Joan “Jane” Copley

Jane or Joan Thwaites was buried in All Saints Churchyard, Batley, Metropolitan Borough of Kirklees, West Yorkshire, England

family

She married Lionel Copley 1435, son of Richard Copley and Margaret Denton. He was born ABT 1410, and died BEF 28 MAY 1508.

Their son John Copley b: ABT 1444 in Wighill, Yorkshire married 1 Anne Pigot b: ABT 1461

disputed ancestry

Seen as:

• daughter of Thomas Thwaites, of Lofthouse & Cattal
• daughter of John Thwaites (d c 1462] and Joan Thornton his 1st wife or Isabella Ryther his 2nd wife
• 'Lionel Copley, the testator's father, according to the Visit'n of 1684, married Joan dau. John Thwaites of Lofthouse ; or, according to Mr. Hunter, Jane d. Thos. Thwaites of Denton (South Yorkshire, i. 51)
• daughter of Thomas Thwaites, Esq,, of Thwaites & Denton (dates seem iimpossible)

supporting data

• 'Joan (Jane) Thwaites1,2
• 'F, b. circa 1420
• Father John Thwaites3,2 b. c 1380
• Mother Joan Thornton3,2 b. c 1382
• ' Joan (Jane) Thwaites was born circa 1420. She married Lionel Copley, Esq., son of Sir Richard Copley and Margaret Denton, circa 1443.2
• 'Family Lionel Copley, Esq. b. 1421, d. c 1508
• Child
  • John Copley, Esq.+2 b. c 1444
• Citations
• 1.[S11572] The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, by Gerald Paget, Vol. II, p. 265.
• 2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 446. link Joan Thwaites, wife of Lionel Copley, mother of John Copley b 1444, Daughter of John Thwaites, of Lofthouse [no mother listed]
• 3.[S11572] The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, by Gerald Paget, Vol. II, p. 442.
• http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1584.htm#...
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• 'Magna Carta ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham
• http://books.google.com/books?id=wHZcIRMhSEMC&pg=PA452&lpg=PA452&dq...
• Pg. 452
• 11. ANNE PIGOT, married before 7 Nov. 1485 JOHN COPLEY, Esq., of Batley, Yorkshire, son and heir of 'Lionel Copley, Esq., of Batley, Yorkshire, by Joan, daughter of John Thwaites, of Lofthouse, Yorkshire'. He was born about 1444 (aged 64 in 1508). They had four sons, John, William, Knt., Adam, Esq., and Lionel, and six daughters, Margaret (wife of ___ Saltmarsh), Mary (wife of John Portington), Anne, Joan (or Jenett), Isabel, and Elizabeth (wife of ___ Snydall). JOHN COPLEY, Esq., left a will dated 22 Dec. 1509, proved 9 Jan. requesting buried in the church yard of Batley near his parents. His wife, Anne, survived him.
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• 'Testamenta Eboracensia, Or, Wills Registered at York: Illustrative of the History, Manners ... (1884)
• http://www.archive.org/details/testamentaebora02claygoog
• http://www.archive.org/stream/testamentaebora02claygoog#page/n23/mo...
• XI. THE WILL OF JOHN COPLEY, ESQ., OF BATLEY.
  • [Reg. Test. viii. 28 a and 230 b.]
• Dec. 22, 1509. John Coplay* of the parishe of Batlay. To be buried in the church garth of Batlay nye my fader & moder. To on vyse makyng on Estur daie in the mornyng to the sepulcre iij s. iiij d. All the landes which my fadir 'Lionell Coplay' hath given to my too breder, Richard & Herry, with my consent & grant, them to have it duryng their lyves. To my wif her joyntre with her dowrie duryng her lyff. To William Coplay, my yonger son, Warmefeld, Snydall, Hillome, and Potirton duryng hys liff. To the mariage of ich of my iiij doghters, Anne, Jenett, Isabell, and Elisabeth, c marc, so that the marie & be guyded after the feoffers & myn executores. To Jane Portyngton, doghter of John Portington my sonne in lawe, xx li. To Mr. Thomas Coplay, my broder, an ambelyng horse which I rode upon myself. To my broder Richard an ambelyng horse. To my broder Herry+ on gray trottyng horse.
• * A few notices of the family of Copley of Batley may be of value. In vol. iv. pp. 46-50 are the wills of the testator's grandfather and uncle.
• 'Lionel Copley, the testator's father, according to the Visit'n of 1684, married Joan dau. John Thwaites of Lofthouse ; or, according to Mr. Hunter, Jane d. Thos. Thwaites of Denton (South Yorkshire, i. 51). On May 26, 1508, the will of Lionel Copley of Batley, esq., was proved (not copied) at York, and adm. was granted to Henry Copley, his ex'r. (Reg. Test. vii. 37 a.)'
• The testator married Agnes, dau. of Sir Geoffrey Pigot of Clotherham near Ripon, and she and her children are mentioned in the wills of her mother (Test. Ebor. iv. 6) and of her brother (Ibid. 213). The testator made a feoffment of his estates on Dec. 20, 1st Hen. VIII., which is appended to his will. The feoffees were "Thomas Wortlay knyght, John Norton th'elder, knyght, John Norton the yonger, esquyer, Herry Vavasor of Hesilwod, Thomas Lynlay of Lynlay, Thomas Sothill, Christofer Eltoftes of Rishworth & Herry Seyvell esquyeres, & Richard Coplay and Robert Herrison gentilmen." The directions are already specified in the will.
• + On Dec. 16, 1511, he makes his will :Herry Coplay, gentilman, par. Batley. To be buryed in the kirk yerd of Batley at the feet of my brother, John Coplay, lately departyed, neyr my fader & moder, of whos soulys God have mercy. My best horse, on saddill, etc., oon swerd, for my mortuarie. To Wm Copley, my nevew, oon rede satten dublet. To my neyce Anne Copley oon fether bed. Rawfe Savell. I will y't all such goodes, as rystes in my lady my suster's handes of myne uncle William's bequestes, go to the execucion of my will. To my nece Agnes Flemyng oon girdill. To my broder Richard my chalice. My nevew John Copley, my brother Richard Copley, and John Browne my ex'rs. [Pr. 22 Apr. 1512.] (Reg. Test. viii. 91 a.)
• http://www.archive.org/stream/testamentaebora02claygoog#page/n24/mo...
• To my wiff all my goodes here & att Thorpe Awdlay. To John my son viij oxen & iiij kie, if he be of good demeaner unto my wif & the feoffers, &, if the mater go forth betwixt me & Sir Richard Wodrof, I will that all such goodes as Sir Thomas Wortlay awes me I gif it to my iiij doghters' mariage. I make myn executours Annes my wiff & William my son, at her pleasur.
• [Pr. 9 Jan., adm. ex'rs.]
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• https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=139517083
• https://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...
• https://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...
• *Magna Carta Ancestry, Douglas Richardson, 2005 Page: 452