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John Norcross

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Gisburn, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Death: August 04, 1961 (84)
Stockton, San Joaquin County, California, United States
Place of Burial: 2350 Cemetery Ln, Stockton, San Joaquin County, California, 95204, United States
Immediate Family:

Son of Thomas Norcross and Alice Elizabeth Norcross
Husband of Lydia Norcross
Father of Private; Harold Norcross; Nellie Norcross and Ethel Lisk
Brother of David Norcross; Margaret Hartley; Elizabeth Gardner; Richard Norcross; Tom Norcross and 7 others

Occupation: Machine Operator in the Auto Industry.
Managed by: Private User
Last Updated:
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Immediate Family

About John Norcross

	  Did NOT sail with Lydia and family to US in 1910. 

============================== 1915 RI Census Name: John Norcross Residence: Pawtucket Ward 03, E.D. 184, Providence, Rhode Island Age in years: 35 Estimated birth year: 1880 Birthplace: England Relationship to head-of-household: Self Gender: Male Race: White Father's birthplace: England Mother's birthplace: England Page letter: J Line number: 6 Film number: 1765136 Collection: Rhode Island State Census, 1915

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In the 1930 US Census there is one entry for a John and Lydia Norcross - and the birth year for Lydia is correct:

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Lydia Norcross
Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Spouse's Name: John Home in 1930 Relation to Head of House Household Members Name: Lydia Norcross Spouse: John Birth: abt 1882 Residence: 1930 - city, Wayne, Michigan (this may mean Wayne County where Detroit is located)

There was no entry for the family in the 1920 US Census.

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SSDI has one entry born approximately the right year:
JOHN NORCROSS b.16 Sep 1878 d.Aug 1962 issued.(Virginia) (none specified) 223-42-1820 Virginia

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A John Norcross is listed as "Mine Host" from 1907-1910 at pub in Preston. But note that another John Norcross died in Preston in 1910 - so not conclusive:

http://pubsinpreston.blogspot.com/2012/02/lutwidge-arms-peel-hall-s...

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John Norcross's Timeline

1877
June 25, 1877
Gisburn, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom

https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=BMD/B/1877/3/AZ/000394/204

First name(s) JOHN
Last name NORCROSS
Birth year 1877
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Kenyon
District Clitheroe
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 307
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

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Note (via Wikipedia): "Historically Gisburn was part of the West Riding of Yorkshire, within the Deanery of Craven, and Wapentake of Staincliffe."

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WW II Draft Registration Records:

Name: John Norcross
Event: Military
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan
Residence: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1877
Film Number: 1708595
Digital Folder Number: 4673183
Image Number: 05292

An immigration record om Ancestry.com also from 1942, includes the same date, and city directories for Dearborn indicate This was the only John Norcross listed at the time (still at same address as 1930 Census)..
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1925 Rhode Island Census:
Name: John Norcross
Residence: Pawtucket Ward 02, E.D. 147, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 47
Estimated birth date: 1878
Place of Birth: England
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Gender: Male
Race: White
Page number: 7
Line number: 10
GSU Film Number: 1769845
Family Number: 53
Collection: Rhode Island State Census, 1925

1915 Rhode Island census
Name: John Norcross
Residence: Pawtucket Ward 03, E.D. 184, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Date: 1880
Place of Birth: England
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Gender: Male
Race: White
Place of Birth: Father: England
Place of Birth: Mother: England
Page Number: J
Line Number: 6
GSU Film Number: 1765136
Collection: Rhode Island State Census, 1915


GEnesReunited Census search shows the birthplace of John Norcross livingin Preston in 1881, 1891, 1901 as Gisburn, Yorkshire.

"1891 census transcription details for 18 Chester Road, Preston National Archive Reference RG number RG12, Piece 3433, Folio 10, Page 14, John Norcross is listed as 'Son (of Thomas and Alice) Male, 13 years, Cotton Weaver, born Gisburn Yorshire' "

No clear household members from the limited view.
using spreadsheet sorting, ID'd likely sibs, found 2 in LancashireBMD with same mother's Maiden Name: KENYON
List of all Lancashire NORCROSS births in that time period with mother KENYON then included JOHN born 1877:

1889 NORCROSS Frederick Trinity Preston KENYON TR/30/48
1887 NORCROSS Phoebe Alston Preston KENYON ALST/17/29
1885 NORCROSS Amelia Alston Preston KENYON ALST/16/48
1883 NORCROSS Mary Ann Alston Preston KENYON ALST/15/94
1882 NORCROSS Jane Alice Alston Preston KENYON ALST/15/42
1881 NORCROSS Fred Alston Preston KENYON ALST/14/92
1879 NORCROSS James Thomas Alston Preston KENYON ALST/14/37
1878 NORCROSS Richard Alston Preston KENYON ALST/13/92
1877 NORCROSS John Gisburn Preston KENYON GI/7/92
1876 NORCROSS Thomas Alston Preston KENYON ALST/13/8
1875 NORCROSS Margaret Alston Preston KENYON ALST/12/58

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The only "John" listed on LancashireBMD for 1879-1881 is a Francis John Norcross, who is clearly this FJN who married in 1909
Marriage: 21 Sep 1909 St Wilfrid, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Francis John Norcross - 29 Drawer-in Bachelor of Ribchester
Alice Wilkinson - 38 Spinster of Ribchester

Groom's Father: John Norcross, (deceased), Clogger
Bride's Father: William Wilkinson, Farmer
Witness: James Wilkinson; James Barton; Alice Norcross
Married by Banns by: J. W. Brooker Rector
Register: Marriages 1874 - 1916, Page 110, Entry 219
Source: LDS Film 94021
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1881:

1881 England Census
about John Norcross
Name: John Norcross
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Norcross
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Alice Norcross
Gender: Male
Where born: Gisburn, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Dilworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Lumb Mill
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Alston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4245
Folio: 91
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Norcross 29
Elizabeth Alice Norcross 29
David Kenyon 7
Margaret Norcross 5
Elizabeth Norcross 4
John Norcross 3
Richard Norcross 2
James Thomas Norcross 1
Frederic Norcross

1891

1891 England Census
about John Norcross
Name: John Norcross
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Norcross
Mother's Name: Alice E Norcross
Gender: Male
Where born: Gisburn, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3433
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Norcross 39
Alice E Norcross 40
David K Norcross 17
Margaret Norcross 15
Elizabeth Norcross 14
John Norcross 13
James F Norcross 11
Jane A Norcross 8
Mary Ann Norcross 7
Frederick Norcross 1

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1901 England Census
about John Norcross
Name: John Norcross
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Alice Norcross
Gender: Male
Where born: Gisburn, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 3943
Folio: 16
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Norcross 50
John Norcross 23
James J Norcross 21
Jane A Norcross 18
Mary A Norcross 17
Frederick Norcross 11

1902
1902
- 1908
Age 24
Preston, Lancashire, England (United Kingdom)
1905
January 10, 1905
East Preston, Preston, Lancashire, Lancashire, United Kingdom

Name Harold Norcross
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1905
Registration District Preston
County Lancashire
Event Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Volume 8E
Page 507
Line Number 216
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FFD-V5Z : accessed 17 November 2015), Harold Norcross, 1905; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast ( http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Preston, Lancashire, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

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Birth Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Region Ref
NORCROSS Harold HESKETH 1905 East Preston Preston Lancashire EP/3/97

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Date of birth from CADI & SSDI.

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Possible match outside NY City in 1940 working as a "miner's helper." There are no matches in Rhode Island for another Harold born around 1905.
Person listed above him occupation is listed as miner's helper underground tunnel. another in same house says "miner underground tunnel" and yet another says "mining - tunnel construction"

Name Harold Norcoross
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Ward 5, Newburgh, Newburgh City, Orange, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 35
Marital Status Single
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Lodger
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Birthplace Rhode Island
Birth Year (Estimated) 1905
Residence in 1935 Norwalk, Connecticut
Household Role GenderAge Birthplace
Harold Norcoross Lodger M 35 Rhode Island
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K7M5-NWZ : accessed 17 November 2015), Harold Norcoross in household of Mary Fitzpatrick, Ward 5, Newburgh, Newburgh City, Orange, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 36-89, sheet 9A, family 141, NARA digital publication T627 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012), roll 2710.

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https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=BMD/B/1905/1/AZ/000440/216

First name(s) HAROLD
Last name NORCROSS
Birth year 1905
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Hesketh
District Preston
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 507
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

1908
December 13, 1908
East Preston, Preston, Lancashire, Lancashire, United Kingdom

Birth Indexes
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Region Ref
NORCROSS Nellie HESKETH 1909 East Preston Preston Lancashire EP/12/38

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Name Nellie Norcross
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1909
Registration District Preston
County Lancashire
Event Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Volume 8E
Page 508
Line Number 131

CITING THIS RECORD

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2FK7-L6Q : accessed 21 November 2015), Nellie Norcross, 1909; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast ( http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Preston, Lancashire, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

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https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=BMD/B/1909/1/AZ/000427/131

First name(s) NELLIE
Last name NORCROSS
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Preston
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 508
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

1915
1915
- 1915
Age 37
pawtucket, rhode island, United States
1917
July 8, 1917
Pawtucket, Providence, Rhode Island, United States, Pawtucket, RI, United States

Very poor quality transcription of 1920 Census:

Name Ethel Norcros
Residence , Providence, Rhode Island
Estimated Birth Year 1918
Age 2
Birthplace Rhode Island
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender Female
Race White
Marital Status Single
Father's Birthplace
Mother's Birthplace
Film Number 1821674
Digital Folder Number 4383806
Image Number 00799
Sheet Number 16

Household Gender Age
Parent Jhon Norcros M 38y
Parent Lilia Norcros F 37y
Adda Norcros F 16y
Harel Norcros M 15y
Nally Norcros F 11y

Ethel Norcros F 2y
Albert Hasketh M 25y

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Name Ethel Norcross
Event Place Pawtucket Ward 02, E.D. 147, Providence, Rhode Island
Age 7
Birth Year (Estimated) 1918
Birthplace Rhode Island
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender Female
Race White
Page 7
Citing this Record

"Rhode Island State Census, 1925," database with images, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MV49-1NH : 24 May 2014), Ethel Norcross, Pawtucket Ward 02, E.D. 147, Providence, Rhode Island; citing p. 7, line 15, State Archives, Providence; FHL microfilm 1,769,845.

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.
Rhode Island State Census, 1925
Line Number 15
GS Film number 1769845
Family Number 53

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(per recollection of nephew E. Bury, she married a baseball player and moved to California [where her sister Ada and brother Harry lived])

Possible marriage to follow-up on:
1940 Census: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KHM9-K4B

name: Ethel Florgea
titles & terms:
event: Census
event year: 1940
event place: Tract 835, Dearborn, Dearborn City, Wayne, Michigan, United States
gender: Female
age: 22
marital status: Married
race (original):
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (original):
relationship to head of household (standardized): Wife
birthplace: Rhode Island
estimated birth year: 1918
residence in 1935: Same Place
enumeration district number: 82-31
family number: 92
sheet number and letter: 61A
line number: 3
nara publication number: T627
nara roll number: 1826
digital folder number: 005461711
image number: 00492

Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Daniel Florgea M 26 Ohio
wife Ethel Florgea F 22 Rhode Island

SPOUSE of above:

Name: Daniel Florgea
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Tract 835, Dearborn, Dearborn City, Wayne, Michigan, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Ohio
Birth Year (Estimated): 1914
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Daniel Florgea Head M 26 Ohio
Ethel Florgea Wife F 22 Rhode Island
District: 82-31 , Family Number: 92 , Sheet Number and Letter: 61A , Line Number: 2 , Affiliate Publication Number: T627 , Affiliate Film Number: 1826 , Digital Folder Number: 005461711 , Image Number: 00492

Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KHM9-K4Y : accessed 17 Jul 2014), Daniel Florgea, Tract 835, Dearborn, Dearborn City, Wayne, Michigan, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 82-31, sheet 61A, family 92, NARA digital publication of T627, roll 1826.

( aka Ethel HORGEA and Daniel HORGEA based on scan)

Daniel listed as a Stenographer in a Steel Mill on 1940 Census - 1935 location for both listed as "Same Place"

Death of Daniel:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=88693729

Daniel Horgea

Birth: Sep. 12, 1913
Death: Mar. 31, 1998
Inscription:
US NAVY WORLD WAR II

Burial:
Saint Hedwig Cemetery
Dearborn Heights
Wayne County
Michigan, USA

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Regardless if it was the right Ethel, marriage to Daniel Horgea ended in Divorce prior to 1952:

Michigan, Divorce Records, 1897-1952 Marriage & Divorce
Name: Daniel Horgea
Spouse: Ethel Horgea
Marriage: date - location
Divorce: date - Wayne

1961
August 4, 1961
Age 84
Stockton, San Joaquin County, California, United States

Name: John Norcross
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 04 Aug 1961
Event Place: San Joaquin, California, United States
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1877
Birthplace: England
Gender: Male
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:

"California, Death Index, 1940-1997," index, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VP4M-T3L : accessed 24 Apr 2013), John Norcross, 1961

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Name John Norcross
Event Type Death
Event Date 04 Aug 1961
Event Place Stockton, San Joaquin, California, United States
Gender Male
Age 84
Birth Year (Estimated) 1877
Father's Name Norcross
Mother's Name Unknown Unknown
Spouse's Name Lydia Norcross
Spouse's Gender Female
Citing this Record

"California, County Birth and Death Records, 1800-1994," database with images, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV37-C9QJ : accessed 16 November 2015), John Norcross, 04 Aug 1961; citing Death, Stockton, San Joaquin, California, United States, county courthouses, California; FHL microfilm 1,851,510.

[from scan - retired laborer from Ford Motor Co.
Address 1912 W. Sonoma St, Stockton ]

August 7, 1961
Age 84
Rural Cemetery, 2350 Cemetery Ln, Stockton, San Joaquin County, California, 95204, United States