1786...


Citizen at the Cape of Good Hope 08.02.1748

  • ***Die Zeewse leeuw is by Jan Jacobse gebruik as profiel,aan gesien die Leeuw ook voorkom op die Nederlandse embleem.Verder Leeukop,leeuen lijf en leeuwen stert is die "berg reeks" te Kaap de goede hoop gegee deur die Zeeland skeeps vaders op hul eerste tog om die Kaap.
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Jan Jacobse, SV/PROG's Timeline

1709
1709
Veere, Zeeland, Netherlands
1748
September 22, 1748
Kaap De Goede Hoop
1751
August 9, 1751
1753
July 1, 1753
Cape of Good Hope

Jan Jacobse and Alida van der Trans baptised Jan Thus JACOBSE .Familly names were written by scribes .In later life jan appears as JACOBSZ