Eleanor ‘Elizabeth’ Savage

Biography

Elenor Savage was the daughter of Sir William Brereton, and his wife, Angella Venables. Her name is seen in ‘Savage of the Ards’ as Elizabeth.

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Eleanor was born prior to 12th day before Kalends of August, 1405, [which was 21 July] because her father was married to his second wife by then [on that day at St Peter's, Rome, William de Brereton, knight, nobleman, and Ellen (Elena) his wife, noblewoman, of the diocese of Lincoln, were issued an indult De Plenaria Remissione, that is that the confessor of their choice may grant them, being penitent, plenary remission, once only, namely in the article of death.[2] An indult is a licence granted by the Pope authorizing an act that the common law of the Church does not sanction.]

Family

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Savage-23

Elenor married John Savage of Clifton, the son of Sir John Savage and his wife, Maud, daughter and heir of Robert Swinerton, before 1423.

According to Douglas Richardson, they had three children:

1. John, K.G.
2. Margery, married (1) Edmund Legh, (2) Thomas Leycester
3. Margaret

Source: Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study In Colonial And Medieval Families, 2nd Edition .…. Page 141. < GoogleBooks >

Other sources have additional children listed:

SIR JOHN SAVAGE, of Clifton, Knt., who married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William Brereton, of Brereton, Knt.,2 and by her had issue,

• I. JOHN, Knt., of whom presently as successor to his father in the Lordship of Clifton.
• I. Eleanor, married to Sir Piers Leigh, of Lyme, Knt.
• II. Elizabeth, married to John Leake, of Sutton, Co. Derby.
• III. Helein, married to Peter Warberton, of Arley, Esq.
• IV. Ann, married to Sir Roger Pilkington, Knt.
• V. Margaret, married to Sir Edward Trafford, of Trafford, Knt.
• VI. Katherine, married to Thomas Leigh, of Adlington, Esq.

Source: Compiled from Historical Documents and Family Papers and edited by George Francis Savage-Armstong, “The Ancient and Noble Family of the Savages of the Ards.” London, 1888, Marcus Ward & Co., page 20 < GoogleBooks >

Children listed in Boyer's The Medieval Ancestors of Robert Abell , pgs. 214 with a reference to Omerod's History of Cheshire:

1. John Savage, son and heir, married Katherine Stanley
2. Margaret Savage, married 1st, John Maxfield, married 2nd, perhaps, Randle Mainwaring of Carincham, third son of Randle Mainwaring of Over Poever [note says that second marriage needs proof and the Visitation of Cheshire in 1580 (pg. 203-204) gives her as the wife Sir William Stanley of Hooton]
3. Jane Savage, married John Hanford

Source: (Boyer's The Medieval Ancestors of Robert Abell places her as the daughter of the following John Savage and Katherine Stanley, who is given as her brother here, pg 215)

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• Eleanor Brereton1,2,3,4
• F, #19969, b. circa 1388
• Father Sir William Brereton2,3,4 b. c 1363, d. 1425
• Mother Anyll Venables2,3,4
• Eleanor Brereton was born circa 1388 at of Brereton & Egerton, Cheshire, England.5 She married Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Chamberlain of Middlewich, son of Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Constable of Halton Castle, Chamberlain of Middlewich and Maud Swynnerton, before 1423; They had 1 son (Sir John) and 2 daughters (Margery, wife of Edmund Legh, & of Thomas Leycester; & Margaret).2,3,4
• Family Sir John Savage, Bailiff of the Forest of Macclesfield, Chamberlain of Middlewich b. bt 1401 - 1410, d. 29 Jun 1463
• Children
  • Margaret Savage+2
  • Margery Savage+2
  • Sir John Savage, Mayor of Chester, Chamberlain of Middlewich+2,3,4 b. c 1423, d. 22 Nov 1495
• Citations
• 1.[S6166] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 111; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 30; Magna Charta by Wurts, p. 1005.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 638.
• 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 491.
• 4.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 554.
• 5.[S10297] Unknown author, History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, by George Omerod, 1819., p. 51.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p665.htm#i...

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• John SAVAGE (Sir)
• Born: ABT 1410
• Died: 29 Jun 1463
• Father: John SAVAGE (Sir)
• Mother: Maud De SWYNNERTON
• Married: Eleanor BRERETON (dau. of William Brereton and Angela Venables)
• Children:
  • 1. John SAVAGE (Sir Knight)
  • 2. Alice SAVAGE
  • 3. Ellen SAVAGE
  • 4. Margaret SAVAGE
  • 5. Margery SAVAGE
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/SAVAGE.htm#John SAVAGE (Sir)4 __________________________
• Breretons of Cheshire, 1100 to 1904 A. D (1904)
• https://archive.org/details/breretonsofchesh00brer
• https://archive.org/stream/breretonsofchesh00brer#page/71/mode/1up
• Sir Willam de Brerton VII., ninth Lord of Brereton, was born in 1350, died in 1426. His first wife was Anyll, daughter of Sir Hugh de Venables, Baron of Kinderton. By her he had six sons and two daughters: 1, Willam; 2, Nicholas; 3, Hugh; 4, Matthew ; 5, John ; 6, Henry ; 7, Elizabeth, wife of Sir John Savage ; 8, Margery, wife of Richard Putten Wanflete, of Wanflete. His second wife was Ellen, daughter of Sir William Masey, of Tatton. By her he had one son, Thomas, born in 1433 ; rector of Brereton ; heir to his mother of the Tatton estates.
• William de Brerton, eldest son, died in 1420, at Harfleur, France, during his father's lifetime. He married Alice, sister and heiress of Richard de Corbet, of Leghton, in the barony of Caius, Shropshire. By her he had two sons and two daughters : 1, William; 2, Ralph; 3, Alice, wife of Peter Corbet, of Leghton; 4. Joan, wife of Robert Aston, of Park Hall, Staffordshire. _______________________
• A genealogical history of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited, and extinct peerages of the British empire (1978)
• https://archive.org/details/agenealogicalhi00burkgoog
• https://archive.org/stream/agenealogicalhi00burkgoog#page/n94/mode/1up
• Pg.74
  • BRERETON--BARON BRERETON.
• RALPH DE BRERETON (son of William de Brereton, and grandson of William de Brereton,) was father (besides a 2nd son, Gilbert, and a dau., Isolda, wife of Gilbert de Stoke,) of an elder son and heir.
• SIR WILLIAM BRERETON, of Brereton, Knt, living temp. JOHN and HENRY III., who m. Margery, dau. of Randle de Thornton, and had a son, RALPH, and a dau., wife of Thurstan de Smethwick. The former
• SIR RALPH BRERETON, of Brereton, Knt, had two sons, WILLIAM (SIR), and Gilbert, father of Henry and Sibella, wife of William de Bouths. The elder son,
• SIR WILLIAM BRERETON, of Brereton, Knt., m. the dau. of his guardian. Sir Richard de Sandbach, Knt., and was father of
• SIR WILLIAM BRERETON, of Brereton, Knt., who m. Roesia, dau. of Ralph de Vernon, and had issue,
  • I. WILLIAM, m. Margery, dau. of Richard de Bosley, and d. in his father's lifetime, leaving issue,
    • 1. WILLIAM (SIR), of whom presently.
    • 2 John. .... etc.
  • II. John, in holy orders. .... etc.
• Sir William was s. by his grandson,
• SIR WILLIAM BRERETON, of Brereton, living 49th EDWARD III., who m. 1st, Ellen, dau. of Philip, and sister and finally heiress of David Egerton, of Egerton, and by her had a son and successor,
  • WILLIAM.
• He m. 2ndly, Margaret, dau. of --- Done, of Utkinton, and widow of John Davenport, and by her had a son and two daus., ..... etc.
• The eldest son,
• SIR WILLIAM BRERETON, of Brereton, m. 1st, in 1386, Angella, dau. of Hugh Venables, and by her had issue,
  • I. WILLIAM, d. before his father, having m. Alice, sister and heiress of Richard Corbett, of Leighton, and by her (who m. 2ndly, John Stretley, Esq.,) had issue, .... etc.
  • II. Hugh.
  • III. Matthew.
  • I. Elizabeth, wife of Sir John Savage.
  • II. Margery, wife of Richard Patten, alias Wanflet, of Wanflet.
• Sir William m. 2ndly, Elena, dau. of Sir William Massy, of Tatton, Knt., and by her, who m. 2ndly Sir Gilbert Halsall, Knt., had a son,
  • Thomas, in holy orders, rector of Brereton, 1433.
• Sir William d. 4th HENRY VI., and was s. by his grandson. .... etc. _________________________
• The history of the county palatine and city of Chester: .... Vol. III.
• https://archive.org/details/historyofcountyp03orme
• https://archive.org/stream/historyofcountyp03orme#page/51/mode/1up
  • BRERETON AND HOLT OF BRERETON. Pg.51-52 _________________________
• Remains, Historical and Literary, Connected with the Palatine ..., Volume 97
• http://books.google.com/books?id=cfoMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq...
• Pg.175
• Sir John Savage married Maud, daughter and heiress of Sir R. Swimmerton of Magna Barrow, in Cheshire. He was succeeded by his son, John Savage, who married Eleanor, daughter and heiress of Sir William Brereton. He died in 1463, and was succeeded by his son Sir John Savage, who married Catherine, daughter and heiress of Sir Thomas Stanley, and sister .... ______________________________
• 'Brereton01'
• William de Brereton, Cheshire
  • 1. William de Brereton
    • A. Ralph de Brereton
      • i. Sir William Brereton of Brereton (a 1216)
      • m. Margery de Thornton (dau of Randle de Thornton)
        • a. Sir Ralph Brereton of Brereton
          • (1) Sir William Brereton of Brereton
          • m. Margaret (?) de Sandbach (dau of Sir Richard de Sandbach)
            • (A) Sir William Brereton of Brereton
            • m. Roesia de Vernon (dau of Ralph de Vernon of Shipbroke)
              • (i) William Brereton (dvp)
              • m. Margery Bosley (dau of Richard de Bosley)
                • (a) Sir William Brereton of Brereton (a 1376)
                • m1. Ellen Egerton (dau of Philip Egerton (of Malpas))
                  • ((1)) Sir William Brereton of Brereton (b 14.02.1349, d 10.1.1426)
                  • m1. (1386) Angella or Anilla or Emily Venables (dau of Hugh Venables)
                    • ((A)) William Brereton (dvp)
                    • m. Alice Corbett (sister of Richard Corbett of Leighton)
                    • .... etc.
                    • ((B)) Elizabeth Brereton
                    • m. Sir John Savage
                    • ((C)) Margery Brereton
                    • m. Richard Paten, later Wanflet of Wanflet
                    • ((D))+ other issue - Hugh, Matthew
                  • ((2))+ .... etc.
• Main sources: BE1883 (Brereton)
• From: Stirnet.com
• http://www.stirnet.com/genie/data/british/bb4fz/brereton01.php
• _______________________
• Links
• http://www.brereton.org/Cheshire%20January%202013.pdf - SOME DATES ARE NOT CORRECT IN THIS LISTING & CONNECTIONS VERY CONFUSING

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       Elizabeth Brereton:

Birth:

       1406 in Brereton, Cheshire, England

Death:

        in Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Relatives:

       William Brereton (Father)

       and

       Angella Venables (Mother). 

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ID: I116115

Name: Catherine [@] de Stanley

Sex: F

Birth: 1430 in Stanley, Derbyshire,England

Death: 1498 in Clifton, Cheshire, England

Father: Lord Thomas [@ <] de Stanley b: 1406 in Latham, Lancashire, England

Mother: Jane\Joan [@ <] de Goushill b: 1409 in Hoveringham, Nottinghampshire, England

Marriage 1 John [IV @] de Savage b: 1422 in Clifton, Cheshire, England

Married: BEF 1447 in Clinton, Cheshire, England

Children

Ellen Savage b: ABT 1430

Eleanor [@] Savage b: 1447 in Prob Clifton, Cheshire, England
Lawrence [@] Savage b: 1449 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Margaret [@] Savage b: 1450 in Clinton, Cheshire, England
James [@] Savage b: 1451 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
John [V @] de Savage b: 1452 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Dau [@] Savage b: 1453 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Elizabeth [@] Savage b: 1454 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Alice [@] de Savage b: 1457 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Katherine [@] Savage b: 1458 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Thomas [@] Savage b: 1463 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Humphrey [@] Savage b: 1465 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Richard [@] Savage b: 1467 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
William [@] Savage b: 1468 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
George [@] Savage b: 1471 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Sir Christopher [Sr @] Savage b: 1473 in Clifton, Rock Sabage, Cheshire, England
Edward [@] Savage b: 1475 in Clifton, Cheshire, England
Margaret [@] Savage b: 1485
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ID: I171564

Name: Eleanor or Elizabeth [@] de Brereton

Sex: F

Birth: ABT 1406 in England

Death: ABT 22 NOV 1495 in England

~Weis' The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 98A-10, Sir John Savage of Clifton married Elizabeth or Eleanor, daughter of Sir William de Brereton. 348

~The Ancient and Noble Family of Savage, p. 20, Sir John Savage married to Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William Brereton, of Brereton, Knight. 718

~The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, p. 203, Sir John Savage was married to Elenor, daughter of Sir William Breton 526

~Ormerod's History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, Vol. III, p.88, "Brereton and Holt of Brereton Pedigree," Elizabeth de Brerton, married to Sir John Savage, son of John Savage and Matilda Synnerton

Father: William [@ <^] de Brereton b: BEF 1381 in Egerton, Cheshire, England

Mother: Angella Amelia [@ <^] de Venables b: BET 1374 AND 1386 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England

Marriage 1 Sir John [III @] de Savage b: 1403 in Clifton, Cheshire, England

Children

John [IV @] de Savage b: 1422 in Clifton, Cheshire, England

Margaret [@] de Savage b: ABT 1425 in Clifton, Cheshire, England

www.findagrave.com

Lady Elizabeth Eleanor De Brereton Savage
BIRTH 1 Nov 1406
Brereton, Cheshire East Unitary Authority, Cheshire, England
DEATH 1446 (aged 39–40)
Runcorn, Halton Unitary Authority, Cheshire, England
BURIAL
St. Michael's & All Angels Churchyard
Macclesfield, Cheshire East Unitary Authority, Cheshire, England
MEMORIAL ID 142265862

Pedigree

Stirnet - 'Brereton01'

• ((1)) Sir William Brereton of Brereton (b 14.02.1349, d 10.1.1426) m1. (1386) Angella or Anilla or Emily Venables (dau of Hugh Venables)
  • ((A)) William Brereton (dvp) m. Alice Corbett (sister of Richard Corbett of Leighton)
  • ((B)) Elizabeth Brereton m. Sir John Savage
  • ((C)) Margery Brereton m. Richard Patten, later Wanflet of Wanflet
  • ((D))+ other issue - Hugh, Matthew

Family

Stirnet - 'Savage02'

• 1. Sir John Savage of Clifton (d 01.08.1450) m. (before 1409) Maud Swinnerton (dau/heir of Sir Robert Swinnerton of Barrow, Rushton & Austenfield)
  • A. John Savage of Clifton and Stainesby m. Elizabeth (or Elenor) Brereton (dau of Sir William Brereton of Brereton) named Elizabeth by Armstrong, Elenor by Visitation, not named by Ormerod/BE1883
    • i. Sir John Savage of Clifton (b c1422, d 22.11.1495) m. Catherine Stanley (dau of Thomas Stanley, 1st Lord, sister of Thomas, 1st Earl of Derby)
    • ii. Eleanor Savage see Note D below m. (1467) Sir Piers Leigh of Lyme
    • iii. Elizabeth Savage m. John Leake, see Note D below, shown a generation later
    • iv. Helen Savage see Note D below, shown by Visitation a generation earlier m. Peter Warberton of Arley (d c1495)
    • v. Ann Savage see Note D below & Note C above, Ormerod, BE1883 & Visitation show an Alice (m. Roger Pilkington) a generation later m. Sir Roger Pilkington
    • vi. Margeret (or Jane?) Savage See Note D below and the note above for the Margaret shown as a generation later. We suspect that this may be the Jane, mentioned only by Visitation as m. John Hanford, whose husband was in fact ... m. William Honford of Honford (d 09.1513)
    • vii. Katherine Savage m. Thomas Leigh of Adlington, see Note D below, shown a generation later
    • viii. Margery Savage see Note D below, probably one of the 'Marrgetts' shown a generation later by Visitation m1. Edmund Leigh of Baggeley (d c1475) m2. (1477) Thomas Leycester of Nether Tabley

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References

• Reference: MyHeritage Family Trees - SmartCopy: Apr 6 2017, 3:21:56 UTC
• https://cybergata.com/roots/739.htm cites
• Weis' The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 98A-10, Sir John Savage of Clifton m. Elizabeth or Eleanor, daughter of Sir William de Brereton. 348
• ~The Ancient and Noble Family of Savage, p. 20, married to Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William Brereton, of Brereton, Knight. 718
• ~The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, pp. 203, married to Elenor, daughter of Sir william Breton 526
• ~Ormerod's History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, vol. I, p. 713 John Savage, of Clifton, esquire, son and heir of Sir John, married__________* and had issue: John Savage son and heir; Margery, a daughter married to Edmund Legh of Baggiley in Cheshire who died and she married Thomas Lycester of Nether Tabley; Margaret, another daughter married John Maxfeld, and afterward she married Randle Manwaring of Carincham, the third son of Randle Manwaring of Over Peover.
• https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~hwbradley/genealogy/aqwg628.htm#10517 cites

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