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Joan Etchingham (FitzAlan)

Birthdate: (38)
Birthplace: Arundel Castle, Sussex, England
Death: September 1, 1404 (34-42)
Cheddington, Buckinghamshire, England (Did she die in childbirth?)
Place of Burial: Assumption of Blessed Mary and St Nicholas, Etchingham, Rother District, East Sussex, England
Immediate Family:

Daughter of John FitzAlan, 1st Baron Arundel and Eleanor Maltravers, 2nd Baroness Maltravers
Wife of Sir William de Etchingham; Sir William de Etchingham and Sir William Bryan
Mother of Joan Baynton; Margaret Echyngham; Thomas Etchingham, Sr; Elizabeth Echingham; Richard Echingham and 1 other
Sister of Sir John FitzAlan, 2nd Baron Arundel, 2nd Baron Maltravers; Richard FitzAlan d'Arundel, Knt.; William FitzAlan; Margaret FitzAlan, Baroness de Ros and Henry Fitzalan
Half sister of Sir Reynold de Cobham, 3rd Baron Cobham

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About Joan Etchingham

Last Edited=30 Mar 2008

    Joan Fitzalan was the daughter of John Fitzalan and Eleanor Maltravers.2 She married Sir William de Bryan, son of Sir Guy de Bryan, 1st and last Lord Bryan and Elizabeth Montagu.1 She died after 1395.1
    Her married name became de Bryan.1


[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 362. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

[S2715] Charlotte Smith, "re: Bryan Family," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Darryl Roger Lundy, 6 March 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Bryan Family".

---------------------------------------------- FITZALAN2


Died: 1 Sep 1404/1407

Father: John FITZALAN (1° B. Maltravers)

Mother: Eleanor MALTRAVERS (B. Maltravers/B. Cobham)

Married 1: William De BRYAN (Sir)


1. Thomas BRYAN (Sir)

Married 2: William De ECHYNGHAM


2. Thomas De ECHYNGHAM

3. Elizabeth De ECHYNGHAM (m. Thomas Hoo, 1° B. Hoo),_1st_Baron_Arundel


On 17 February 1358, John was married to Lady Eleanor Maltravers (Mautravers) (1345 – 10 January 1404/1406), daughter of John Maltravers and Gwenthin. They had at least five children (some references list more):

Joan FitzAlan (D' Arundel) (c. 1360 – 1 September 1404. She married first Sir William de Etchingham and secondly William de Brien.

John FitzAlan, 2nd Baron Arundel (3 November 1364 – 14 August 1390), who married Elizabeth le Despenser.

Richard FitzAlan (c. 1366 – 3 June 1419).

William Arundel (c. 1369 – 1400. He was a Knight of the Garter.

Henry Fitzlangley (c. 1369 – 1428), who married Alice Lnu.


Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Kaleen E Pg.69

34. Eleanor Maltravers, b. 1345, d. 10 Jan. 1405/6; m. Sir John D'Arundel, 1st Lord Arundel, d.1379, Marshall of England.

35. Joan D'Arundel, d. 1 Sept. 1404; m.1st William de Brien; m.2nd about 1401, Sir William de Echyngham of Echyngham, Sussex, d. 20 Mar. 1412/13.

36. Sir Thomas de Echyngham, lord of Echyngham, Sussex, b. abt. 1401 d. 15 Oct. 1444; m. 1415-1424 Margaret Knyvet, liv. 1467, dau. of John Knyvet, Sr.. and wife Joan of Norfolk, widow of Sir Robert de Tye of Barsham ds.p. 1415.


The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta, 1215 ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, William Ryland Beall Pg.106

8. Eleanor Maltravers, Lady Maltravers, b. c. 1345, ae. 19 in 1364, d. 10 Jan. 1405/6; m. (1) 17 Feb. 1358/9, Sir John d'Arundel, son of Richard Fitz Alan of Arundel.

9. Joan Fitz Alan, of Arundel, d. 1 Sept 1404; m. (1) Sir William de Brien; m. (2) c. 1401, Sir William de Echyngham of Echyngham, co. Suffolk, d. 20 Mar 1412/13.

10. Sir Thomas de Echyngham, of Echyngham, d. 1444; m. (2) Margaret, dau. of John Knyvet, Sr and wife Joan of Norfolk, wid. of Sir Robert de Tye of Barsham, d.s.p. 1415.


Notes and queries for Somerset and Dorset ..., Volumes 7-8 Pg.290


The Topographer and Genealogist By John Gough Nichols Pg. 254


We are indebted to Wendy (Gwendolyn Jean Edmands) Pearson for research in this line.

See My Lines ( from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

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Joan FitzAlan, who married firstly Sir William de Bryan, and secondly, Sir William Echingham. She is buried in the chancel of Etchingham Church. She probably died in childbirth, as her daughter was born the year she died. Her mother died a year later.

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Joan Etchingham's Timeline

June 1, 1358
Buckinghamshire, England
June 1, 1358
Cheddington, Buckinghamshire, England
Sussex, England
Age 31
Etchingham, East Sussex, England
Age 34
Echingham, Sussex, England
September 1, 1404
Age 38
Cheddington, Buckinghamshire, England
Age 38
Rother District, East Sussex, UK
Age 38